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  On 15/06/2019 at 7:26 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

No offense to bigtiger. He has some awesome stuff in his mod. He's done some pretty cool things with decals, for instance, which should be merged with core game, and I like the dead trees and fallen trees, which should also be merged. But LordGood's trees are actually better. :) At least, from what I see so far! Oh, and BigTiger's bushes should be merged too. Very nice.

I think LordGood's oaks there finally have the "layering" effect right, to cast some nice self-shadowing and give that fullness expected from a mature set of trees. It's one of the things I like about the "old" Carobs.

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They will be committed. I'm waiting for his last map :)

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  On 15/06/2019 at 9:07 PM, Bigtiger said:

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Oh man, these look a lot nicer than some of your others! They fit quite well with LordGood's.  My main critique of some of your other deciduous trees is that their foliage is very thin. I imagine you partially do that for performance, but the fact still remains. I do like how tall some of your trees are. Sometimes 0 A.D.'s trees seem a tad too small.

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  On 15/06/2019 at 9:28 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Oh man, these look a lot nicer than some of your others! They fit quite well with LordGood's.  My main critique of some of your other deciduous trees is that their foliage is very thin. I imagine you partially do that for performance, but the fact still remains. I do like how tall some of your trees are. Sometimes 0 A.D.'s trees seem a tad too small.

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I appreciate the critique as it helps me to improve.

  On 15/06/2019 at 9:23 PM, Stan` said:

They will be committed. I'm waiting for his last map :)

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 Hopefully you don't have to wait to long! :laugh:

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  On 15/06/2019 at 9:28 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Oh man, these look a lot nicer than some of your others! They fit quite well with LordGood's.  My main critique of some of your other deciduous trees is that their foliage is very thin. I imagine you partially do that for performance, but the fact still remains. I do like how tall some of your trees are. Sometimes 0 A.D.'s trees seem a tad too small.

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I agree Tall trees look great. :) The Rome 2: TW used similar designs for trees.

The taller the trees are, the more room for height variety

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lol what are the odds we'd be making the same tree at the same time

Thinner foliage in the texture does make it easier to avoid visual issues with leaf planes intersecting all ugly-like, or forming impenetrable domes and such, but the trade off is well... thinner foliage lol. I am becoming increasingly convinced there is no right way to do this, everything's a balancing act between performance and visual quality

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  On 16/06/2019 at 1:05 AM, LordGood said:

lol what are the odds we'd be making the same tree at the same time

Thinner foliage in the texture does make it easier to avoid visual issues with leaf planes intersecting all ugly-like, or forming impenetrable domes and such, but the trade off is well... thinner foliage lol. I am becoming increasingly convinced there is no right way to do this, everything's a balancing act between performance and visual quality

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I am the odds :P 

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  On 17/06/2019 at 8:06 AM, Stan` said:

How big is a typical acacia leaf ?

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Apparently there's like 160 to 1350 different varieties of "Acacia" depending on who you ask... I was getting confused looking at different types, including the more greener broader leafed types I see around my neighbourhood. I should have stuck with "umbrella thorn acacia" or "Vachellia Nilotica" or "Senegalia Senegal" (gum arabic tree) or something like that. Anyway, the leaves are exaggerated in size and they look more messy/angular in real life... I was thinking they look too minuscule if I make them any smaller, but I might want to revisit that. 

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  On 17/06/2019 at 8:43 AM, Sundiata said:

 I should have stuck with "umbrella thorn acacia" or "Vachellia Nilotica" or "Senegalia Senegal" (gum arabic tree) or something like that.

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Well more variety is okay :) 

  On 17/06/2019 at 8:43 AM, Sundiata said:

Anyway, the leaves are exaggerated in size and they look more messy/angular in real life... I was thinking they look too minuscule if I make them any smaller, but I might want to revisit that. 

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Just wanted to make sure cause indeed they look very big. Maybe if the texture had more dense branches and leaves that would work :) 

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  On 17/06/2019 at 12:47 PM, Sundiata said:

Oooh, @wackyserious, I remember you asking for bananas... 

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I have doubts about what today's fruits and vegetables look like against their original counterparts.

https://www.sciencealert.com/fruits-vegetables-before-domestication-photos-genetically-modified-food-natural

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  On 17/06/2019 at 6:43 PM, LordGood said:

Banyan trees are ficuses, council trees/ strangler figs could be a taller variant.

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I'm not botany expert, isn't my area but I was investigated about Tropical areas like Mesoamerica and Asia (Tropical area). 

 

my point is this kind of fig. and those are more different than we have, or already exist.

Ficus Elastica.

Roots of an Indian rubber tree Ficus elastica, also called the Rubber fig, in Hong Kong, China. Stock Photo - 50880992

other tree speciments from Tropical areas. no necessary coastal land.

 

Resultado de imagen para fig deccan tree

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@Lion.Kanzen Yeah, we have similar looking trees over here...

One of our more common forest giants is the Silk Cotton Tree. It's absolutely humongous! Varieties of these are apparently also native to Latin America.

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  On 17/06/2019 at 3:11 PM, Lion.Kanzen said:

@Sundiata  you live in a tropical are you've seen what it's like?

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It's dense... 

Here's a collection of personal pictures I took of the nature scenes in my surroundings and other places in Ghana:

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