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Nice. Maybe the center boss you can take from a shield already in the game?

White on a wooden or leather shield.

I am not sure. For the faction symbol, it'll probably be white, but for shields and stuff, maybe player color.

perhaps a couple different variations?

Some of the stuff looks good, but I can't vouch for the realism. This guy sketched some stuff.

Symbol Valknut? https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Valknut

The meme makes fun of Americans, not Mexicans.

I think there needs to be a different set of sounds for an arrow miss as opposed to an arrow strike. So, an arrow hitting the ground shouldn't sound like an arrow hitting a soldier. Also, the "Fwop" sound for all projectiles sounds super cartoony. Just some observations.

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I like that the knocked back units have to "stand up" before they re-enter combat. I would say that they need a little more variation in the standing up animation. Right now it looks unnatural for all units to kind of "chair up" in the same way. Hands and knees, one foot forward, stepping upward and righting oneself would look better.

I looked at Millennium AD the other night to check out the buildings again. There are things I like about the Anglo-Saxon, Norse, and Carolingian building sets, but the textures are all incompatible. The Civic Centers need work the most (not quite up to snuff compared to core game models). I think using them as placeholder art would work though.

Germanic head references, for any artist who is willing. I think these models can just be edits of the existing models (ideally), and can be added to the core game probably. Ponytails The game has a ponytail male head model and beareded head models, but not together. Germans definitely would benefit from bearded head models + maybe a couple of ponytail variations (props?). Above: 2 variations. Ponytail on back of head and ponytail closer to crown. Above: Some ponytail variants at the top of the head. Short. Suebian Knot This would be specific to the Suebi faction units. This is a knot of hair off to the side (right side?) of the head. Maybe 2 variants, one lower and one higher. Braided Female Hair models It would be cool to have unique head models for the Germanic women. Perhaps 3 or 4 variants. Above: Says "Vikings" but I think would be apropos for Germanic women as well (Nordic and Germanic peoples are related)

Would an artist be willing to make some Germanic head models? Mainly, we're talking about ponytails+beards, Suebian knots+beards, and maybe 3 female head variants. References to follow. Any helmets will come later.

For the Suebians, I'm thinking a more "early" interpretation for their look, with the hexagonal shields and low instance of armor. If I were to add the Goths, they'd be a later interpretation. Right, a wooden longhouse is a wooden longhouse. For gameplay purposes, I think some kind of fortification would be necessary. Probably wooden. Any walls would be a wooden stockade, halfway in strength between palisades and stone walls. Thematically, I'd go for a more "settled" interpretation for their gameplay, with territories, etc. While the later Goths would have some "nomadic civ" elements, like ox cart dropsites, etc. Heroes could be Ariovistas, Arminius, and?

That is a large time frame. Would unit types and equipment have changed greatly in the intervening years? What about architecture?

Hmm, that looks more like a Champion "Extraordinarius" to me, what with the groin and shoulder pteruges. Certainly use that texture for them! For a rank-n-file citizen soldier (advanced Hastatus or advanced Eques), I think a subarmalis would look more like this upper body piece: Certainly others may have their own interpretations.

That is called the subarmalis. It is theorized it can be used as padding underneath many types of armor such as chain and mail. I don't see why it couldn't be worn under pectorals.

You're also referencing the balance notes of a feature complete released game. There is much debate still about the final feature list of the game.

I wouldn't mind the Palace of Darius, but what to do with the Apadana structure?

The problem with the 100 column hall is that you can't see the columns, so their impressiveness is completely lost. You're not gonna see the internal arrangement of the structure so who cares if one structure has 4 internal columns or 100. The palace gate thing already in the game should just be removed. It was added to the Persians because the Greeks got the Royal Stoa. DE already removes both structures. The Gate if All Nations has a unique quality to it that it's not just another palace or temple like all the other wonders or potential wonders in the game. It was built specifically to create awe and wonder to all those entering the capital.

Right, the game needs to phase out all those old oak tree refs from the maps. I don't know how to do that in the map scripts (though maybe some simple replace commands in Notpadd++ could work), but perhaps I can do it for you in the Scenario and Skirm maps.

