Kampot Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Today i had very unplesant experience in a game. A player named DoctorOrgans insulted me for the whole game just because I'm simply better player. He sees only 1 viable strategy and it is "follow me", "do what i say".. If you simply ignoring this toxic player he starts calling you "idiot" and other bad words. This is not first time but many many times. How this can be resolved? Am I the only player person who experienced such low IQ behaviour? 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakara Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Cheers, this player is handicapped, he can only communicate in this way, it is his way of existing and of inviting you to play as he would like to play in your place. We have to accept it and be handicapped friendly. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 @Kampot Other players don't play with that doc or mute it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 59 minutes ago, Kampot said: Am I the only player person who experienced such low IQ behaviour? no. I will say it is interesting that he will intentionally put himself in a situation where he depends on his allies' success so that he can then scapegoat them after his team loses. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrstgtr Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Kampot said: just because I'm simply better player This will be fun. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freyyja Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 I have been berated by this player once and it kept me from playing the game for months afterwards. His remarks were extremely sexist in nature and just generally appalling. I wish there were a way to keep people like this from playing the game because I genuinely don't like being in the same space as him. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse_Harold Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Thanks for posting about this. @Kampot be careful to avoid insulting him back. Some of your comments are semi insults, although they are of course said in jest. Lobby moderators can't do anything about player conduct within the game. Our jurisdiction, is public lobby messages, user names, and game room names. The in-game conduct needs to be moderated by the game host and the players in the game. My recommendation is for more hosters to establish rules for their games, and for more players to join such games. Here is a forum thread with my advice about how to choose and enforce rules for the "pro" or "OP" team games. In addition, I would like to see lobby bans become more effective. We need a C++ software developer to volunteer to help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC (naval supremacist) Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hoze Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 I believe DoctorOrgans is already muted in lobby, if we don't want to play with him, we shouldn't/don't have to. The current moderation for this player seems adequate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse_Harold Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) Helicity reported verbal abuse from DoctorOrgans in a team game on March 4, 2023 at 11:30 to 11:50 UTC. He sent an excerpt of mainlog.html, and I parsed it in order to see the chat messages and who sent them. DoctorOrgans (1853): french favela Timmy_Death_Lord (1306): tf? GaiusJuliusPfifficus (1470): slums of paris? DoctorOrgans (1853): france is africa now DoctorOrgans (1853): thx to jews DoctorOrgans (1853): and white women Helicity (1377): really? GUID E4E25B1B022557AC: racist JC as usually Timmy_Death_Lord (1306): true GaiusJuliusPfifficus (1470): /allies don't think of nations, every person is different GUID E4E25B1B022557AC: french need the immigrations DoctorOrgans (1853): yeah ... anti-racist brainwashing 24/7 GUID E4E25B1B022557AC: all shits jobs are taken from them DoctorOrgans (1853): bs DoctorOrgans (1853): just pay the jobs more DoctorOrgans (1853): all this is a ponzi scam Helicity (1377): why, DoctorOrgans (1853) do you live in Paris? DoctorOrgans (1853): just make stable families, dont make @#$% study useless stuff and make them dumb feminists DoctorOrgans (1853): only girls with IQ > 115 should be able to study wang_wei: my brain hurts DoctorOrgans (1853): abortions in france is 200.000 year Helicity (1377): DoctorOrgans (1853) I disagree, because IQ test is as unreliable as 0AD ratings wang_wei: every time JC talks about women Timmy_Death_Lord (1306): whos in paris? DoctorOrgans (1853): @#$%s DoctorOrgans (1853): and jews Timmy_Death_Lord (1306): fr DoctorOrgans (1853): and lot of sand @#$%s too Harald_from_LOR (931): is phoenix