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Committed Reworked some of my previous textures from DE that was committed to the game New Celtic female textures New cape textures Review Basic Celtic unit textur

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The quote from Plutarch:

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Meanwhile the king of the Gauls espied him, and judging from his insignia that he was the commander, rode far out in front of the rest and confronted him, shouting challenges and brandishing his spear. His stature exceeded that of the other Gauls, and he was conspicuous for a suit of armour which was set off with gold and silver and bright colours and all sorts of broideries; it gleamed like lightning. Accordingly, as Marcellus surveyed the ranks of the enemy, this seemed to him to be the most beautiful armour, and he concluded that it was this which he had vowed to the god. He therefore rushed upon the man, and by a thrust of his spear which pierced his adversary's breastplate, and by the impact of his horse in full career, threw him, still living, upon the ground, where, with a second and third blow, he promptly killed him. Then leaping from his horse and laying his hands upon the armour of the dead, he looked towards heaven and said: "O Jupiter Feretrius, who beholdest the great deeds and exploits of generals and commanders in wars and fightings, I call thee to witness that I have overpowered and slain this man with my own hand, being the third Roman ruler and general so to slay a ruler and king, and that I dedicate to thee the first and most beautiful of the spoils. Do thou therefore grant us a like fortune as we prosecute the rest of the war."

Maybe we can add some golden and silver object on the cuirass?

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35 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

@Genava55 Would this work for Celtic druids?

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If the others don't find it problematic to give a chainmail armor to a priest unit, why not. I have no problem with this, it could have been the case. Some druids took the military leadership during the Gallic Wars.

However I find the texture of the cape/sagum a bit unesthetic at the bottom. Maybe a bit more on the side like this:

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47 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

@Genava55 Would this work for Celtic druids?

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I'm not really a fan of this outfit. Genava's suggestion might make it look better though. Maybe this variant of the druid could have pants instead of a dress, like the reference above ?

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16 minutes ago, stanislas69 said:

I'm not really a fan of this outfit. Genava's suggestion might make it look better though. Maybe this variant of the druid could have pants instead of a dress, like the reference above ?

That was my initial concept but it would make it hard to distinguish the healer for elite units if I switch to pants. What are your thoughts on this?

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Just now, wackyserious said:

That was my initial concept but it would make it hard to distinguish the healer for elite units if I switch to pants. What are your thoughts on this?

I have an idea. You know this headdress from Glauberg:
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It is actually an inspiration from sacred plant from the Celts. The mistletoe:

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Re-enactors have proposed this headdress for a chieftain:

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BUT, it could be a religious symbol used by the Druids as well, the mistletoe is known to be used by the Druids.

 

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20 minutes ago, stanislas69 said:

 Is it a full skull cap or just an headband ?

On the statue of Glauberg, it is a full cap. The symbol is also recurrent in the Celtic art on the continent, but it is impossible to say if it is a cap or a headband in these cases. A headband is plausible but the cap is the closer from the archeological material. 

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41 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

 

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I think the re-enactor and the warrior in the illustration wear it like this. It is a cape folded two or three times, put on the shoulder in half way and winded on the back and on the chest in direction of the belt to fix it. The two ends of the cape are on the same side. It is something re-enactors like to do because it is practical, comfy and it even protect the body.

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2 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

For recognizability sake, why not give him long white/grey hair and a beard? Might be a bit stereotypical, but considering the lack of detailed descriptions/depictions, why not? He should look a little mystical, no?

I personally prefer something more remote from Asterix and XIXth century romanticism representations. If we have the possibility to give a different vision of these cultures, it is something good to do.

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28 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

I personally prefer something more remote from Asterix and XIXth century romanticism representations. If we have the possibility to give a different vision of these cultures, it is something good to do.

Sure, no problem. I was just thinking of not letting the healer/priest unit look too much like a warrior (seen as the game is already full of warriors of every kind). You'll mostly be seeing them from a distance, zoomed out, which might make them even less recognizable.

What are your opinions on the Romano Cletic Hooded Spirits, Genii Cucullati, as an inspiration for the druids, or would that be inappropriate?

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That last one (Gallo Roman) might also represent Priapus 

  

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10 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

What are your opinions on the Romano Cletic Hooded Spirits, Genii Cucullati, as an inspiration for the druids, or would that be inappropriate?

The cucullus is an usual cloth, popular both among the Romans and the Gauls. The only unusual word related with the cucullus is bardocucullus, that could means something related to the bard (musician).

http://www.arbre-celtique.com/encyclopedie/cucullus-cuculla-manteau-314.htm

The three peoples with the cucullus are often three goddesses or nymphae. Xulsigiae. Related to the roman mythology as well (Matres and Matronae).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xulsigiae

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matres_and_Matronae

The problem is common with these figures. There are males representations, but often distinguishing the gender is hard. Moreover, the influence of the Roman can cause the gender to switch sometimes for some cult. There is a long debate in this article here:

http://archive.fo/xcqd

20 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

Sure, no problem. I was just thinking of not letting the healer/priest unit look too much like a warrior (seen as the game is already full of warriors of every kind). You'll mostly be seeing them from a distance, zoomed out, which might make them even less recognizable.

With an headdress like the one I proposed, it should be okay no?

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5 minutes ago, Thorfinn the Shallow Minded said:

As a similar point, I read that women were occasionally druids as well.  While I can't remember the book's title, it seemed academically legitimate enough to cite.  For those who are more familiar with druidism, I would appreciate your thoughts.  

It is a very debated and unresolved issue, with no true consensus. But generally there are a concordance of hints from Irish mythology and Classical accounts for a priestess role in the Celtic religion. Guyonvarc'h in his book thinks they are not druids since they never carry any sacrifice or any instruction. They are more related to the divination and invocation, like the germanic Vates. The problem is that some classical authors call them druids, but these accounts are very late and enigmatic (like Septimius Severus meeting one female druid) and several authors have confuse the different categories and mixed them in only one: the druids.

 

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