The Germans Cimbri, Suebians, Goths https://github.com/JustusAvramenko/delenda_est/commit/74653b71376ba38593f675e4051586769292b59b https://github.com/JustusAvramenko/delenda_est Need halp from our resident historians, artists, and reference gatherers. Units Since the Suebi were a tribal confederation, units will have tribal designations, for example: Marcomanni Spearman, Quadi Light Cavalry, etc. Goths will represent the "later" Germans, with round shields, more helmets, more chain mail, greater cavalry. Suebian units look like "early" Germans, with hexagonal shields, fewer helmets, less chain mail, greater reliance on infantry. Basic units - Bare chested or Animal hide. Pants. Shield. Weapon. No helmet. Advanced units - Shirt. Pants. Shield. Weapon. No helmet. Elite units - Shirt. Pants. Cape. Shield. Weapon. Simple Germanic helmet. Champions and Heroes - Heavy body armor. Germanic helmet. Suebian Heroes Ariovistus Leader of the Suebi and other allied Germanic peoples in the second quarter of the 1st century BC. He and his followers took part in a war in Gaul, assisting the Arverni and Sequani in defeating their rivals, the Aedui. They then settled in large numbers into conquered Gallic territory, in the Alsace region. They were defeated, however, in the Battle of Vosges and driven back over the Rhine in 58 BC by Julius Caesar. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ariovistus Maroboduus King of the Marcomanni, who were Germanic Suebian people. He spent part of his youth in Rome, and returning, found his people under pressure from invasions by the Roman empire between the Rhine and Elbe. He led them into the forests of Bohemia, adjacent to the Quadi who already lived nearby, and established a large alliance. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Maroboduus Ballomar Leader of the Marcomanni. At first a Roman client ruler; during the first Marcomannic War he formed an alliance with other Germanic tribes and invaded Italy. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ballomar Arminius Was a Roman officer and later chieftain of the Germanic Cherusci tribe who is best known for commanding an alliance of Germanic tribes at the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD, in which three Roman legions under the command of general Publius Quinctilius Varus were destroyed. His victory at Teutoburg Forest would precipitate the Roman Empire's permanent strategic withdrawal from Magna Germania. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Arminius Found in the Mercenary Camp. Goth Heroes Alaric I History Wiki Link Theodoric I History Wiki Link Theodoric the Great History Wiki Link Buildings All wooden, less health than "standard" civs. "Walls" are a wooden stockade, halfway in strength between palisades and stone walls. "Fortress" is wooden. Building "shapes" should roughly follow Empires Ascendant standard, but with a Germanic veneer or aesthetic. There can be some unique exceptions for visual variety however. Maybe houses are longer than they are wide with a rectangular footprint, in contrast to other civs whose houses generally fit a square footprint. Suebians Rally Point Flag General Look References Civic Center House Storehouse Farmstead/Corral (combined building) Dock Market Temple Glory Statue Forge (aka "Blacksmith") Defense Tower Barracks Stable Archery Range Great Hall (Special Building) Siege Workshop Fortress Town Walls Wonder Goths Civic Center House Storehouse Farmstead/Granary Dock Temple Glory Statue Forge (aka "Blacksmith") Defense Tower Barracks Stable Archery Range Siege Workshop Fortress Town Walls Wonder Gameplay Suebians still use standard territorial gameplay, but have an ox cart dropsite. Later Goths will have more of a nomadic gameplay (like Huns or Scythians) with no territory. It would be interesting if Hyrule:Conquest's hero selection UI could be used to "split" the Goths into Visigoths and Ostrogoths. Art Needed Each one needs its own civ emblem. Unit head models with the "Suebian Knot" and beards for the Suebian units. New unit body and shield textures. Some new helmet models. New building art set.

Those trees too. Perhaps if we can get @LordGood to revamp the existing trees we can work on making the terrains better and then maybe someone like @elexis can help revamp the random maps. There's so much better content in the game now, these maps need to be updated.

Gonna add the lion and leopard skins?