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Posts posted by MarcusAureliu#s
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1 minute ago, faction02 said:
Here are my ratings
ValihrAnt(10.25)
borg-(eae)
PhyZic(goat)
Boudica(rush)
Rauls(always connected)
fpre (fgod)
Stockfish(1vs1)
chrstgtr(op)
Edwarf(nub)
Badosu(?)
Havran(The pride of tier3)
UnknownPlayer(rams)
Dakara (Fr)
SaidRdz(8)
randomid (spam)
Ricsand(Brit&Nub host)
Metafondations(Fr)
Dakeyras (Fr)
Issh(Preacher of nubness)
esu(Fr)
aow (colgate)
ITRELLES (Lasagna)
darkcity(nub)
those are approximate ratings, they shouldn't be taken too seriously.
You forgot randomid rating 41
Also you should enter some team eae
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1 hour ago, PhyZik said:
1. Could you add the player names to the teams? It's hard to keep track or to open up a second tab to see, which team has which players.
2. What about the teams that didn't show up today like eae em and Los Gringos. I thought they will just lose, but @go2die says they are out of tournament. Pls. clarify.
Teams are not out of the tournament. Matches can still be played. Although only if the teams that were here today agree which they dont have too as no other time has been agreed upon. If they will not get played until next Sunday i will rate them as defeat. I will add players to graphic.
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In some 1v1 tournament i played ValihrAnt and i would bet 1000£ that i am going to lose 10 out of 10. Still i enjoyed the experience. I understand that some player who are above the team average strength might feel like they have been held back and more competition means more fun to some extend. but still each team has the potential to win some games. I would suggest we play for now while we continue to develope more advanced mechanisms for the next season that allow to improve balance
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27 minutes ago, badosu said:
What's a bye week?
As now we have 7 teams we can still only make 3 pairs/matches so one team has to pause
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Is there any team that wants to have a bye week on Sunday ? I
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6 hours ago, go2die said:
Poll is wrong.. you need make 2 questions keep it or modify.. and if selection 2 wins you have to create another poll for solution otherwise you "split" small votes". You can still compare 1 vs 2+3 answers to keep it... but i hope you got my point
it is only wrong if you count it that way. Answers 2+3 can be counted together for ppl that want change. So if 10 vote 1 8 vote 2 and 7 vote 3 we can still use option 2
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Back then people involved in the discussion argued against more strict balancing rules. As i see it we have three options:
1: keep the rules as they are ( and maybe expand the tier list and people can change voluntarily)
2: Enact a maxmimum points per team system as suggested by @badosu, based on @go2die new rating list
3: Expand the tier system to with additional ranks based on the @go2die rating list
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55 minutes ago, Boudica said:
I don't want to take any credit from @MarcusAureliu#s for his work with organizing the event. There was more to do than make teams. It was a bit unfortunate that I only joined the discussion later. Anyway, I believe that it wasn't already too late. The tier system wasn't yet finalized, so I thought that the suggested teams would have to be subject to further discussion (rather than letting someone grab the best teammates based on one person's opinion about player abilities).
I felt that my suggestions were ignored when the first round was announced, but provided it was only intended as a test week, it wouldn't change much. It unfortunately made some so-far suggested teams commit to the suggestion. So in retrospect, starting the test week was probably the only wrong move. The announcement came late and our opponents didn't even show up, but the negative side effects persisted.
My opinion is that we could really benefit more from balancing well, even if it required taking away some freedom of choice. I saw several people compare our situation with professional sport leagues, but I think this doesn't fit our situation at all. There are just too few really good players, which is the opposite you see in football leagues. Also, there is no custom of some kind of clans present in the community. Perhaps because the community is rather small. I don't really think that many players would cancel their participation just because they wanted to be with someone else. Meanwhile we already know that we have multiple players that can't play a good game (or any game) unless we change something.
At first the main focus was on getting any teams in general to play, and many players had very specific ideas who they want to play with. During the course there have been several ideas added to the discussion, i havent noticed though that there was a consesus of the majority to one of the different ideas, so there was no point in changing it. Me or @go2die will therefore make a poll to see if a consensus can be reached among the participants. Otherwise further balancing will have to be reached by appealing to the sportsmanship of people to form op teams, or alternatively on the tier list expansion.
