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Archers Overpowered? 10 archers vs. 10 skirmishers Units start 60 meters apart (archer max range) Theory: Skirmishers under fire as they have to approach by 30 meters Results: 6 archers left (all fully healthy) Observations: The archer range was decisive here 10 archers vs. 10 skirmishers Units start 30 meters apart (skirmisher range) Theory: Skirmishers can attack immediately, archer range nullified, strong javelin attack strength should even the odds Results: 1 archer left (full health) Observations: Remove archers' range advantage and things even out considerably; archers still slightly better, probably their attack interval advantage 10 archers vs. 10 slingers Units start 60 meters apart (archer max range) Theory: Slingers under fire briefly as they close to within 45 meters Results: 6 archers left (avg 75% health) Observations: As the slingers cost less abundant resources, this isn't a very good outcome for slingers 10 archers vs. 10 slingers Units start 45 meters apart (slinger range) Theory: Slingers can attack immediately, archer range nullified Results: 1 archer left (10% health); 3 archers left (avg 20% health), 3 slingers left (avg 40% health), 1 slinger left (50% health) Observations: Remove archers' range advantage and things even out considerably; After the first test was so close I moved some units around slightly by about 1 meter. The fact that results came down to a 1 meter placement tells me they are pretty much balanced in combat against each other. Is this desired? 10 archers vs. 8 cavalry swordsmen Units start 60 meters apart (archer max range) Theory: Cavalry under fire for 60 meters; melee cavalry should be archers' natural counter Results: 7 cavalry swordsmen left (avg 80% health) Observations: Unsurprisingly, the archers were massacred. This is a good balance IMHO. 10 archers vs. 8 cavalry spearmen Units start 60 meters apart (archer max range) Theory: Cavalry under fire for 60 meters; melee cavalry should be archers' natural counter Results: 7 cavalry swordsmen left (avg 80% health); identical results to cav swordsmen Observations: Unsurprisingly, the archers were massacred. I thought the cav spearmen would perform a little worse than cav swords due to their slower attack interval, but it didn't work out that way. This is a good balance. 10 archers vs 10 infantry spearmen Units start 60 meters apart (archer max range) Theory: Infantry spearmen in theory should fall prey to archers; we'll see Results: 6 spearmen left (avg 85% health) Observations: Surprised by this outcome. Archers were massacred by spearmen, probably because of the spearmen's double health. No spearman died until the last 10 meters of their charge. 10 archers vs 10 infantry spearmen Units start 30 meters apart Theory: Infantry spearmen in theory should fall prey to archers Results: 9 spearmen left (avg 75% health) Observations: Unsurprised by this outcome given the 60 meter tests, but this still doesn't feel right. Very unbalanced toward the spearmen. 10 archers vs 10 infantry swordsmen Units start 60 meters apart (archer max range) Theory: Infantry swordsmen in theory should fall prey to archers, especially since Results: 8 swordsmen left (avg 80% health) Observations: Archers were massacred by swordsmen, when it should have been the other way around since the swordsmen were under fire for the entire 60 meters. Conclusion I don't think archers are overpowered per se. At least not on a unit by unit basis. Their range does seem extreme though, and they only cost food and wood, so in a meat shield situation or raiding situation the results could turn heavily in their favor.

boonGUI User interface mod for the RTS game 0 A.D. Everyone can follow the development, contribute to discussions, report bugs, suggest features or even make pull requests. Install Choose your preferred method GitHub git clone https://github.com/LangLangBart/boonGUI.git Linux: ~/.local/share/0ad/mods/ macOS: ~/Library/Application\Support/0ad/mods/ Windows: ~\Documents\My Games\0ad\mods\ Pyromod Drag and drop the file over the 0ad start icon or double click it. The mod will be unpacked and placed in your 0ad mods folder ZIP Unpack it it in your /0ad/mods/ folder Launch 0 A.D., click Settings and Mod Selection. Double-click boonGUI, click Save Configuration and Start Mods. Troubleshooting If you get errors/warnings after upgrading, delete the existing boonGUI folder and install the mod again. If that doesn't help, just post a message here or on GitHub.

For the number loving folks I present some up-to-date statistics regarding development of 0 A.D.'s Alpha and pre-Alpha versions. I am doing this for the purpose of information only and appreciate any work done by the development team so far. The exact numbers can be read in the changelogs wiki page. Enjoy!

