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Atlas really needs the option to choose the biome of the random map the designer is generating. Mainland random map, for instance, has no option to choose a different biome. It always generates an Alpine biome map. There is no drop menu, as in game setup, to choose the biome it ill generate.

I believe that certain units should have their own statistics, which represent more what they were, in their time. like for example, the cataphracts that were heavily armored = less speed + stamina and a little more damage ... also the briton longswords that have the same stats as the other champions that use sword and shield -.- the elephants should have a small area attack not only frontal attack so that little by little it will be more important to choose each civ, for each phase and that the play styles will be more different per civ and player.

Elephants are now the only counter to siege towers, which would be riddicously OP if they were faster. I am against turning 0ad in a tank battles game.

"Solved" is probably impossible, this is true. But a reduction of harm is demonstrably a positive step forward. I was not aware that there were other lobby moderators aside user1, I thank you for the information. One thing that helps a lot was the integration of the lobby-to-discord bot implemented by Hannibal Barca, that is how I have been able to easily see some especially egregious activity in the lobby, through my 0ad Discord server, I subsequently reported the user, and action was taken. I have generally stayed away from these kinds of controversial topics in the forum due to my social anxieties, but I have decided that it is important to spread the load among more people to reduce the negative effects of negativity and toxicity. Having more people responsible for absorbing and rectifying the negative activity will improve the mental health of everyone involved, as they will not have to be exposed to as much of it alone. I'm trying not to be upset about this comment, but I can't help but read things into it that might not even be there. When I read "will likely never be solved" my mind extends that to "so it's useless to try to make it better". That's not what you are implying, right? I thank you for your contribution, and apologise for picking it apart, I just want to more fully understand your perspective. I feel like my response here is an ego-driven defense mechanism, but I decided to post it anyway in order to process my reaction, so that I can learn to more effectively and objectively communicate my perspective, and so that others can learn from it also.

Therein I would say is the biggest problem. It should be viable to escort siege weapons.

I have a revision for this: D3968. I would like to try and merge it before A25 (btw @nani you might have input on this?) However, it will likely rely on trust.

this tower had melee attack. Here the Cataphracts.

I just want to see what additional thing is missing.

And check this.

He gave them incompetent siege. in DE even archers do a better job than the bolt shooters. Their siege towers are a joke in DE. I took out a fortress with a few spearmen but 5 bolt shooters and 3 siege towers cannot make a dent in anything.

Speaking of siege rams, one of the things that bothers me the most is the extreme discrepancy between melee and spears to counter. I mean, I get it they can have some different efficacy, but shouldn't be as extreme. This really is a turn off for immersion. Maybe this is going to be already patched in a25 tho, i'm not in the loop. Besides, I think rams are already tanky enough and I wouldn't favour to buff them even more. Instead, maybe is possible to tweak a little bit the state of elephants so they're not so OP as rn

Any thoughts on returning splash damage to catapults? I liked this mechanic in a23, but it was sometimes frustrating, it could do more damage to a smaller number of units, perhaps limiting cap on the net damage each shot can do? I think we should be careful to limit tech proliferation. A feature is broken? lets just make it an expensive tech! I think this is a solution sometimes, but we can't let it become a lazy way to "balance" something.

The game lacks many technologies for specific classes and units.

When I made the title of this tread, I purposely made it bi-ambiguous. It could mean ¨What would happen if pikemen had their attack rate halved?¨ and then the video would be the answer: They would still be excellent target dummies and that is the problem with the meta. It was not meant to be a serious question of ¨What do you think about if pikemen had their attack rate halved?¨. I just wanted to say that their current gameplay role seems ludicrous to me. I think the art team makes the models based on history. As a community I think we could all help out by shaping the balance such that the units serve a historically accurate role. If people want target dummies, they probably need to give that role to a unit with a big shield. Also I feel like the game should be shaped such that being a target dummy is not a thing. The problem does not lie with the art team, it lies with the people that decided pikemen needed to have huge armor stats.

