MarcusAureliu#s
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@Loki1950 @Stan` @Dizaka i am total IT nub, but i guess the revision number is something that is subject of frequent changes, so i guess i should post that only like 1 day before the game is played, and also, where do i see revision number ? Also lets see if there will be at least 4 people who are willing to play on Saturday 8 CET, when that is clarified i will send a warning.
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How about Sunday, 20pm CET ? Should be possible for Europe and America where most of us are from
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Eae manos,
While the SVN version is already playable, there have been little to no opportuninities to play a TG. This is due to players not having installed the version, but also to a lack of coordination, which is the issue this thread aims to solve. So please state here if you are intrested to play a SVN TG and also mention when you might find time to do so.
Get SVN Version:
https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/BuildInstructionsGettingTheCode
svn co https://svn.wildfiregames.com/public/ps/trunk/ 0ad
Or check on Saturday a few hours ahead , if installer provided for this event is available for a simplified installation process of the correct version.
Update: Should be ready, here Stans Post: , thanks a lot @Stan`
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Windows link https://www.mediafire.com/file/impg1nstotftnga/0ad-0.0.24-24841-alpha-win32.exe/file
For Mac:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/8sjwsc3vo2s2nph/0ad-0.0.24-24841-alpha-osx64.dmg/file
A few notes!
- The RCs's version is r24841
- The RC will overwrite the current installed version.
- The RC will use your current config including mods, so make sure to disable everything (fgod, autociv, and badosu's mod are not supported)
- You might get warnings about hotkeys, we redesigned completely the system, so you might have to fix some of them (you may want to backup your config file if your intend to play A23B again- It goes without saying but even though we are really close to a release, this is an experimental version.
If you want to help more you can also perform those steps
- Launch a random game
- Test your language's translations and fix them on Transifex.
- Launch a normal skirmish.
- Connect to the lobby
- Play on the lobby with someone
- Launch Atlas
- See if everything works there.
- Open Unit tests demo (To see if there any breakage in displaying entity's)
- Try mods
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If you need any help ping me
- Enable feedback and see if it works (Main menu)
- Connect to and use mod.io
- Test replaying new games
- Test Saving and loading a game.
@Boudica @carthage @ValihrAnt @Feldfeld @borg_ @Stockfish @ffffffff @Pudim @JC (naval supremacist) @PhyZik @Talenters @nani @badosu @YT99 @aixo @BoredRusher @chrstgtr
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I am sure we all agree that a tournament with less then 50% of games played makes little sense. Also it is unfair for teams that make time, just to see that enemy team did not appear, without even leaving a note in advance. Therefore i open this thread to discussing possibilities for improvement, especially concerning the following topics. If you find yourself unable to formulate constructive criticism that makes at least some amount of sense this is not the thread to do it.
Team making: Next time first collect all players and then make balanced teams
- More fun to play balanced matches -> higher motivation
- We can make bigger teams so it is more likely at least 2 players have time
Disadvantages
- Complicates process as ppl might not agree with teammates
- Lower motivation by beeing forced in team with social nub teammates
More flexible schedules
- higher motivation for both teams to find date to play
Disadvantages
- more self organization necessary which did for the most not happen in first tournament
Banning Teams that didnt play for some games at all
Banning Toxic Players
Using Challonge
Having Resposible Team Captains (mandatory from beginning)
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16 hours ago, badosu said:
It might be an issue with scheduled matches for too many people, or it's just some teams don't want to play anymore because reasons.
Scheduling via challonge and not requiring to login to forum might help, you can make it async and let a longer deadline for matches execution. Again, if they are not bothered to check forum they might not to register on challonge too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯challonge is definitly a op discovery, it would also be less work to costumize all things
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1 hour ago, Boudica said:
I think that the question of whether to go on with the league is already pointless because today the last officially scheduled games should have taken place. I suggest we just evaluate the results and perhaps a new league can start soon?
According to the schedule, our team, Centurions, should have played two games on Sunday 28 July. One against Los Gringos and the other against eae em.
I hereby present a lobby screenshot showing that neither Los Gringos or eae em were present on time with at least two members as required. Our team was present with at least Wendy and me. For this reason, I'd like to claim the victory of both of the remaining games for our team.
yeah, but we need to analyze well what went wrong, normally would be one more week
May Gods havent played Centurios yet for example
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Unfortunately we got 3 zombie teams right now. Who wants to continue and who wants restart with other system ?