Buenas ; @Lion.Kanzen , esto es un Primer boceto ; (como no tenía certeza de a que se refería me vendría bien que corrigiera lo antes posible) Disculpen las molestias*

I know it was given to all members, but it is a badge, it implies responsibility to wear it. Thank you and I join you in this act of giving thanks, I never thought I would have such an honor, however I do not think I deserve it, but I will not despise your recognition. Thank you all for this beautiful hobby and non-profit work. It is an honor to be with you, even with those who do not hold me in esteem, thanks to my colleagues Sundiata, Genava55 and Alexander, for giving me words of encouragement. Thanks to Stanislas, Enrique, Feneur, Lordgood a very practical leader and to Michael D Hafer who inspires us with his extroverted ideas to keep dreaming together in this project. Thanks to the art team and collaborators. Thank you 0 A.D. community, it's been almost 10 years of belonging to this project, in September I will be 10 years since I joined. if my attitude made you uncomfortable, it was not a bad intention. We have moved forward and improved, I will always give my unconditional friendship to all of you. And to those who have not, I will pray that everything goes well for you and that you improve in whatever you propose to do. @Sundiata @Genava55 @borg- @Nescio @Ykkrosh Thanks to Philip Taylor who was the person who pointed out to me that there was a forum, where I could participate and give my opinion, as well as contribute.

There will be less people agreeing with you on that than what you think there are people supporting A24. You may spread toxicity but the result is that you alienate people around you even if some may agree with your arguments. 0 A.D. has been declared (near) dead several times in the past and right now it rather seems the opposite. Development has increased and that won't change because someone feels the need to be disrespectful. It is obvious that not everyone can be happy with all changes, but everyone can participate in a respectful manner.

Unix timestamps of course. A game titled "-2208988800" is sure to arouse some curiosity.

MORE HP TO ALL UNITS PLEASE FIGHTS ARE VERY TOO FAST

Please respect each other, criticise the game and its development all you want (though if you actually want to increase the chances of your opinion being considered -- doing so in a polite and constructive way is a good idea), but this forum is no place to mistreat other people.

Congratulations to all the developers of this incredible game made in a collaborative and completely voluntary way.

Greetings! I quite new to playing 0ad and so glad I finally got there. The game is amzing yet and has so much potential! One of the most important things to add in the future would be more factions. I know there many other things to do but is so amazing to try out new factions and maybe some day have the whole ancient family together in the game Now I have a few propositions: - Thracians (amazing military!) - Pontos (the mighty greek state in northern anatolia) - Scythians (first nomad civs with amazing horse archers) - Armenians! (the origin of cataphracts; mighty kingdom between Rome and the Parthians) - Nubians (rich kingdom south of Carthage) - Chinese civs (like Han?; in might and wealth more than equal to the romans) - maybe also one or two mesoamerican civs? (like olmeks?); would be amazing to see those ancient pyramids! Thank you so much for making this game!

I just had an idea: what about supporting two ingame UIs natively, i.e. a "casual UI" and a "competitive UI" (+ maybe an "observer UI")? Apart from the extra work for the developers, wouldn't that solve the problem of different player types? Maybe @borg-@ValihrAnt ("competitive") and @Nescio@Sundiata ("casual") could say something about their preferences...?

To say this release has been rushed is a little ridiculous on it's own to be honest.

Hi, I write with a little anger, hmm, a lot even and I think that it will be worth me a ban but as long as I do ... First of all, take a look at my last game, yes my last if nothing is done to change things. Files are in attachments. Now tell me, tell me honestly if that, that is 0ad. For my part, I can hardly recognize this game I loved so much, this game which reached such a level that it became a benchmark in the genre. Now, speaking to the developers, I just want to ask you why. Why such a rushed release ? I have no doubt that you are working hard to fix the bugs that are going to be submitted daily, but so many changes and so sudden are not the best. I also know how to count on your listening to the community to direct you in your works when you do not know which direction to take. I will not list here everything that is wrong with this release but I trust that the cries of the players will be heard and that the game-play will be quickly restored. 0ad is a long term dream so please, please, make it great again and remember that #Make0adGreatAgain commands.txt metadata.json