going to reconnect? Helicity (1377): seriously wtf DoctorOrgans (1853): lol wang_wei: Jc dont use that word wang_wei: @#$%ing piece of crap wang_wei: you re from belgium? Timmy_Death_Lord (1306): @#$% the arabs wang_wei: one of the worst colonizers wang_wei: you @#$%ing crap Helicity (1377): Please stop this wang_wei: dont ever use that word again in my games DoctorOrgans (1853): yeah, i love to triggered anti-racists DoctorOrgans (1853): which word ? GUID E4E25B1B022557AC: Timmy_Death_Lord (1306)??????? Timmy_Death_Lord (1306): they are all terrorist Helicity (1377): ENOUGH! DoctorOrgans (1853): Helicity (1377) are you sand ? GUID E4E25B1B022557AC: lol gg i leave with this behaviours idiots DoctorOrgans (1853): :D One user, referenced by GUID instead of user name, disconnected before the CPlayerAssignmentMessage, so we couldn't determine with certainty the player's name. However, based on context, Helicity said that the player was probably wang_wei or Marre-Vrickad. Attached is the mainlog.html excerpt as it was sent to me by @Helicity. He copy/pasted the text into a forum PM instead of attaching it. Note that the forum software automatically replaces some Terms of Use infringing words with strings of characters like "@#$%". In the future, please attach the file so that the forum software doesn't auto-censor infringing words. Multiple people had some language in the conversation like profanity and pejoratives. I encourage everyone to simply collect evidence and report misconduct instead of engaging in "retaliation". I see that DoctorOrgans had the majority of problematic language. As lobby moderators, we don't moderate in-game conduct. Except, sometimes we do if it's bad enough. Please report future events. mainlog_excerpt.html Edited March 6, 2023 by Norse_Harold 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse_Harold Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) Also, there's this, maybe for the humor value. I joined a team game hosted by juarca as spectator on March 6, 2023 at about 17:00 UTC. This is observer chat. DoctorOrgans (1853): its wrong to say that for that idiot that just came in the specs DaddyCooL (1648): who? DoctorOrgans (1853): Norse_Harold DaddyCooL (1648): why is he idiot DaddyCooL (1648): over for Duck_ DoctorOrgans (1853): first, because he's low IQ , second because he mutes me for anything DaddyCooL (1648): what is your iq leopard (1242): 0 leopard (1242): 0.1 DoctorOrgans (1853): 3 because he bans me from his games even if i never did anything to him kun0 (1560): 90 kun0 (1560): 900 kun0 (1560): 9000 leopard (1242): 99999 DaddyCooL (1648): over for Stockfish (1722) DaddyCooL (1648): okay no DoctorOrgans (1853): Norse_Harold, why are u such an idiot by muting me for no real reasons ? It's because you are a mod, you think i respect you ? DaddyCooL (1648): is Norse_Harold a moderator? DaddyCooL (1648): Norse_Harold are you abusing Modartor force? Norse_Harold: Modartor force, is that like Jedi force? DoctorOrgans (1853): he's not even a real moderator .. Norse_Harold: midichlorians? DoctorOrgans (1853): he can only mutes .. DaddyCooL (1648): Norse_Harold what is your problem with DoctorOrgans (1853) DaddyCooL (1648): why are you so jealous? Norse_Harold: I enforce the rules. I have no personal beef with anyone DaddyCooL (1648): Norse_Harold, DoctorOrgans (1853) claims you hate him because he is unstopable Norse_Harold: he can claim whatever he wants, doesn't make it the truth leopard (1242): DoctorOrgans (1853) is a good player bad human being DaddyCooL (1648): your truth or absolute truth? DoctorOrgans (1853): there's no "rules" just interpretations .. i saw someone blatantly insulting someone else .. no mute leopard (1242): he is not Valihrant DaddyCooL (1648) Norse_Harold: I don't mute on every infraction DaddyCooL (1648): who was insulted by him? DoctorOrgans (1853): indeed ! Norse_Harold: I mute after a person builds up enough infractions for it to be significant DoctorOrgans (1853): bla bla bla DaddyCooL (1648): he says bla bla bla Norse_Harold: you must not be paying attention DaddyCooL (1648): i think he disrespect you Norse_Harold Norse_Harold: DrDisrespect DaddyCooL (1648): maybe instead of a mute you should considering banning him DoctorOrgans (1853): i said "over for vincel" and he mutes me .. just lol .. enough evidence to remove you from any responsabilities leopard (1242): stop DoctorOrgans (1853) if you don't want to be like shift sierra DoctorOrgans (1853): shift sierra , whos that ? Norse_Harold: shyft* DoctorOrgans (1853): dont know who it is leopard (1242): we respect you DoctorOrgans (1853) Again, let's avoid "insulting him back", please. Just be assertive and crack constructive jokes or make observations about his behavior, without