If you want the json formatted for a specific tool I'd say make it a mod, unless there is just one such tool or one which basically defines a standard. Otherwise the json should be what makes most sense for 0ad. That format could also be used as a replacement for the current ini-style hotkey configuration which might be desirable anyway, so you can map a user facing string to the key value pair for instance. Then a script to convert it to different tools could be added.

Siege towers can also be countered by rams, catapults and melee troops, especially cavalry. But of course they must not get a speed bonus.

Also you can look at this

shouldn't C be "quit and view summary" instead?

It's not about the weight of a sword, light infantry is understood to have been more mobile than havy infantry in general. My biggest problem with @BreakfastBurrito_007's idea, however, is about gameplay: slowing down archers would kill their defining tactics, which are hit and run and archer rushes. Those are what make archers so fun to play, and if we slow them down they will be heavily crippled. What BB wants is to reduce their effective range around defensive positions, and that can be achieved in many ways, not only lowering archers speed. I think reducing archers damage at higher distances - either by raising arrows spread (already in SVN I believe), or enforcing a fixed damage dependent on distance - is the best way out of this bog, it would not change archers identity, but would make them just enough less effective in what they do best. It doesn't have any creepy eco implication, and it doesn't push us back in this endless swing where every alpha we reconsider the choices made in the last releases. Light infantry speeds were made equal for good reasons. And no, archers are not faster than slingers or javeliners, they have the same stats.

To be fair, there are other moderators in the lobby. Though not sure how active they are or what timezones they live in so it can happen that even if there will be more moderators, its not guaranteed 24 h moderation so the issue will likely not be solved anyway.

As others have explained, filter lists are not able to take context into account, leading to false positives. The solution is to have more active moderation, which means more volunteers are needed. These volunteers also need to prove that they are capable of performing their moderation duties appropriately without being too heavy-handed. It is a difficult conundrum, because it might be that there is no clear way for volunteers to prove that they will not over-moderate the community. The FOSS community sometimes tends to lean too heavily on "free-speech", without recognising the fact that responsible community moderation can increase the net-total of freedom of expression by limiting the ability of nefarious actors to use their speech to discourage minorities from having a voice. The main solution that other games have implemented is a crowdsourced one, with easy and visible tools for reporting harmful content. As far as I understand it, the only lobby moderator is user1. This person is not able to moderate in their sleep, so having at least one other moderator in the lobby would be a positive thing. This extra moderator should probably be someone who is not also a programmer, time should not be taken away from programming and given to moderation because the amount of programmers is limited. But the amount of people who are capable of responsible community moderation is much greater. The problem now comes back to choosing which people are capable of performing these moderation duties without over-moderating. I would have said that sil-vous-plait was someone who was capable of performing this moderation, until this passive aggressive and somewhat arrogant post. "spell out" reads to me as patronising. I think that maybe this person was just frustrated, and I do not want to discourage them by pointing this out. I've felt the same frustration that they have, so I cannot really give blame to them for acting on this frustration. The best guidelines that I know of in regards to enforcement are included in the Open Source Contributor Covenant https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/2/0/code_of_conduct/ Anyone who wants to put their name forward as a volunteer moderator should look to this covenant as a guide to how to perform moderation duties. And here is the point where I will put my hand up and say that I am willing to volunteer for this position, I can not say that I will be able to give a large amount of time to this duty, and I would say that at least one more person should also be given this responsibility. I also want to point out that I would not be offended if people decided that I am not suitable for this position. I hope that everyone will have good days.

I can't actually argue against switching elephant attack damage from hack to pierce. I think that's an indictment of how arbitrary EA's damage types are, more than anything else. More importantly though, I argue that this issue is merely symptomatic of the deeper problem that we've been discussing elsewhere: you guessed it... ranged vs melee balance and static defense vs unit balance. Elephants would have a harder time killing rams if those rams were actually escorted by meat shield to their target. However, no one escorts their rams because there is no unit type with sufficient arrow resistance to dive against static defense and ranged fire support.