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13 minutes ago, go2die said:
Thanks for participation in week 3 games
Please if you can't play on Sunday make agreement in advance with announcing it publicly on forum you can't do it after.
Team # Wins Losses Points Players Notes Animal Farm 3 3 0 8.5 ValihrAnt, PhyZic, Issh, Edward, aow week1 free win
week2 4vs4 eae em - won
week3 - 3vs3 aginst eae em - wonCenturions 2 2 0 5 Boudica, Havran, Unknown Player, go2die, Wendy week1 4vs4 Team France - won
week2 off
week3 - 2vs2 wonOPTeam 3 1 2 3 LeGenDz, RolandSC2, bubblebut, superPOSITION, DoctorOrgans week1 free win
week2 - 2vs2 May Gods lost
week3 - 2vs2 Centurions lostLos Gringos 2 1 1 3 chrstgtr, Rauls, SaidRdz, Ricsand week1 lost game - absence
week2 free win against Team France
week3 offMay Gods 2 1 1 2 fpre, Marc Aurel, Lord_commander, randomid, nani week1 off
week2 - 2vs2 OPTeam - won
week3 - 3vs3 against Animal Farm - lostTeam France 3 0 3 0 Dakara, esu, METAFOUNDATIONS, Dakeyras week1 4vs4 Centurions - lost
week2 - refused play 2 online - lost game against Los Gringos
week3 - absenceeae em 3 0 3 0 Badosu, Stockfish, Borg, Vicentesk week1 lost game - absence
week 2- 4vs4 Animal Farm - lost
week 3 - absenceAnimal Farm had 4 players available, accordingly they get full points for win according to rules
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8 minutes ago, vinme said:
every1 who doesnt hate black ppl already knows this thoes who do im sure wont care for the message.
what is saying "black lives matter" supposed to accomplish?
First of all raising awareness. The police cant afford to cover racists practice by police anymore if there is public pressure on the responsible executives. Also it is about fighting for cultural hegemony in that area, which is of major importance to make sure there will be no dominating "white supremacist" culture amongst younger generations and elsewhere in society
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Eae em fak, i didnt even realize, didnt pay attention when game was setup and then just played. You are rightfully confused as it should have been Lake map. Luckily it was the mistake of enemy team i think eae, otherwise repeat game in case of demand by the losing if it was the fault of the winning team for future incidents.
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12 minutes ago, ValihrAnt said:
eae em vs Goats
add banned teams pls, or confirm that it was ptol and brit as i remember
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I think it would be a really helpful feature if scroll speed of map ingame would be costumizable in options/game settings and saved. fpre told me to ping @Stan`
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1 minute ago, faction02 said:
Here are my ratings
ValihrAnt(10.25)
borg-(eae)
PhyZic(goat)
Boudica(rush)
Rauls(always connected)
fpre (fgod)
Stockfish(1vs1)
chrstgtr(op)
Edwarf(nub)
Badosu(?)
Havran(The pride of tier3)
UnknownPlayer(rams)
Dakara (Fr)
SaidRdz(8)
randomid (spam)
Ricsand(Brit&Nub host)
Metafondations(Fr)
Dakeyras (Fr)
Issh(Preacher of nubness)
esu(Fr)
aow (colgate)
ITRELLES (Lasagna)
darkcity(nub)
those are approximate ratings, they shouldn't be taken too seriously.
You forgot randomid rating 41
Also you should enter some team eae
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1 hour ago, PhyZik said:
1. Could you add the player names to the teams? It's hard to keep track or to open up a second tab to see, which team has which players.
2. What about the teams that didn't show up today like eae em and Los Gringos. I thought they will just lose, but @go2die says they are out of tournament. Pls. clarify.
Teams are not out of the tournament. Matches can still be played. Although only if the teams that were here today agree which they dont have too as no other time has been agreed upon. If they will not get played until next Sunday i will rate them as defeat. I will add players to graphic.
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In some 1v1 tournament i played ValihrAnt and i would bet 1000£ that i am going to lose 10 out of 10. Still i enjoyed the experience. I understand that some player who are above the team average strength might feel like they have been held back and more competition means more fun to some extend. but still each team has the potential to win some games. I would suggest we play for now while we continue to develope more advanced mechanisms for the next season that allow to improve balance
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27 minutes ago, badosu said:
What's a bye week?