Legal I'm not owner by this content, but I share this public content with our community understanding the legal consequences. http://waywardstrategist.com/about/ And We Share the vision from the Owner of this Site, I share this only by educational context or point of view. source: http://waywardstrategist.com/2015/05/04/lets-talk-rts-user-interface-part-1-interview-with-dave-pottinger/ Introduction One of the most crucial aspects of the design of any game is its user interface. This is an incredibly broad topic, ranging from the game’s menu system to its in game graphical user interface or HUD (heads-up display) to its interaction model – keyboard and mouse, joystick, game pad, or what have you. A game’s HUD is one of the most basic and most heavily utilized sources of information to the player in a real-time strategy game – many an RTS has been accused of forcing its players to ‘play the UI’ instead of being more free, as in genres like shooters, to interact mostly with the game’s world and environment. The HUD combined with the game’s control scheme (or mouse and keyboard interactions model) encompass the vast majority of a player’s knowledge of and control over the game space, and it behooves game designers to get these systems just right for players, to reach that age old Platonic goal of allowing the player’s intentions to translate directly into action in-game. Respected RTS game designer Dave Pottinger, now president of indie studio BonusXP, who has worked on storied RTS titles such as all of the Age of Empires games, and Halo Wars, has graciously lent me his ear (metaphorically speaking) and generously lent me his time to answer a couple of questions I had regarding his thoughts as a game designer on this critical facet of the real-time strategy genre. Wayward: It is my opinion, and tell me if you agree (this’d be a great place to throw in a comment if you were so inclined) that by and large the RTS genre is sticking with known quantities: for the most part, RTS interfaces are comparable to those developed at least 10 or 15 years ago Dave Pottinger: I think that’s true. 3 reasons: Part of that is just that there are less RTS games. Less games means less chance to innovate and see new stuff.RTS UI is hard. Improvements for the hardcore are almost always in opposition to improvements for the casual. Just today I decried how we allow you to scroll the camera while drag selecting because it’s terrible for noobs. 3 poeple instantly said “Well, you can’t change that!”. Every genre has those types of tried-and-true assumptions, but few have as much UI as an RTS game. Connecting back to your question, I think it’s harder to innovate when you have so much UI that is established and expected.I think RTS UI is something of a solved beast. Back when I started, there was still a debate about one or two mouse buttons. Thankfully, that’s out of the way. But, by and large, the RTS UIs of old were pretty good.I do fully expect other UI paradigms to come up in RTS games. Absolutely. I can’t wait (and hope to help introduce a few of them). But, I think those need to be accompanied with some game changes. If you have a game that plays like SC or Age, I think you’re going to end up with a UI like SC or Age because that UI works pretty darn well for controlling that type of game. Wayward: At their core, what are your goals regarding real-time strategy interaction models (both with ingame graphical UI and with keyboard/mouse interaction systems) Dave: At the simplest level, we need players to feel like the UI is allowing them to control the game. Well, maybe that’s not the simplest way of looking at it; whether or not they have fun with the game is probably the simplest metric. Nevertheless, IMO, people get most frustrated with UIs when they are unpredictable and/or they don’t know how to make it do what they want. If I have to answer the “How do I do XYZ? question too often during a playtest, then I know that one’s in the crapper. So, at the base level, I want a functional UI. Once you learn something, it should be easy to remember how to do it. I personally want a very consistent UI. The UI should also be responsive. That’s not a hard concept, but it can be hard to execute. Many RTS games run a lockstep, synchronous simulation (to push the unit counts so high). That can create difficult situations because the units may not start moving right away when you command them. That means we need to solve the responsiveness issue some other way. At a higher level, I think an RTS game has a harder-than-average presentation issue… We need to deliver critical info via a split second glance. That’s hard. No one wants to study the gait of a the unit to see if he’s limping when they’re really playing competitively. They need a way to see how much health the unit has at a glance. Hence hitpoint bars. Bumping up even more, if we can solve the functional and presentation issues, then we can start to think about how it does that. Does it look good? Does it fit the mood of the game? Is it fun to navigate? Where can we put the little dashes of love that make someone enjoy a UI? I do know some folks who start with the UI and then work backwards. I don’t think that way, so I have to do it this way Keyboard is similar, but there’s less room/need for excitement and pizzaz. Do I get some response when I hit a hotkey? Does your keymapper work? Great. Move on. Wayward:What do you think are the primary strengths and failings of RTS user interaction design as a whole? If this is too broad, can you comment on the strengths and failings of a representative game (perhaps one you’ve worked on) + comment on what you would’ve liked to see done differently? Dave: Broadly… I’m not sure I’d consider any RTS game to have a great UI. I say that because I think there’s simply too much information that you have to present. I do think there are plenty of RTS and RTS-like games that have good UIs given the gameplay they must serve. SC2 and LOL come to mind. But, I still don’t think either of those games is a good UI. Too much info, too geared towards the hardcore. I also humbly say those things expecting the same critiques to be lobbed at our past work (Age, AOM, Halo Wars) and our current game, Servo. We have a lot of information to show you so that you can make the best informed decision possible. Strategy folks tend to like that. Our job is to present all those things in the best UI possible. I’ll mention two specific fails… The “giant” Age of Empires 3 UI. It wasn’t really *that* big, but once the game was out, it was instantly lampooned. It surprised us. We had spent so much time arguing/debating/redoing that UI; we just never really noticed that it had gained too much size. We burned all of our energy and time trying to make everyone happy; I don’t think we were ever able to step back and evaluate it from a fresh perspective. So, when that reaction hit, the AD for the game (Dave Kubalak) and I sat down and just did the mini version that night without asking anyone’s opinion. Went out shortly after. The SelectAll button from Halo Wars. I hated it then and still hate it now. It was such a cave against the fact that we just couldn’t make the UI work well enough. We couldn’t get control groups to work the way we wanted and we were out of time (being that the studio was getting closed and all). We added it to make the game “as playable as possible”. It instantly had the expected effect. It was so easy to use that it became all anyone ever used. It really un-did a lot of the fine work that went into unit differentiation and special abilities. But, without it, the game wouldn’t have been playable. Wayward:What is the cardinal sin a designer can commit when establishing an interaction model for a strategy game? Dave: I think there are plenty:) A few that come to mind… Assuming everyone will want to “play like you play”. With RTS games having more UI than your typical game, there’s a bigger chance for failure here. You need a UI that can appeal to people who don’t play the same way that you do. In some cases, you may be on the losing end of preference, too. For example, I don’t personally love the QWERTY-style hotkeys that are the rage today. I understand them, though. I can accept that lots of people like them, too. So, we’ll just have an option.Assuming that everyone *wants* to play the way you play. Similar, but importantly different than the previous one. Just because you know the right answer, don’t expect everyone to want the same goal. Everyone has their “limit” in terms of how much energy and effort they will expend in a given game. It’s a huge mistake to assume that everyone will have more fun if they play better. Some folks are okay playing a slower paced game. Let them. Yeah, they won’t win a tournament, but they likely don’t care.Assuming that you are actually any good at the game you are making. You are not. Don’t think you are. Find someone who is and watch them play. That will change everything.Thanks again for your time, Dave! http://waywardstrategist.com/2015/05/04/lets-talk-rts-user-interface-part-1-interview-with-dave-pottinger/

