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===[TASK]=== Hellenic Helmet - Part I


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Just made a corinthian helmet or at least something similar to give some love for the old 2010 helmets of the spartan units:

Not sure where i left my blender file with the first helmets so i started again and made 4 (+ checker) variants: A: B: C: D: E: I used as reference this (i

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4 hours ago, Alexandermb said:

Just made a corinthian helmet or at least something similar to give some love for the old 2010 helmets of the spartan units:

Helmets continued to be made from bronze, not iron. Also, the Corinthian helmet is more characteristic of the Archaic period (800-500 B.C.). In 0 A.D's timeframe most Greek hoplites preferred more open helmets such as the Illyrian, Chalcidian, and later Attic types. And Spartans frequently used the simple, conical pilos instead.

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44 minutes ago, Nescio said:

Helmets continued to be made from bronze, not iron. Also, the Corinthian helmet is more characteristic of the Archaic period (800-500 B.C.). In 0 A.D's timeframe most Greek hoplites preferred more open helmets such as the Illyrian, Chalcidian, and later Attic types. And Spartans frequently used the simple, conical pilos instead.

Most helmets would be bronze, but there are also many iron examples as well (I think none of Corinthian type though). Helmet transition to newer types would usually be gradual. During the Persian Wars and soon after (say about 500-450 bc) most (or at least many) hoplites would still use the Corinthian one. So I guess it would be accurate or not depending on which period we want to depict each civ or individual unit.

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I don't know exactly how wide-spread the Corinthian helmet was during our time-frame, but it was still widely used at the close of the 6th century BC and continued use in to the 5th century BC, which is definitely in our time-frame. 

These are all specifically 5th century BC examples as far as the descriptions were correct:

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The models look awesome m8. 

They're not necessarily "Spartan" helmets since any number of civs could use them. It would be great if you could remodel each of the about 10 variations in the game. Others are right that iron would probably be very rare until the 4th c BC and certainly not used on Corinthian helms. Also the bronze could be more yellowish to match the unit textures as my dude mentions above.

Regardless these look great so far. +1.

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we ought to have baked-in AO textures on head texture variants for different types of helmets, these in particular, don't you think?

shouldn't be too hard for a texture artist to edit the bronze textures to match, dont worry too much about that

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Some bronze textures I use @Alexandermb
The last one was made by Enrique from existing textures.

One thing you can do is use xnormal to bake curvature and follow the process described in this video with it.

See 18:48 and 20:14

Looking good so far but I agree with the others that the texture is too much different. Model looks great. Hopefully you'll be able to make use of what I said above to make it greater
 

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