Achaemenid Persians and Median

[Lion.Kanzen]

Edited February 11, 2018 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

[Lion.Kanzen]

[Alexandermb]

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/photos/U04-Achaemenian3/index.htm

persian quiver is called gorytos.

[Nescio]

2 hours ago, Alexandermb said:

persian quiver is called gorytos.

Actually, “gorytos” is the Greek word for the Indo-Iranian (Scythian, Median, Persian, etc.) bow-case, which was used to store the recurved bow, and, presumably, also the arrows. (A quiver does not contain a bow, only arrows.) E.g. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/PazyrikHorseman.JPG has his bow stowed away in his gorytos.

Furthermore:

• the “sagaris” is the Indo-Iranian battle-axe
• the “acinaces” is the Indo-Iranian short sword (or large dagger, as depicted), which possibly evolved into the Greek “xiphos”
• Persians used the Greek “kopis” (or “makhaira”) single-edged sword as well, which was similar in shape to the Iberian “falcata” (a 19th C name), in name to the Egyptian “khopesh”, and in function to both

  14 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

  

  This man has both a kopis in his hand and an acinaces in the sabbard.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

3 hours ago, Alexandermb said:

This looks like a purely fictional unit to me.

[Alexandermb]

1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

This looks like a purely fictional unit to me.

what about the others references on the link ? they are plenty, sadly i couldn't say wich one is accurate.

[Sundiata]

@Alexandermb I think the other references (all of them) are pretty good, with the exception of that face-armour :/. I searched and searched, but I couldn't find any references for that type of mask dating to the Achaemenid Persian era. They seem to become popular during the Parthian and Sassanid era, and are very common for late medieval Persia, but not the achaemenids apparently... 

I must note, by the time that Alexander invades, Greek mercenaries and their equipment were commonly used by the Achaemenids, so it's even unlikely that there weren't at least some of those face armours around, I just haven't seen any evidence.

Edited February 11, 2018 by Sundiata

[Alexandermb]

17 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

 

 

 

 

What about this crown @Sundiata ? should it be a must have now ? with parallax

[Sundiata]

Just now, Alexandermb said:

should it be a must have now ?

Hahaha, lol, why not, I guess that one's open to interpretation:

Darius & Xerxes:

 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

17 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Helmet/mask looks Sassanid, as Sundiata mentioned.

[Sundiata]

 

@wowgetoffyourcellphone That helmet itself is Sarmatian I believe, which would be ok. It's just the face armour/mask that's conjecture. 

@Alexandermb & @wackyserious, I hope this helps a little. A collection of what I think are pretty historically accurate images of the Persian army during 0AD's timeframe. Remember they use mercenaries from all over, including Sarmatians, Scythians, Greeks, Indians, Egyptians, even "Aethiopians", so that also influenced their army composition and equipment over time.

Brace yourselves:

The Achaemenid Persian Army:

Spoiler

 

Not really sure about those horse armours, they look Parthian.. Still pretty cool..

 

 

 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Sundiata

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

21 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

This is incredible!

[Nescio]

One thing to be aware of is that the Persian army of 480 B.C., as described by Herodotus, was already very different from the Persian army of 400 B.C., as described by Xenophon.

Just now, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

This is incredible!

It's basically a modern redrawing of the Alexander mosaic:

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

1 minute ago, Nescio said:

It's basically a modern redrawing of the Alexander mosaic:

 

YOU DON'T SAY

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

https://ethicallychallenged.deviantart.com/ <--- Get this guy to make main menu backgrounds.

Others: 

https://jasonjuta.deviantart.com/

 

Edited February 11, 2018 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[wackyserious]

1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

https://ethicallychallenged.deviantart.com/ <--- Get this guy to make main menu backgrounds.

I admire this guy.

[Stan`]

I'll send them an e-mail.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

3 minutes ago, stanislas69 said:

I'll send them an e-mail.

ec is a professional, but there's no harm in getting a round quote for a brief. Might want to discuss with @LordGood first.

[Stan`]

Whoops too late

[LordGood]

Commissioned artwork would take a serious chunk out of our treasury and spoils the whole point open sourcing. 

I would not push the point

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

16 minutes ago, LordGood said:

I would not push the point

Ban me.

[LordGood]

I didn't mean to me, pestering professional illustrators is not a good way to network. 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

1 minute ago, LordGood said:

I didn't mean to me, pestering professional illustrators is not a good way to network. 

Well, they'll never be a part of 0 a.d.'s network, so it's more of just a waste of time than building a damaged network.

[LordGood]

What? No, this is a matter of respect. You don't try to pry art out of artists for exposure or pocket change. Professionals like EC will likely charge more than the team will be willing to part with for a MM background.