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A little update: Incorporates Morale System. Now all units have morale. In addition, units with zero morale for some time (currently 30s) will turn into Gaia capturable slave. Auto Queue. Now a structure can be set to auto-queue to loop through available unit production queue as long as resources and population available. Farm reseed. Fields are now have finite grain amount. Fields also only gatherable by one unit, and will automatically rebuilt if the grain supply has been depleted. I'm probably going to freeze the mod development for a while, perhaps will continue once Alpha 25 has been released. But meanwhile your suggestions and critical reviews are always welcome.

Here you go guys Yekaterina Mod consists of everything you have proposed: 1. Everything said by @Thorfinn the Shallow Minded 2. Changes to Roman camps according to reza-math and @nani 3. Soliferreum champion units for Iberians as suggested by @soloooy0 4. African Veteran units for Carthaginians and Carthaginian heros can train units. yekaterinaMod.zip Just unzip and install. It is called YekaterinaMod. Tell me which part you like and which part you don't, also report any bugs please. Sorry for the delay I fell asleep while reading the forum @Lion.Kanzen

The files in question you need to add to your mod are: gui\common\!!!autociv_patchApplyN.js gui\common\mod~autociv.js gui\gamesetup\NetMessages\GameRegisterStanza~autociv.js Then change all occurrences of "autociv" word for the name of your mod. As for knowing what to change here are some tips to follow so you don't trigger OOS (out of sync): simulation folder: don't change code behaviour or variables that are serialized How to know if a variable is serialized: There exist a function name "Serialize" in the component and that function does something with the variable Doesn't exist a function name "Serialize" in the component, that means all is serialized Templated can't be modified gui folder: you can change anything art folder: you can change anything shaders folder: you can change stuff but most be compatible with the engine maps folder: you can add maps without problems but you can't modify existing maps l10n folder: you can change anything audio folder: you can change anything globalscripts folder: you might be able to change some things, not sure about this one

Building farms around the CC isn't some immutable law of the Universe or something. It's simply based on positive and negative incentives (and the lack thereof), which can be changed.

Atlas really needs the option to choose the biome of the random map the designer is generating. Mainland random map, for instance, has no option to choose a different biome. It always generates an Alpine biome map. There is no drop menu, as in game setup, to choose the biome it ill generate.

The defensive AI needs some work - it's just sitting duck! The AI just builds some lame towers and wait for me to come and destroy it. It doesn't even get enough swords and skirmishers to counter my siege, and sends units one by one into my crowd of spearmen. If you don't use formations, this will happen: Also I don't get how capturing units work. There doesn't seem to be such an option. Here are the replays: 2021-05-16_0005.zip

Macedonia 36 - Battle of the Hydaspes (326 BC) In May 326, the Macedonian king Alexander the Great and his ally, raja Ambhi of Taxila, battled Porus, a raja who had not been able to surrender himself to Alexander. There were heavy rains - the monsoon seems to have started early - and the river Jhelum, already wide in May because of the melting waters of the Himalayas, became very wide. Porus thought he'd have a chance, if only he could win time and keep the river between his own army and that of his enemy. What Alexnader needed was a surprise crossing, and the rain offered sufficient opportunity. Another element of surprise was that the Macedonian officer Coenus had brought the ships (which had been used to cross the Indus) all the way to the Jhelum. During a stormy night, Alexander and his army slipped away from the Jhelum through a hidden valley, out of sight of Porus. At dawn, Alexander crossed the Jhelum, a considerable distance upstream from his initial camp. Unaware of what had happened, and seeing a substantial part of Alexander's army (commanded by Craterus) still on the opposite shore, Porus could not believe the news that the Macedonians had reached the east bank. He sent his son to find out what had happened, but he was killed in action. The fact that it had been raining made it very hard to fight from chariots, a factor that contributed to the defeat of the prince. Alexander proceeded along the river, downstream, towards Porus' army. You, playing as Coenus, are in charge of elite cavalry units, as well as the Dahae horse archers. Alexander's officers advise that our left flank is vulnerably and may need assistance. You are to do anything you can to ensure we are victorious. Alexander and Coenus must survive, and in addition, if too many of our infantry perish, we may have no choice but to put a hold on our Indian expeditions. AI Settings: all AIs should be Sandbox. Reference image I used for the battle is the following: https://www.livius.org/site/assets/files/2552/hydaspes_map1.gif

I am working on new precisely historic helmets for the Zapotecs, besides I intend to create yet another variation in the body texture of the padded armor and a new variation for the shield. In addition I will add the warrior with siege torch and the scout running unit of Delenda est.