Thanks for these tests and the explanations. Some players have tried similar tests too. The results from this type of test are interesting, but I find it hard to build robust conclusions out of them. For example, if you change the starting position of archers (archers concentrated in one spot or archers surrounding the enemy), results can change significantly. The power of archers also comes a lot from microing them (hit, spread and escape). Obstacles plays an important role too (buildings through which you can teleport, forests, palisades/wall...). Balancing the range advantage of archers is quite difficult. If melee units can provide a reasonable counter, nothing prevent a player with archers to make melee units too. And since cavalry units do not play the same economic role as infantry, I would guess the most relevant test would be slingers versus archers and slingers versus skirmishers which are the units with similar role in game. The corresponding numbers found seems off by a large margin to me. Archers are now also a decent counter to both catapults and bolts if they are not well protected too. Skirmishers/melees do a terrible job at protecting sieges against archers. It is now hard to use catapults to destroy a fort protected by archers. Unbalance between civilization with or without archers get worse since mauryans and persians can get archery tradition on top of other upgrades and benefits from population cap advantage which make it easy to outnumber the enemy. I do not mean that balancing this would be easy since the current balance is the result of aggregating many other changes (units speed, rotation speed, no hp increase with phases...). I would like to emphasize that the problem is not to be minimized

Don't forget to check out the statistics of the civilization units to improve the balance.

