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Ah yes. In SVN, tech requirements are moved to their own component. Just move this out of Identity: <Requirements> <Techs datatype="tokens">phase_village</Techs> </Requirements>

Perhaps: <Requirements> <Techs datatype="tokens">-phase_town phase_village</Techs> </Requirements> Remove the old requirement too. May work

Unfortunately, the camera in Atlas is not isometric/orthogonal.

Click the little ring icon in the bottom left next time?

This would be difficult, but not impossible. I imagine you'd have to download all of the assets, import them into Blender, then render them all in 2D, including the unit key frames to animate them.

Okay. Thoughts: This Fortress expansion could have a smaller territory effect, like Military Colonies, and only train women and Spartiate champs. Or not train women at all.

Agreed, this is good too. You can even turn off the GUI with alt-G. And then if the distance fog is too much at that height, you can turn that off in options.

The screenshots are likely created in Atlas, where the camera is easily changed without any restrictions.

Remember that it is a game though.

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Nah, in fact, I'd add Agesilaus II and give him a cavalry bonus. As others have said, we could remove one or more of the standard Stable techs to effectively nerf the Spartan cavalry. The Market is an important structure besides trading. I'd just remove some Market techs and then give the current Macedonian storehouse bonus to Sparta instead (and make up something new for the Macks). As discussed, I'm no longer against this. Mehh, again, we can just make their Stone Defense Tower upgrade more expensive or something. The towers fill an important role in the overall meta. Yes. Yet, Helots were used many times in skirmishing roles. Yes. Except I'd maybe suggest they train from the Storehouse and Granary. Yes. Yes.

We already have the Syssitia for their Academy* class structure, so I'm not sure what a Dromos would be for, other than to give some kind of global movement aura. It also has the same problem as a Roman Circus, in that the model would need to be relatively large in order to adequately convey what it is. Well, the Spartan houses have already been modeled and textured to look rougher than the other Hellenic houses. *What I call any special champion-training building: Syssiton, Gymnasion, Han Academy.

I'm not particularly wedded to Sparta having a Theatron in the base game (EA). I think representing a wooden theater somehow would be cool though and I like your idea of the Athenian theater upgrading from Wood to Stone. I think the current stone theater is too Roman in design and needs pared back, specifically the 2nd story/roof over the skene (aka stage).

But at least with a modified BuildingAI, garrisons can still affect number of projectiles? Standard UnitAI does not allow this.

It's essentially the Athenian gymnasium.

You are sure you are exporting just one single mesh?

Difficult to see what is happening. Standard UnitAI or a modded BuildingAI?

Were wooden houses a well known Greek cultural element?

It would definitely be unique and give them flavor to have a wooden Greek theater, something I think a lot of people didn't know was a thing. For instance, Athens' first theater was wooden as well, and only later was rebuilt in stone and marble.

About the Spartan heroes... It has been suggested that we could allow for a larger roster of heroes for each of the civs, but still only allow 3 trained in any given match. Something I like for EA (DE is a different animal). This would allow, e.g., Sparta to have 5 heroes (Leonidas, Brasidas, Lysander, Agesilaus II, and Cleomenes III) available, but the player must choose which 3 they'd like to train in that match. Next match, they might train 3 different heroes, depending on what strategy they're trying to pull off.

In another thread I produced evidence that Sparta has a wooden theater in Classical times. It would be interesting to still allow Sparta a Theater, but make it wooden, cost wood, and be weaker.

Yes, we are aware of the Hippeis. The Olympic Champions are specifically 2 men who flank the king on either side of him in the combat line. They are garlanded and their shields depict the cult of Zeus at Dodona. But I guess we could have multiple layers of Spartiate upgrades. Spartiate -> Hippeis -> Olympic Champion

They are Olympic champions and can therefore stand next to the king on the honored right flank of the phalanx.

Thanks for the pics. We've had plenty of great references already supplied by the venerated @Sundiata.

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