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1 minute ago, go2die said:
there is additional players asked for team: kindly send me private msg about their rating (same rules applies as before) increment 0.25
1-2 total noob 2-4 average 5-6 best average but still weak7-8 very good 9-10 OPs additional players Wendy Itrelles solooyo chet aow Pachamama jeromescherer LeGenDz Well regarding teams, it looks some people won't team up together at all coz personal issues. We can only force them by rule to pick another player or add to the team weaker player to make ratings more balanced. So if team has "additional" player the weakest player he to play first or next game based on team choice .... Agree?
Wendy and aow have teams as far as i know. I offered LeGendz to join my team. The others have not reacted to possible team suggestions, so i am not sure they are still intrested in participating. Also i want to add the existence of many of the current teams depend on the fact that they were allowed to choose their team partners to a large extend. For better balancing it would have for example been helpful to get involved in making tier list from the beginning.
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6 minutes ago, go2die said:
I can take care of Tournament organization As I have great managing skills. Marc are you ok? I would propose even rebalancing and I can be out of game just for reason to be objective [if you vote for it - otherwise I will be happy to play]
First i need collect additional players in pool (let me go thought all entries here) and I will summarize it - I guess first page needs to be update frequently to not lose focus.
It does not mean I want to make bad against Marc Aurelius, he made great job! and @PhyZic is only partly correct, we should be happy he organized and moving forward. He just need additional helpers.
BTW: @Issh current rating is 7.64
and Goats team getting 35.29 points running away from Los Gringos around 2.22 points diff.
If you want to propose a rebalancing method and you can convince all teams to change players, you are welcome to propose your method. Although i think for now we should be happy about having 6 complete teams willing to participate and just see how it works out, and just get it started instead of discussing changes for the next 5 years. Even if there are favorites in this tournmanet, doesnt mean there cant be any surprises, as this is the first opportunity to apply advanced team tactics and communication, which might or not have significant impact. Also every league has its favorites. After that is done i suggest we discuss how the system can be improved in the future
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Please also note that May Gods Team hymne is to be sung by all players life on discord, with recording before the game
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52 minutes ago, badosu said:
To be fair, I would allow dancing. Having rule for it only opens possibility of stupid drama.
It also will cause great drama and protest if someone wins the game for doing dancing tricks if we remove the rule, they are not " op unit control " as wild clicking around is pretty simple a task. In order to avoid big drama while reviewing potential incididents we will apply the principle of german criminal law: " in dubio pro reo" ( in case of doubt decide in favor of the accused). I guarantee you, in case a player tries to play " honourable " he will not run any risk.
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1 hour ago, Stockfish said:
@MarcusAureliu#s Take a look to number 10 rule. You don't want people reporting @ValihrAnt or others ,becouse of opness with units.
I usually dont see @ValihrAnt dancing, only when others dance him
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1 hour ago, badosu said:
Zig-zagging might be fine tho?
Escaping with zick zack is fine, bc the escaping horses dont shoot
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1 hour ago, go2die said:
If those are teams Im going to evaluate them the most subjective im able
[course will try be objective]
1-2 total noob
2-4 average
5-6 best average but still weak
7-8 very good
9-10 OPsMay Gods - fpre (8.5), MarcAurel (7), Lord_Commander (6.5), randomid (7.5) = total rank 28.5
French - Dakara (7.5), esu(6), Metafondations(7), Dakeyras (7) = 27.5)
Cyborgs [eae em]: Badosu(7.5), Stockfish(9), Borg(9.5) , Vicentesk(7) = 34
Goats ValihrAnt(10), Phyzic(9), Issh(7), Edwarf(8), aow(6) = 34
Los Gringos: chrstgtr(8.5), Rauls(9), SaidRdz(7.5), Ricsand(7.5) =32.5
??? Boudica(9.0), UnknownPlayer(8), Havran(7.5), go2die(6.5) = 31Thats my guess
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10 minutes ago, go2die said:
The way team are created is weird.. btw you should put first all "who whats to attend" and then mix them. If there are definitely not OP players. If you just make star team it gonna be fun for them but not for rest at all
I created team of players that didnt create team by themselves, which is the way team creation was supposed to be. I only suggest and not create teams.
