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===[COMMITTED]=== Siege Weapons Infantry Animations

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Nice! However, why does the packed version have soldiers with different helmets?

12 hours ago, Alexandermb said:

and will make the others siege weapons too

There are not that many; I'm only aware of six:

  • bolt shooters:
    • athen/cart/mace/spart oxybeles
    • ptol polybolos
    • rome scorpio
  • stone throwers (maybe assign three men each):
    • athen/mace/ptol/sele lithobolos
    • cart ballista
    • rome ballista
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in atlas when you switch from packed to unpacked the atlas think its another unit, however ingame they should keep the same helmet
PD: another one done.

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I love this! It does so much to bring the siege-engines alive... With the new siege-workshops and other new structures the next alpha will be amazing, if everything is implemented of course. 

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My humble critiques would be that some kind of differentiation on the polybolos crew with the spears could be needed, it feels like an infantry skirmishers (how it holds the bolt, specially when moving), maybe having a bag or carrying the bolts like how the wood is carried by workers.

And then projectile for the oxybeles, needs a new model, right? 

 

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And sorry for the double post, but I think this is needed: with the siege units with crew, projectile hit sound and animation, siege will look very cool and alive!

Kudos for all the team!

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Polybolos is magazine fed, so projectiles were probably not too much bigger than a javelin to fit. That also means the loader here is liable to get his fingers thwacked off since it shoots automatically when wound back lol

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9 hours ago, LordGood said:

Polybolos is magazine fed, so projectiles were probably not too much bigger than a javelin to fit. That also means the loader here is liable to get his fingers thwacked off since it shoots automatically when wound back lol

If only the Polybolos could fire, say 10 projectiles rapidly over maybe 8 seconds, and then take 10 seconds or so to load a new magazine. That would be cool. 

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Was thinking about the projectile bags of some weapons but i guess i leave those to the art team with better documentation and the space/speed of the polybolos didn't leave much time to prepare the projectile like the kart ballista, similar case is the scorpio, the fast fire speed don't leave time to put the projectile in the sling however i tried to make 3 or 7 seconds of wait time to put the projectile but the file had some "file marked as bad" and didn't worked so i leave just make the operator play "Aim ready fire".

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22 hours ago, LordGood said:

Polybolos is magazine fed, so projectiles were probably not too much bigger than a javelin to fit. That also means the loader here is liable to get his fingers thwacked off since it shoots automatically when wound back lol

Yeah, I know that the bolts of polyobolos could be small, I was talking more about how to hold them. But I think that the normal oxybeles need a new projectile rather than that model that looks like a stake (maybe it's historical correct, I don't know)

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I tried a Seleucid Lithobolos on 0abc.

The animation is showing the loaded stone being catapulted up to the units end but the stone that is being ultimately thrown is the one that is in the hands of the loader. 

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Yes yes, I think there is room for improvement, but this is a huge step up from the ghost weapons we had lol. Keep an eye on the actors to make sure we don't have freaky vertex groups flying all willy-nilly. That goes for the gastraphetes as well, I don't know if there is a mesh issue with that one though.

all in all, well done @Alexandermb !

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 @Alexandermb I get errors when applying your patch, can you fix it ?

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0 A.D. (0.0.23) Main log (warnings and errors only)

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_common' of entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_common' of entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_ballista_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/cart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_common' of entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_common' of entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_common' of entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_common' of entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_ballista_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_common' of entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_common' of entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/rome_mechanical_siege_scorpio_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_common' of entity template 'units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed'

ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "simulation/templates/special_units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common.xml"

ERROR: Failed to load parent 'special_units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_common' of entity template 'units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

ERROR: Failed to load entity template 'units/spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked'

Engine exited successfully on 2017-11-12 at 22:36:11 with 494 message(s), 72 error(s) and 0 warning(s).

 

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