using language that is against the lobby Terms of Use, in response. Meanwhile, collect evidence and report it. Thanks. Edited March 6, 2023 by Norse_Harold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) I wonder if Nazism is something we can moderate within hosted games? I am quite tired of seeing it as it brings down the fun of a game. I wish more hosts would ban adequately when it is in chat but it seems not to happen except for 1 or two hosts I know. Edited March 6, 2023 by BreakfastBurrito_007 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guerringuerrin Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) That guy is not only a racist, a misogynist, pro-Nazi and fascist. He also exerts constant bullying towards players and especially towards new players. It's the last thing the community needs to grow. I would delete his account and ban his IP. But sadly, he will eventually be able to connect. So the only thing that can truly isolate him is that influential and reputable players denies him to play on their hosts. Unfortunately, bc he is an "op player", most of these players look the other way and allow him to play. Edited March 6, 2023 by guerringuerrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 excuse my foul language here, but it is incessant from this guy. every other word he writes has something to do with hate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said: excuse my foul language here, but it is incessant from this guy. every other word he writes has something to do with hate. I was the host of the game and I regret not kicking him earlier. I also saw these messages but I was too focused on playing. DoctorOrgans clearly isn't from the Third Reich. There is nothing wrong about being born in Germany in that era but there is everything wrong in writing "3th" instead of "3rd". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 Tell him he's enlisting to defend Ukraine if he's so Nazi. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Helicity said: DoctorOrgans clearly isn't from the Third Reich well to take his point literally is to miss the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 @BreakfastBurrito_007 @Itms and @Norse_Harold are working on it. Regarding the GUID maybe @user1 or @Dunedan can match it from the DB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 7 hours ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said: well to take his point literally is to miss the point. Very unlikely but not entirely impossible; if he was born in 1944, that makes him 79 years old now. Now I know the commands to kick and ban /kick /ban I will use it on him if he misbehaves again. Half of the time, he is acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse_Harold Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Stan` said: Regarding the GUID maybe @user1 or @Dunedan can match it from the DB? I think that in-game GUIDs are randomly generated for each connection. It would only be linked to a username in the mainlog.html files of each user that was connected to the game before the user with GUID E4E25B1B022557AC disconnected from the game. 0 A.D. deletes mainlog.html each time it's started up, so unless the users backed up the file then it was likely deleted long ago. Even Helicity lost his copy of the file. Anyway, there's at least enough information to know that the unrecognized GUID wasn't wang_wei. In the attached mainlog_excerpt.html, wang_wei's GUID was F59C7E5A8195BC9B, not E4E25B1B022557AC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse_Harold Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Stan` said: @Itms and @Norse_Harold are working on it. You're referring to in-game mute functionality, of course. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.v Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 06/03/2023 at 8:53 PM, BreakfastBurrito_007 said: I wonder if Nazism is something we can moderate within hosted games? I am quite tired of seeing it as it brings down the fun of a game. I wish more hosts would ban adequately when it is in chat but it seems not to happen except for 1 or two hosts I know. I agree. I just stumbled upon a player called "hitler_appreciator". I asked them and they confirmed that they were serious about it. Something needs to be done. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossenburg Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, e.v said: I agree. I just stumbled upon a player called "hitler_appreciator". I asked them and they confirmed that they were serious about it. Something needs to be done. Hey @e.v action was taken by a moderator, thanks for the report 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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