Stan` Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Yes awesome ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 @stanislas69 should seleucus nikator feathers be player color? Spoiler i'm thinking on use those feathers as props for the phrygian helmets aswell. Also baked again the laurel with less leaves. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Could be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Last update for comitting: Used Seleucus helmet crest as another crest variant for phrygian. Made Whole seleucus helmet props player color. increased variation mixing helmet props. replaced helmet actor properties with variants. Should the red & blue textures/actors be committed or leaved in this topic as a separated .zip file?. Blend file for the art repo since nothing else should be modified in the file:0.A.D Hellenic_Phrygian.blend Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Often i read something about macedonian cavalry using phrygian helmets pre- Alexander but then replaced by actual used boetian helmet any cavalry would use the phrygian helmets? @Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Files whitout R&B variants:Phrygian_Helmets.7z Files only including R&B variants:Phrygian_Helmets_Red&Blue.7z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Alexandermb said: Often i read something about macedonian cavalry using phrygian helmets pre- Alexander but then replaced by actual used boetian helmet any cavalry would use the phrygian helmets? @Sundiata I read the same thing Apparently Alexander used Xenophon's works, particularly Anabasis, as a field guide during his expedition into Persia. In his work Περὶ ἱππικῆς (peri hippikēs), "on horsemanship", Xenophon advcates for the use of the Boeotian helmet: "...the Boeotian type [of helmet]. For this not only gives the greatest protection to all the parts above the cuirass, but allows free vision.", which explains Alexander's choice. If the units level up, maybe you could use Phrygian helmets for the second level (representing Phillip's cavalry) and the Boeotian helmet for the third level (representing Alexander's cav). Or just use the Boeotian one with a very low prevalence of Phrygian ones mixed in (like 1/10). Or just don't use the Phrygian one at all for Macedonian cav? Edited January 19, 2019 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, Sundiata said: I read the same thing Apparently Alexander used Xenophon's works, particularly Anabasis, as a field guide during his expedition into Persia. In his work Περὶ ἱππικῆς (peri hippikēs), "on horsemanship", Xenophon advcates for the use of the Boeotian helmet: "...the Boeotian type [of helmet]. For this not only gives the greatest protection to all the parts above the cuirass, but allows free vision.", which explains Alexander's choice. If the units level up, maybe you could use Phrygian helmets for the second level (representing Phillip's cavalry) and the Boeotian helmet for the third level (representing Alexander's cav). Or just use the Boeotian one with a very low prevalence of Phrygian ones mixed in (like 1/10). Or just don't use the Phrygian one at all for Macedonian cav? Maybe not using cav at all then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, Alexandermb said: Maybe not using cav at all then Yeah, there's not really a reason to use them for cav... They seem horrendously un-aerodynamic for high speed cav manoeuvres anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidan Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Will get Black Cloak Champions (Athenians & Spartians) Phrygian Helmets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 @Lion.Kanzen was going to move the talk to this topic but ended deleting it . In any case, something like this? References: Spoiler Spoiler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Helmet on blender unit: Spoiler Helmet on Atlas: Spoiler Note: Was done in less than 1 hour 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) quedaron excelentes hasta para hacer iconos con ellos. Edited July 24, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Helmet baked with the material i used for the FN-SCAR: Spoiler Hele_phrygian_b2 Spoiler NEW: Hele_phrygian_b3 For seleucid infantry_mercenary_swordsman_e Spoiler Infantry: Spoiler Reference: Spoiler 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 And the silver variant of the hele_phrygian_b2: Spoiler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 The Thracian faction for Terra Magna is so much blessed with art assets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Hele_phrygian_b4 Spoiler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Quote Tipo de casco tracio y fue descubierto de la tierra de la aldea de Pletena, Blagoevgradsko, http://legio-iiii-scythica.com/index.php/bg/2015-05-16-19-29-35/2015-05-16-19-53-07.html?showall=1 https://www.europeana.eu/portal/bg/record/2021502/jspui_handle_pub_133.html I need help with Russian language. Edited July 24, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Hele_phrygian_b5 + already done masks: Spoiler Spoiler And the silver variant: Spoiler Infantry: Spoiler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 hele_phrygian/thracian_b6: Spoiler hele_phrygian/thracian_s5 Spoiler Missing check_guards: Spoiler 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Aren't there such helmets already? E.g. `art/actors/props/units/heads/thracian_mercenary.xml`? By the way, is there any particular reason why so many (most?) helmet files are located under heads/ rather than helmets/? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Nescio said: Aren't there such helmets already? E.g. `art/actors/props/units/heads/thracian_mercenary.xml`? By the way, is there any particular reason why so many (most?) helmet files are located under heads/ rather than helmets/? Yes but very old shape (old head shape) outdated helmets are located in head folder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 hele_phrygian_b7/s7 Based on Mace hero "Phillip" Spoiler Reference; Spoiler Missing checkguards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 not purely phrygian. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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