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probably we are going to do something like test week
Alternatively you can play matches at later point this week and rest could make t7 with bye week this week
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Here you see the matches, upload the replays, mention the results and see the current standings
+++ For long term scheduling: all matchups are out +++
+++please announce team captain who is responsible for scheduling for team and communication with other teams and organizers+++
+++Civ ban order: Team1 ( left side of plan) bans first, then Team2 (right side on plan) bans second and third, then Team1 bans fourth. ( T1, T2, T2, T1)+++
Vote here for team balance changes
http://www.strawpoll.me/20185437
CET Time
For coordinating game time
@ffffffff, @Lord_Commander, @randomid, @Boudica, @Unknown_Player, @Havran, @go2die, @PhyZik, @ValihrAnt, @Edwarf @Issh, @aow, @chrstgtr, @rauls, @SaidRdz, @Ricsand, @borg-, @badosu, @Stockfish, @Vicentesk, @Dakara, @Metafoundations, @esu, @Dakeyras.
Results:
TeamFrance O:1 Centurios ( Boudica etc.)
Replays: Centurioins_TeamFrench_2020-05-31_0011.zip
Banned for Centurions: Iberians, Britons Banned for Team French: Britons, Gauls
(AnimalFarm 0:1 Los Gringos)
Los Gringos were not available, agreement on match can not be reached
(OPTeam 1:0 eae em)
eae em wanted to play just for fun at game time, match not played yet
Results:
Animalfarm 1:0 eae em
banned: britons, ptol by both teams
OPTeam 0:1 May Gods
banned: britons and ptol by both teams,
missing players: May Gods: fpre, randomid, Lord_Commander, OPTeam,: LeGendz, RolandSC2
(Team France 0:1 Los Gringos)
Team France was not available, other time was not announced yet
OPTeam 0:1 Centurios
AnimalFarm 1:0 MayGods
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43 minutes ago, Unknown_Player said:
What do you think using wooden wall like on the video?
Is it a cheat or normal? Want to learn your opinions guys.
For me its more cheat because using beyond its intended purpose.
Hm, i think this is kind of abusing pathfinding system. I think you can though give manually orders to destroy the foundations. I think walling is an aspect in AoE 2 i am not playing that though. but i think it is no cheating as you can prevent quite well by paying attention.
edit: seeing the end wall spamming kind of seems problematic
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48 minutes ago, ffffffff said:
pro
then i am out sry
eae
Just now, MarcusAureliu#s said:then i am out sry
eae
* in bc i very pro ofc
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18 minutes ago, LeGenDz said:
I’m in. Any team need a tier 5 player that’ll try hard?
I made a suggestion in head of announcement thread. Maybe contact those players if you see them in lobby
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Maybe contact, Boudica, Rauls, Unknown, Itrelles or chrstgtr, they are still making teams
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1 hour ago, FeXoR said:
While I like your enthusiasm organizing a tournament I would like to point you to the header of this forum which states "wildfire games", @MarcusAureliu#s . Since - as far as I know - you are not part of the wildfiregames team I would like to request you remove the "official" (and variations thereof) from your posts. (I guess we can live with the image of rules but please be considerate what you are saying in the future
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With that in mind I wish you a great competition and all participants an exciting time
"Say not always what you know, but always know what you say."
~Tiberius Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (10 BC – 54 AD)P.S.: A professional in a field (abbreviation "Pro") is someone who earns his living doing something in that field.
Are you refering to " oficially registered teams " @FeXoR? It was not my intention to suggest these were approved by wildfire games, it is just counting the sign ups in this thread, "official" just as far as the organisation of this particular tournament goes. I didnt mean any offence, and will remove those words to avoid misunderstandings. Please just let me know what i should adjust in order to avoid evoking false impressions.
Costum scroll speed in settings
in Game Development & Technical Discussion
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I think it would be a really helpful feature if scroll speed of map ingame would be costumizable in options/game settings and saved. fpre told me to ping @Stan`