As now we have 7 teams we can still only make 3 pairs/matches so one team has to pause
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Is there any team that wants to have a bye week on Sunday ? I
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6 hours ago, go2die said:
Poll is wrong.. you need make 2 questions keep it or modify.. and if selection 2 wins you have to create another poll for solution otherwise you "split" small votes". You can still compare 1 vs 2+3 answers to keep it... but i hope you got my point
it is only wrong if you count it that way. Answers 2+3 can be counted together for ppl that want change. So if 10 vote 1 8 vote 2 and 7 vote 3 we can still use option 2
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Back then people involved in the discussion argued against more strict balancing rules. As i see it we have three options:
1: keep the rules as they are ( and maybe expand the tier list and people can change voluntarily)
2: Enact a maxmimum points per team system as suggested by @badosu, based on @go2die new rating list
3: Expand the tier system to with additional ranks based on the @go2die rating list
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55 minutes ago, Boudica said:
I don't want to take any credit from @MarcusAureliu#s for his work with organizing the event. There was more to do than make teams. It was a bit unfortunate that I only joined the discussion later. Anyway, I believe that it wasn't already too late. The tier system wasn't yet finalized, so I thought that the suggested teams would have to be subject to further discussion (rather than letting someone grab the best teammates based on one person's opinion about player abilities).
I felt that my suggestions were ignored when the first round was announced, but provided it was only intended as a test week, it wouldn't change much. It unfortunately made some so-far suggested teams commit to the suggestion. So in retrospect, starting the test week was probably the only wrong move. The announcement came late and our opponents didn't even show up, but the negative side effects persisted.
My opinion is that we could really benefit more from balancing well, even if it required taking away some freedom of choice. I saw several people compare our situation with professional sport leagues, but I think this doesn't fit our situation at all. There are just too few really good players, which is the opposite you see in football leagues. Also, there is no custom of some kind of clans present in the community. Perhaps because the community is rather small. I don't really think that many players would cancel their participation just because they wanted to be with someone else. Meanwhile we already know that we have multiple players that can't play a good game (or any game) unless we change something.
At first the main focus was on getting any teams in general to play, and many players had very specific ideas who they want to play with. During the course there have been several ideas added to the discussion, i havent noticed though that there was a consesus of the majority to one of the different ideas, so there was no point in changing it. Me or @go2die will therefore make a poll to see if a consensus can be reached among the participants. Otherwise further balancing will have to be reached by appealing to the sportsmanship of people to form op teams, or alternatively on the tier list expansion.
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1 minute ago, go2die said:
there is additional players asked for team: kindly send me private msg about their rating (same rules applies as before) increment 0.25
1-2 total noob 2-4 average 5-6 best average but still weak7-8 very good 9-10 OPs additional players Wendy Itrelles solooyo chet aow Pachamama jeromescherer LeGenDz Well regarding teams, it looks some people won't team up together at all coz personal issues. We can only force them by rule to pick another player or add to the team weaker player to make ratings more balanced. So if team has "additional" player the weakest player he to play first or next game based on team choice .... Agree?
Wendy and aow have teams as far as i know. I offered LeGendz to join my team. The others have not reacted to possible team suggestions, so i am not sure they are still intrested in participating. Also i want to add the existence of many of the current teams depend on the fact that they were allowed to choose their team partners to a large extend. For better balancing it would have for example been helpful to get involved in making tier list from the beginning.
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6 minutes ago, go2die said:
I can take care of Tournament organization As I have great managing skills. Marc are you ok? I would propose even rebalancing and I can be out of game just for reason to be objective [if you vote for it - otherwise I will be happy to play]
First i need collect additional players in pool (let me go thought all entries here) and I will summarize it - I guess first page needs to be update frequently to not lose focus.
It does not mean I want to make bad against Marc Aurelius, he made great job! and @PhyZic is only partly correct, we should be happy he organized and moving forward. He just need additional helpers.
BTW: @Issh current rating is 7.64
and Goats team getting 35.29 points running away from Los Gringos around 2.22 points diff.
If you want to propose a rebalancing method and you can convince all teams to change players, you are welcome to propose your method. Although i think for now we should be happy about having 6 complete teams willing to participate and just see how it works out, and just get it started instead of discussing changes for the next 5 years. Even if there are favorites in this tournmanet, doesnt mean there cant be any surprises, as this is the first opportunity to apply advanced team tactics and communication, which might or not have significant impact. Also every league has its favorites. After that is done i suggest we discuss how the system can be improved in the future
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@user1 or @elexis could we do Lobby announcement to make players aware who dont check out Forum ?