A saying as old as the internet itself: don't feed the troll. As for banning, I don't feel strongly either way, I certainly like the lackadaisical approach that we have currently but I've been on the receiving end of the trolling itself. I feel the bigger issue is more about the extremely low quality content and signal-to-noise ratio. Especially considering we have to read that crap, and that only people involved in development effort itself can truly appreciate what has been done (tks @borg-@Nescio the whole 0ad dev team and reviewers @Feldfeld @ValihrAnt). Even not polished feedback from players is welcome, and even with a certain level of salt, it's at least legitimate. Just a soft-ban on certain subforums (that require some level of intelligibility) would be enough in my understanding, they can still trash talk anywhere else. (PS: I don't want this to takeover the discussion, just my 2 cents)

I would like to participate in a tournament now.

It seems to me we should have more well-defined roles for javelins and slingers given the results? At closer range I'd expect for javelins to be way more effective, basically as skirmishers they should be more suitable for close combat (perhaps more effective at supporting infantry?). As for slingers, what role they could even have?

Option 3: 1 game. All vs all. Last man standing.

This topic reminds me of the original Golden Axe eletronic game, when we were still playing in the arcades. Long time ago. Almost inside 0 a.D. time frame, lol. In that game, the bodies of defeated enemies were petrified on the ground. Due to insufficient memory, this feature was removed from the Genesis / Mega Drive port.

Think that means postdata, or P.S. in English.

Recuperado de: Wikiloc | Ruta RUTA COSTERA: parque arqueológico campa torres-faro campa torres-parque campa torres Esta es una reconstrucción de una "choza" propia de los pueblos castreños (en este caso de los astures, pero como ya he dicho, común a todo el espacio castreño; así que podría encajar perfectamente en la facción). Se encuentra en el parque arqueológico de la Campa Torres (que no es otra cosa más que la musealización de ese yacimiento arqueológico): Parque Arqueológico-Natural de la Campa Torres | Web de Gijón (gijon.es). Lo más interesante de esta reconstrucción es el tejado. Destacan especialmente los listones de madera (se cuelgan de la viga central interior), usados para sujetar la cubierta vegetal del mismo e impedir que este se desmorone por las inclemencias climáticas (viento..etc.). Estas técnicas están documentadas en los llamados "teitos", construcciones que hasta el siglo pasado seguían usándose en zonas de montaña de todo el noroeste de la Península Ibérica especialmente (sobre todo en las actuales Galicia, Asturias y Cantabria). Este artículo sobre las "brañas" (término local agrícola y ganadero al que los teitos están estrechamente unidos), ilustra más del tema: 10358-38243-1-SM.pdf (upv.es)

At this point I want to follow you and say Thank you! to the team as well It has never been my goal to earn a badge but I feel honored, well, let's say recognized!

Also, a number of interesting things about those kinds of sculptures: actually, they are usually attributed to peoples further north than the Lusitanians (other peoples of the "castro culture" such as astures, cantabri or gallaeci), although obviously these peoples have similarities with the Lusitanians (and viceversa). Most of them have been attributed to the gallaeci (although they are also used as a source to study the astures and Cantabri). An article about them: Vista de Las imágenes como un modo de acción: las estatuas de guerreros castreños (csic.es)

WOW, impressive. It would be great to include with the Lusitanians other great peoples of the "Castro culture" such as the Astures, Gallaeci and Cantabri. I have a source that could be useful in relation to the economy and architecture: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/236280042.pdf

You are making a major mistake. The Avars of the Caucasus which have migrated there from Iran, are not linked with the Pannonian Avars at all. Their name similarity is only a coincidance. The early medieval Avars (pannonian Avars) are Turkic. The Avars in Dagestan have nothing in common with them. this flag belongs to the Avar Khanate, in Dagestan, not the Pannonian Avars, again, the two have nothing in common.

There is a functionality that I want to create for 0 ad. It is a feature that comes from the Caesar series. I like the trading system with cities that are not in the map area. But to program this feature, it is necessary to program quite a new extra interface, that is, an extra international trade screen. The idea is commercial with other neighboring cities on the map, for example, the one I am showing you above, you come exotic as well as certain goods,resources that your city has plenty to spare. What I imagine to do is to be able to trade slaves with mercenaries and simply even create exotic resources something that was also one of the features of Rise of Nations.