Yes, I discovered 0AD through Homebrew casks, was and still is the one at the top of the list. There is also this YouTuber with a tier list of RTS games, the first one he starts with is 0AD. Best RTS Games of ALL Time! by BeastyqtSC2 (14/Dec/20)

https://github.com/Yekaterina999/0AD-Aristeia-Egyptians-A25-Mod/tree/main Link to Bronze Age Egyptians mod.

To me, auto-explore is fine so long as it's better to scout yourself.

I think the problem is with the elephants. An Indian elephants can defeat 5 champion swordsmen. This means elephants are incredibly cost effective. I think it would be historically inaccurate to do this.

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1868?

Because part of 0 A.D. is "to reduce repeatitive tasks" and good micro would scout better still than an automated function.

Considering the other changes currently under discussion, I think adjustments to elephants and siege engines are premature. You are going to waste a lot of energy if you start designing solutions to problems that may not even exist any more by the time you implement them. (Or worse, you will create whole new sets of problems for yourself with too many degrees of freedom to know for sure what even caused them.) Better to take things slow and apply your work tactically.

Everybody can win from multiple cultures - also in gaming. The art works you guys do, are really impressive!

How about adding Death Damage effect to elephant? Surely fallen elephant would hurt nearby infantry. Make it non friendly fire as well.

It is, but the unit collision and a few other factors make it very rare to properly show up in gameplay. Unlike kamyuks, in which there seems to be enough range for up to three units to stand between, pikemen instead can only reach about the size of a single person standing. A reason for this is that the sarissa is represented as fairly short in game. According to a random google search, the average man in ancient Greece was roughly 1.6 metres tall. The length of the sarissa according to wikipedia was roughly 4-6 metres. Looking at the game, pikes stand at roughly twice the height of a person, making them only 3.2 metres if the information from earlier is correct. That 0.8-2.8m is a rather massive disparity that translates into their range in game being rather lacklustre. If one watches kamayuks fight in Age of Empires II, their range still plays an important role even without formations since it allows for them to attack more frequently without needing to move. In short, make pikes longer and extend the range of pikemen.

You need to update the map using a bunch of scripts See

Test it against Maurya and Persian factions.

I was doing some tests on an app. the proportion of the sickle is larger in the real life.

If the problem is elephant and siege tower then just change those units.

Ptolemies are especially OP because they have amazing eco and can counter archers pretty easily, as seen in mysticjim's last video and Valihrant

"... pikemen needed to have huge armor stats" Yeah its weird , when I first played and didn't knew how to check unit's stats I was adamant that spearmen had better armor than pikemen.

Added a poll

Is this even something that needs to be done? I think exiting and hitting 'continue' like it is now is fine. Is there any GUI-research what is faster, 2x choosing between two very short options or 1x choosing between three longer options? A+B and C+D are different things, so any answer should have two parts. I'd like A to say 'Yes, skip summary'. I think D is fine, if there absolutely has something to be changed.

Here is a replay of my test game with the Thebans against 2 very hard defensive AI. Their towers game my ranged units a big pain but it was good to see them using elephants instead of just sitting duck. There were some nub moves because I wasn't very familiar with this civ (an excuse ), but everything was smooth after I figured out how to deploy each unit. 2021-05-17_0001.zip

Because if the Macedonians capture such an arsenal they have the correct tooltip. (@Nescio) Not implemented (anymore?) in vanilla, but useful for mods.

https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87268

Completely delete everything when you uninstall it. Sometimes corrupted files might be left behind. If nothing works then you can try building from source.

I think copyright

My two cents: Forest groves all the way. Combined with health variants there are just so much more possibilities and the need the build a new storehouse every minute to avoid transportation time is gone.

I disagree somewhat. I think the correct solution is to have impassable undergrowth entities, that are much bigger but still gatherable (though generating less wood). A wild forest isn't impassable because of the trees. Alternatively, having more low-trees that block movement naturally would also work.

The dude has a forum account... ban that as well pls

Thanks, i am not serbian myself actually, i am just done with such people in general, so i dont care against whom it is directed. And i dont want people who just want to play 0 AD and actually belong to the targeted group be discouraged from doing so.

I'm sorry that he said those things mate! I hope you get some justice.