RANDOM MAPS: Suggestions, Bug reports and Ideas about random maps here.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

On 12/09/2022 at 12:11 AM, real_tabasco_sauce said:

One could reverse engineer the bug and find a way to make the map generate like the first picture every time.

But then it would be a different map, not an isthmus.  

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

On 07/05/2023 at 1:48 PM, real_tabasco_sauce said:

46	},
47	"Gaia": {
48	"tree1": "gaia/tree/fir_winter",
49	"tree2": "gaia/tree/fir_winter",
50	"tree3": "gaia/tree/temperate_winter",
51	"tree4": "gaia/tree/fir_winter",
52	"tree5": "gaia/tree/temperate_winter",
53	"fruitBush": "gaia/fauna_deer",
54	"chicken": "gaia/fauna_chicken",
55	"mainHuntableAnimal": "gaia/fauna_deer",
56	"secondaryHuntableAnimal": "gaia/fauna_deer",
57	"fish": "gaia/fish/generic",
58	"stoneLarge": "gaia/rock/polar_02",
59	"stoneSmall": "gaia/rock/alpine_small",
60	"metalLarge": "gaia/ore/polar_01",
61	"metalSmall": "gaia/ore/temperate_small"
62	},

I see that the berry spawns on gulf of bothnia frozen lake are instead deer. Was this intended? I guess it makes things seem more 'harsh' of an environment, but I would say this is holding back the multiplayer potential of the map.

I'd rather it just be berries.

It was intentional to ensure a different start to the map. Personally, I think it adds variety to make different types of maps have different starts and to make the player adapt. I won't even mention that berries in the middle of a frozen wasteland don't make any sense. Oops! I did mention it.  

[real_tabasco_sauce]

1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

It was intentional to ensure a different start to the map. Personally, I think it adds variety to make different types of maps have different starts and to make the player adapt. I won't even mention that berries in the middle of a frozen wasteland don't make any sense. Oops! I did mention it.  

I was sure to use the "Cold" berries.

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4990

Edited September 10, 2023 by real_tabasco_sauce

[real_tabasco_sauce]

Much improved migration script.

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D5129

Use radial spawning so that players may be either grouped with their team or spread out.
Use space more efficiently: larger islands, more spacious islands. Main 'continent' is located in the center.
Fix player islands merging with higher player counts (even on medium map size)
Make starting islands larger and give them wood. Reason: players should not be forced to leave their home island, but instead decide a good time to leave to fight for control over the middle.
Savannah generation gets 1 group of main huntable animal since there is little wood, giving the biome a considerable effect on gameplay, depending on the animal.

 

Spoiler

 

Edited September 15, 2023 by real_tabasco_sauce

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

I like it. It's not as "realistic" as the original, but what's important is that the concept is better realized from a gameplay standpoint 

[real_tabasco_sauce]

On 10/09/2023 at 2:17 PM, real_tabasco_sauce said:

K they are all fixed, as far as I can tell for a26 and a27. Since the secondary animal for savannah is an elephant, its not super great at balancing those, but it is no more than 400/500 food res difference.

 

Maybe just see if you find any issues first.balancedmapsbyBAD.zip

@andy5995 are you still heading up the git for the community maps mod? Any chance you could update it with this? It works for a26 and a27. I also asked @badosu directly on mod.io but I doubt he will respond.

Edited September 16, 2023 by real_tabasco_sauce

[andy5995]

On 16/09/2023 at 3:51 PM, real_tabasco_sauce said:

@andy5995 are you still heading up the git for the community maps mod? Any chance you could update it with this? It works for a26 and a27. I also asked @badosu directly on mod.io but I doubt he will respond.

@real_tabasco_sauceRight now I'm only reviewing pull requests (I would have replied sooner, but didn't get any email notification that you pinged me).

[real_tabasco_sauce]

2 hours ago, andy5995 said:

@real_tabasco_sauceRight now I'm only reviewing pull requests (I would have replied sooner, but didn't get any email notification that you pinged me).

Well, it all works for a26 at least. If you have time, it probably wouldn't be too hard to update. If not, I'll figure out how to send a pull request your way.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

How about instead of selecting "random" for map biomes and team placements, the users could use a checklist with something like "select all" and "deselect all" to make things quicker.

That way particular biomes and placements can be avoided, while still allowing for some surprises.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

we shouldn't sort players for circle placement in rmgen 2. Players are used to just alternating the teams in game setup to produce alternating team placement.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

I briefly put together a simple random map, a mountains version of mainland. Basically instead of the impassable cliffs, we have passable hills and mountains that don't disrupt resource placement.

I suppose it could be a landscape of mainland instead of its own map.

Edited July 26 by real_tabasco_sauce

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

8 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

I briefly put together a simple random map, a mountains version of mainland. Basically instead of the impassable cliffs, we have passable hills and mountains that don't disrupt resource placement.

I suppose it could be a landscape of mainland instead of its own map.

Not bad. Maybe bigger forests though? I wish we could make terrain painting less blotchy. 

[real_tabasco_sauce]

4 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Not bad. Maybe bigger forests though? I wish we could make terrain painting less blotchy. 

These are the same forests in 1v1 mainland. For some reason the forest sizes change going from 1v1 to 4v4. I am not really a fan of how small they are in 1v1 games, which is part of the reason i don't play 1v1s much.

imo they should be the same size from 1v1 to 4v4.

[guerringuerrin]

On 07/05/2023 at 3:13 PM, real_tabasco_sauce said:

Are there any other easy to fix issues people have with some random maps?

A little bit more wood on badosu mainland map would be nice. Not as much as Feldmap version, but still feels wood can be scarce at starting point. 
I think this would make more players want to use this version, which also includes fixed positions, something very interesting for TG and that could help a lot to create balanced games and deepen game strategies for certain teams.

[alre]

3 hours ago, guerringuerrin said:

A little bit more wood on badosu mainland map would be nice. Not as much as Feldmap version, but still feels wood can be scarce at starting point. 
I think this would make more players want to use this version, which also includes fixed positions, something very interesting for TG and that could help a lot to create balanced games and deepen game strategies for certain teams.

have you tried the @seeh's version?

[guerringuerrin]

@alreI didnt!