Alexandermb Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just made a corinthian helmet or at least something similar to give some love for the old 2010 helmets of the spartan units: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladislavbelov Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Helmets are too different by colors from the rest model, isn't it? I think they should be a little bit lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 17/03/2018 at 10:08 AM, Alexandermb said: Just made a corinthian helmet or at least something similar to give some love for the old 2010 helmets of the spartan units: Expand Helmets continued to be made from bronze, not iron. Also, the Corinthian helmet is more characteristic of the Archaic period (800-500 B.C.). In 0 A.D's timeframe most Greek hoplites preferred more open helmets such as the Illyrian, Chalcidian, and later Attic types. And Spartans frequently used the simple, conical pilos instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) On 17/03/2018 at 2:51 PM, Nescio said: Helmets continued to be made from bronze, not iron. Also, the Corinthian helmet is more characteristic of the Archaic period (800-500 B.C.). In 0 A.D's timeframe most Greek hoplites preferred more open helmets such as the Illyrian, Chalcidian, and later Attic types. And Spartans frequently used the simple, conical pilos instead. Expand Most helmets would be bronze, but there are also many iron examples as well (I think none of Corinthian type though). Helmet transition to newer types would usually be gradual. During the Persian Wars and soon after (say about 500-450 bc) most (or at least many) hoplites would still use the Corinthian one. So I guess it would be accurate or not depending on which period we want to depict each civ or individual unit. Edited March 17, 2018 by Prodigal Son 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 I don't know exactly how wide-spread the Corinthian helmet was during our time-frame, but it was still widely used at the close of the 6th century BC and continued use in to the 5th century BC, which is definitely in our time-frame. These are all specifically 5th century BC examples as far as the descriptions were correct: Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfinn the Shallow Minded Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 For Spartans specifically it would be an appropriate type of helmet due to geography and Spartan conservatism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 The models look awesome m8. They're not necessarily "Spartan" helmets since any number of civs could use them. It would be great if you could remodel each of the about 10 variations in the game. Others are right that iron would probably be very rare until the 4th c BC and certainly not used on Corinthian helms. Also the bronze could be more yellowish to match the unit textures as my dude mentions above. Regardless these look great so far. +1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted March 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Been trying to get the bronze game look, didn't have luck yet maybe stanislas have a material saved somewhere in a blend file of the others helmets he committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted March 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Used a tutorial of youtube for make a bronze material: Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 we ought to have baked-in AO textures on head texture variants for different types of helmets, these in particular, don't you think? shouldn't be too hard for a texture artist to edit the bronze textures to match, dont worry too much about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Some bronze textures I use @Alexandermb The last one was made by Enrique from existing textures. One thing you can do is use xnormal to bake curvature and follow the process described in this video with it. See 18:48 and 20:14 Looking good so far but I agree with the others that the texture is too much different. Model looks great. Hopefully you'll be able to make use of what I said above to make it greater Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted March 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 17/03/2018 at 6:56 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: It would be great if you could remodel each of the about 10 variations in the game. Expand Wich are the other 10 variations ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 There's no need imo, what if we randomized the crests as props? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 17/03/2018 at 11:13 PM, LordGood said: There's no need imo, what if we randomized the crests as props? Expand There is more variety to the Corinthian line of helmets than just the crests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 17/03/2018 at 8:01 PM, Alexandermb said: Used a tutorial of youtube for make a bronze material: Reveal hidden contents Expand The black texture looks pretty cool for the Thespian Black Cloaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Yes.. Reveal hidden contents 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 @Alexandermb check https://code.wildfiregames.com/rP20769 there might be something to scavenge in those files (The crests at least, the other thing I don't what they are called too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted March 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Something like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted March 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 The snake metal should be same as the helmet or just steel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lion.Kanzen Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 On 18/03/2018 at 1:38 AM, Alexandermb said: The snake metal should be same as the helmet or just steel ? Expand Looks like diferente material or a kind of add-on. I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 More Corinthian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 @Alexandermb It would also be great if you can make a new bronze cuirass texture for the hoplites 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) On 18/03/2018 at 1:04 AM, Alexandermb said: Expand Niiiice. Edited March 18, 2018 by wowgetoffyourcellphone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) On 18/03/2018 at 3:04 AM, Lion.Kanzen said: Expand Thespians. Nice. Edited March 18, 2018 by wowgetoffyourcellphone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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