@Yekaterina nice work. We need to collect everything in one mod. This will make it easier to test.

I've looked into this aswell when i started. I know how this is done but generally speaking its better to not do it (devs discourage it). It can cause out of sync errors depending on what your mod does. It could also be considered cheating if you have a mod enchancing things that others do not have. Your mod will also not be approved for the ingame mod downloader, reducing the audience you can reach significantly because there are much more offline players than you think. With all that said though, i think you are safe from out of sync errors if the changes are strictly GUI, but im not 100% sure. tip: look for the monkey in @nani's mod. I guess he renamed it. It's mod~autociv.js and !!!autociv_patchApplyN.js

Personally I would like it if <default><Clearance> in simulation/data/pathfinder.xml was bumped up to 1.5 from its current value of 0.8. Right now there are an awful lot of units clipping through each other in melee fights. Increasing the unit separation would make fights more readable, increase the importance of concavity, and would make the range differences of the melee unit types much more apparent and significant.

Yes, ire seems more realistic, or perhaps we can favor the gameplay and the freedom of the player to allow the dock to be done in the middle of the map without water, for me it is not much different from making many fields around the administrative center without respecting whether the area is fertile, if you have a farmstead close by or something. A simple copy and paste of conventions that came from old rts games. And not the 0a.d. he is not a city builder but he values a verisimilitude that in my opinion should be taken into account.

That's just simply wrong? It's very plain to see the CC is representative of the administrative center of a town or city.

Great , i had this idead because it would kinda replicate the phalanx without the use of those useless formations and would allow them to retain worst attack stats then spearmen because more of them could attack at the same time balancing it out.

Both It should be compatible with both but I designed it for A25, git.

PYRO MOD maybe

A25 with these mods has some variety and benefits certain civs early attack tactics in phase 2, and rome recovers the splendor of the roman castrum, used for the fall of Numantia and more sites. thx @Yekaterina for this work rome-camp.zip thorfinn.zip

In the game it is in reverse and it is easier to kill someone with a bow at 60m range.

The first time I read it I was intrigued and built an arsenal I ended up not using; otherwise it doesn't affect gameplay. I'm checking the unit tree more frequently now. But I'm also a passionate nitpicker.

Update workspaces ?

how is it plain to have an administrative center of a "something" without houses, production, anything really, just eight chickens?

Oh no sorry I meant to change it to this way Status Quo: Citizen soldiers good at mining and wood, poor at food Women good at food and ok at wood, poor at mining Proposed change: Citizen soldiers poor with all resource collecting Citizen soldiers good at building Women good at all resource collecting.

I already forgotten Sepultura, but the mention and your remark made me remember one of my favourite albums 20+ years ago

Bactriana (2 players) added. Any ideas for 1 more? Maybe from DE or an area of the "game world" not yet done.

I wanted you to test it against many AIs.

I think pikemen should behave like the AOE II kamayuk, "Kamayuks are most effective in large groups, as they have a range of one, enabling them to attack from behind one another". https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Kamayuk

Players don't build regularly build army camps this alpha. This alpha army camps can't produce siege and as a result are only only useful if they can shoot arrows at enemy units. That means that camps are only useful if they are placed in an area that will be the center of fighting. Except it is difficult to place buildings somewhere there is constant fighting since your builders will get killed in the fight and the defending player can more quickly spam to a location in their own territory. This ticket (https://code.wildfiregames.com/D3668) will also make army camps less useful because the arrows won't even be as effective anymore. Camps can be built in enemy territory for offensive purposes. In order to actually use camps for that offensive purpose they should have the ability to produce siege. Otherwise, it is just a bad version of colony.

I figured, I had already forgotten the context of this debate.

Hi. To build the map editor (Atlas) you need wxWidgets header (for example its https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/wxgtk3-dev-light/) (or set options --disable-atlas if no map editor is required)

Currently I have heard ideas about: Changing CC cost and influence P2 Champions Nerf Archers and palisade

@Yekaterina I think it is best not to talk about cc changes in isolation, many other features of a24 are causing problems. These changes to ccs will not do much alone, they need to be analyzed carefully with other features so that they combine to make outsized improvement in gameplay. I can confirm that I agree with those changes to ccs provided that the gameplay becomes less stabilized, turtleing becomes less OP/ gets restricted to a smaller area of control, and defenses are weakened a bit. Add some civ diversification, and the positive effect of cc changes is multiplied by the presence of other good changes.

