===[TASK]=== Seleucid units textures

[Nescio]

8 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

There seems to be an angle in the middle of the horse's crown, is that supposed to be so?

Also, the horse chest barding (peytrals) end in nowhere, while the ends should actually be connected, e.g. tied behind the horse' neck.

[Alexandermb]

49 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

 I would make the red feathers player color. 

i would too, but sadly there are some zones wich are alphas and those will become visible as player colours, so if the feathers are going to be player colour i will need to cut exactly the feathers edge so it will be a little less low poly.

[WhiteTreePaladin]

18 minutes ago, Alexandermb said:

i would too, but sadly there are some zones wich are alphas and those will become visible as player colours, so if the feathers are going to be player colour i will need to cut exactly the feathers edge so it will be a little less low poly.

Unless it is a very large amount, it's probably worth adding the extra polygons for the player color.

[Alexandermb]

49 minutes ago, Nescio said:

There seems to be an angle in the middle of the horse's crown, is that supposed to be so?

Also, the horse chest barding (peytrals) end in nowhere, while the ends should actually be connected, e.g. tied behind the horse' neck.

there are some armors coming for the horse made by enrique and others by me.
Noticed now it could be able to use player colour.

here are the files, the player colour texture is at the 2D hands.sele_horse_crest.7z


 

[Sundiata]

1 hour ago, Alexandermb said:

player colour texture is at the 2D hands

So I should make some? Can I get a "list" of the colours to compare?

[Alexandermb]

41 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

So I should make some? Can I get a "list" of the colours to compare?

i think is just making alpha the red zone if that's what you mean, otherwise that ride is nice if can be reached by player colour.

[LordGood]

Player color is a little tricky sundiata, transparency needs to be just right and void of all color. I think 10-20% opacity does the trick but it may well need a trial and error approach 

[Lion.Kanzen]

35 minutes ago, LordGood said:

Player color is a little tricky sundiata, transparency needs to be just right and void of all color. I think 10-20% opacity does the trick but it may well need a trial and error approach 

Its lees than 15% in Photoshop.

[wackyserious]

I personally set the saturation level to 0, to remove the color then reduce the opacity/transparency between 5-15%

Color of the area to be marked with player color must be close to a gray with RGB of:

• R = 150
• G = 150
• B = 150

Something close, between light gray and dark gray.

Also, use a layer that will serve as a player color checker/tester put in in the most underneath in the hierarchy of layers in order to test the colors more efficiently

Default game Player 1 (Blue) has its RGB defined as:

• R = 021
• G = 055
• B = 149

With these you can properly experiment with player color, take note that you can overwrite .png files while Atlas is still running, this saves time, you just save a revised version elsewhere then copy it and replace the one in your mod directory.

Edited January 27, 2018 by wackyserious

[Stan`]

Nice @wackyserious !

@Nescio For the connected part see the thread about saddles.

The metal crest needs more details it looks dull compared to the chamfron.

[LordGood]

10 hours ago, Alexandermb said:

here are the files, the player colour texture is at the 2D hands.sele_horse_crest.7z

@stanislas69

[Stan`]

1 hour ago, LordGood said:

@stanislas69

*Ducks* No 2D work for now

[LordGood]

ah, you were talking about a different horse prop in the kushites thread then?

[Stan`]

36 minutes ago, LordGood said:

ah, you were talking about a different horse prop in the kushites thread then?

Yeah the feather crest thing. Btw if you feel like it you could make feathers for kushites heads analog to the ones you did for Zapotecs

[Sundiata]

@Alexandermb, ok, you ready for the final attempt?  

Looking back at the size of the crest itself, and how you fix the crest to the shaffron/chamfron, I've chosen to reduce the overall size of the crest, and reduced the size of the gold semicircle as well. Try to keep the edge of the feathers at the same level as the edge of the gold semicricle. 1 straight line, no upward curving in the feathers' edge.

Like Nescio said, there's a small angle/kink at the top of the crown. Maybe adding another pane to that area will reduce this?

@stanislas69 I added some detail to the semicircle, hope it's ok like this?

So I completely desaturated the feathers, and put opacity at 13%. I had to play with levels, contrast and brightness to retain some detail..

 

Edited January 27, 2018 by Sundiata

[Alexandermb]

Here is following the same angle of the golden circle, remember the textures i used are just placeholders, replace them with the ones that are going to be used.

sele_horse_crest.7z



texture used: scaled to 256x512, (can work with other sizes i guess).

2 hours ago, Sundiata said:

 

 

[Sundiata]

@Alexandermb thank you so much! I think it looks fabulous!!

Spoiler

This is basically the most recognisably Seleucid thing for most people, and now it's a little more recognisable  

Edited January 28, 2018 by Sundiata

[Stan`]

It looks good to me. I'm committing this as is. See you in the next version.

 

EDIT : Will still check the actors because reasons.

[Alexandermb]

On 12/3/2016 at 8:53 PM, Lion.Kanzen said:

The mask. Where is the mask?

 

Reminder for myself: Use waves texture in blender as bump for the beard lines and use animation nodes addon for the circular shape of the beard.

[Alexandermb]

Cataphract peytral and blanket progress:

Spoiler

Missing only chamfron and middle blanket.

Note; Will turn the brown leather into player color.

[Stan`]

Is it part of the horse mesh or separate ?

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Hmm, unrelated to textures, but I think that spear needs shifted forward a bit. Probably a simple reposition and re-export.

[Alexandermb]

1 minute ago, Stan` said:

Is it part of the horse mesh or separate ?

Separate, can't bake that into the horse mesh (just like others blankets and peytrals)

Just now, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Hmm, unrelated to textures, but I think that spear needs shifted forward a bit. Probably a simple reposition and re-export.

Two solutions:

1. Animation re-export of 2h.
2. Modify Spear mesh

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

The spear looks too centered for every unit that uses it, so probably a mesh reposition.

[Alexandermb]

1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

The spear looks too centered for every unit that uses it, so probably a mesh reposition.

Easier then.

Back to the cataphract, i have everything ready in blender. only need to bake two pieces and make the chamfron only. Plus bake the green/purple variant i bake for make the player color.

But im my opinion, we should split companion cavalry from cataphract.

Gameplay wise one could be expensier in metal and have more defense (same hp) while being more slow.

in another gameplay-like mod:

1. Special Resource: One could be expensier in special resource (coin, silver + metal)
2. Moral: In a mod wich implements moral on the battlefield, companion could inspire morale while cataphract doesn't but sustract morale from the enemy.
3. Upgrade: Make the cataphract as an upgrade for the cavalry spearman (For having both) or champion cavalry. We already have this kind of upgrade for others factions.
4. Selection: Make the seleucids select wich champion they want to develop if they want chariots + companion or if they want silver shields pikeman + cataphracts.