Well I'm now on two different projects: I made a modded version of the Nile map, that changes the disposition of the players, and I think I will eventually pull-request it as an option that players can choose after picking the map. That was mostly to get familiar with random map scripting, the map I really want to create is one with mountains that don't play out as simple placeholders for obstructed land, but feel more natural and playable. A different terrain to battle on. To generate mountains, the idea I had is simple: given a portion of any shape of a raster map, sample a number for each pixel (the sampling distribution can and will affect the result), then make each pixel have elevation equal to the lowest neighbour plus the random value for that pixel. I made a proof of concept in R and these are the results (with different distribution for noise): I wonder if this simple idea alone can produce good loking mountains, but I need to tweak the distribution first. And to do that, I need to know how the heightmap affects rendering and how it affects passability. I didn't find anything about this. Also, a painter that makes any impassable terrain evident by applying a rocky texture on it, would be terribly useful, I didn't find that either.

I like the way Age of Mythology did it. Basically a simple story for i. and ii. that let you get to know the main character. There was a smooth transition to the main campaign, however, you didn't miss anything essential when you skipped the learning campaign. I would advocate a continuity between i., ii. and the main campaign, however, each part should be playable on its own right from the beginning.

The A.D. B.C./C.E. B.C.E. system for chronology has been eliminated. What system do you propose for a replacement and what does it mean for the title of the game? Example: one option would be to use the system of AUC (Ab Urbe Condita), the date of the supposed founding of Rome. Hence 0 A.D. would become either 753 AUC or 754 AUC. It's hard to exactly say since the year 0 does not exist. Probably the best compromise would be 753 AUC or 754 AUC. That way nobody would be happy. What are your completely serious answers to clearly controversial topic?

mod that provides backward compatibility for map objects. How it works: In the history of the repository, we find all the renamed files (xml,png,dae,dds) and copy them to a mod directory with the current contents but the old name. Old maps should display objects instead of errors in the js-console. https://github.com/nwtour/0ad_path_backward_capability

Hi @Dejan1998 and thanks for your interest in contributing. As @Langbart pointed out, there is no need for applications for programming! You can join us on IRC (#0ad-dev on Quakenet) to discuss stuff more easily, but for now, wherein lies your interest in programming? Graphics? Pathfinding? Other stuff?

You clearly have a lot of emotional investment in the game and have grown comfortable with the previous alpha. That makes sense, but I would point out that 0 AD is a collectively developed game. There are a lot of things I dislike about the current iteration, and if I were to take dictatorial control over the game, it would veer in a radically different direction. Luckily some of my opinions have made an impact, and yours can as well. That said, while I like many of the changes introduced, many other people like yourself are disillusioned with the current alpha so you're not alone. You yourself said that you do not wish to nitpick over the problems. Would you mind explaining some of the things you miss from the previous alpha? I doubt I'll agree with any of your points, but I would like to better understand where you are coming from.

In fact, it is already present in game:

I think it should be nice to have an option for swapping them. Some people prefer ancient names, other prefer modern names. This is a dividing topic.

at some point you should have a screen called brief. Which consists of history, objectives, summary and a historical map.(all RTS have it)

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Keep up the good work

buenos días /tardes Boceto herrería lusitana; (vista frontal) (vista trasera) Disculpen me las molestias*

-Aquí , otro boceto mejorado para las Murallas lusitanas, Murallas; (vista frontal) (vista trasera) Disculpen las molestias*

If he used the original makehuman mesh and not one of the the low poly proxies no way it weighs in at 161,238 vertexes and 161,238 faces or about 313,570 tris BTW I'm a moderator on the makehuman forums Enjoy the Choice

I put the a23 and a24 version of this mod on GitHub at https://github.com/andy5995/CartographyMode @wowgetoffyourcellphone The a24 branch

512 Texture size to mantain some detail:

Very nice that you want to use 0 A.D. in you class! I fully understand your reluctance to use violence in class, therefore I've put together a mod that removes all attacks from the units. This means animals are still in, because who wants to teach kids animals do not exist? NoViolence.zip If there's something wrong or not working, please do not hesitate to contact me.