I am just tired of marching my 80 archer/ 50 spear army along parallel defenses in a 4v4 for 20 minutes at a time, only for people to go afk because the turtling is so boring. Everyone has a bunch of archers and are constantly trying to get an enemy to fight under a fort and tower, but no one will because their archers get eaten by towers. You can't attack weak spots because archers will get to the fight before any other unit besides cav, and then even weak spots take too long to break, causing you to be 2v1ed. One problem is stone availability, another problem is that everyone has too much time on their hands. In a23 everything was a race against time, in a24 there is little excitement, little risk, little reward, and little offensive mobility. This late game turtliness and gameplay stabilization is probably the worst problem of a24 and needs to be addressed more, because it covers up all of the good features a24 did bring. You talked about defensive map control, this is the opposite of what Rauls used to do with his ptol colony-->fort--> catapults. The way I interpreted @ValihrAnt's talk of map control, I think he was trying to foster offensive map control.

You can edit the map. Guess he just wants a map filter so random selection can be used (inferred from "when it happens I quit")

There isn't. You can edit the map.

We could make it so heroes can unlock the training of different units as long as they live.

I was a little unmotivated to work on the mod but im back at it. Added a new prototype branch on github where you can follow the progress of the next update. Also made a spreadsheet i use for re-balancing units for the mod that you can look into if interested. It will work with a deduction system based on what the unit is wearing as described in my previous post.

What the game needs is a soldier-citizen concept, then, instead of the current citizen-soldier concept. You need citizens (workers), who just happen to fight, rather than soldiers who just happen to work. Then you could create more champions (your "real" soldiers) for each civ and move their availability to P2, along with some weak siege ("dudes carrying a log") P3 has heroes, advanced siege, mercenaries (and possibly extra champs unlocked).

Grab a woman and have her attack a rabbit. Auto-explore.

Maybe it would help if the berries looked more like the harvest. Sketch:

By reducing ranged damage overall. Currently all ranged units have to much DPS for my taste. The current meta revolves to much about ranged units, so people compare how archers and Javelineers fight against each other, whereas hystorically the fair thing to do is to compare how Archers and Javelineers can support melee infantry. In current meta it is the other way around, how can melee units support/soak damage best? Being pikemen.

I like the sand-color that makes the berries stand out. IMO, as long as there is some color differentiation between "map green" and "berry green" it is visible.

Made them bigger and added a decal.

Okay, so it would be over my dead body. I have an idea that might work, without much extra work.

I wouldn't mind if you just put a single blueberry there to represent a patch of berries. A model of blueberry I will make one in Gimp so you know what I mean I really wouldn't mind it looking like this, because it is easy to see, which is the most important thing!

Hello again everyone! I had an idea today to improve the "archery tradition" tech available to some archer civs. I think it should return to being a tradeoff tech like in alpha 23 but with some changes. 0 resource cost and instant research: a decision kinda like the seleucid champion infantry research add a drawback and a bonus with an overall effect depending on the situation in game (not necessarily a buff or nerf tech) The idea is to make archers with archery tradition beat other archers like in a24 by a significant (not OP) margin, but increase the vulnerability of them such that more units or buildings are needed to protect them from melee cavalry or melee inf. potential combinations of improvements and drawbacks: +10 meters range BUT establish minimum range (5 meters) where the archer would go to attack units further away. +10 meters BUT reduce HP (a little) +10 meters +15% damage BUT reduce HP(a little) reduce pierce and hack armor (a little) I think that if archers were nerfed in a25 to a reasonable level, then this upgrade could give some options to civs that would usually get archers, like mauryans. If a maur player is against a cavalry civ, or a civ with no archers, it is smart for that maur player to choose regular archers. But if the maur player is against regular archers, such as carthage, then it is smart for maur player to get archery tradition. But if a25 makes mercenaries balanced and effective (but still more expensive), then the carthage player could pull a surprise by investing time and res into merc shops and merc uprgades and mercs and showing up with mercenary sword cav. Balance considerations: getting this tech would have no repercussions like less training time from cc or resource cost (like a24) hence it should not be allowed until p3. Archer cavalry maybe should not be affected by the change, depending on the combination of buff and nerf chosen by the developers for the upgrade. I posted this here because there are many good ideas for a25 here and because I could find no other channels related to a25 that were open to public contribution.

Notice that no palisades were (ab)used by this player !!!!!!!! This is clearly an invitation for the enemy to come and try to take the civic center down. To me this demonstrate a high sense of morality and ethic by this player who wanted to assess the strengh of the combination fort/civic center with the only aim to try to comment on balancing posts in the forum!

You can already play some maps by night. A day and night cycle could be implemented on a map basis, but there is currently no one available working on this feature.