Lion.Kanzen Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Reveal hidden contents look very Achaemenid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Edited April 27, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Anyone knows from where come this helmet? I found some evidences that could be useful. Reveal hidden contents I found this number 21 below, the other ones are all labeled "Scythian" and this one is labeled Achaemenid, without specifying the reason. I don't find anything about an example in the "Glasgow Museum". It looks close the number 18 although. Reveal hidden contents There is also this helmet found in Olympia attributed to the Medians: Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 27/04/2019 at 2:57 PM, Genava55 said: Anyone knows from where come this helmet? I found some evidences that could be useful. Reveal hidden contents I found this number 21 below, the other ones are all labeled "Scythian" and this one is labeled Achaemenid, without specifying the reason. I don't find anything about an example in the "Glasgow Museum". It looks close the number 18 although. Reveal hidden contents There is also this helmet found in Olympia attributed to the Medians: Reveal hidden contents Expand Scythian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) very asian influence. Kuban type. Quote This is a type of Scythian skullcap helmet made of bronze, referred to as “Kuban” by scholars (deriving from the name of the Caucasus region from which the largest numbers of specimens were found). They were developed during the 7th and 6th centuries BC and were lighter than contemporary Greek helmets. The helmet’s precise origin is still debated: the known examples are relatively few, but the sites where these helmets were found cover a wide area, ranging from the more western regions (Kelermes, west of the Caucasus) to modern-day Mongolia (Samarkand, Uzbekistan and up to Egiin Gol, in Mongolia). The Scythians were known for their horsemanship and the defensive equipment of a Scythian warrior was minimal and mainly limited to shields that could be carried while riding or in hand-to-hand combat. Their abilty to launch a sudden attack and withdraw quickly was their best defense, hence their light weapons, easy to handle (e.g. a bow and arrow, a sword, and possibly a shield). Scythian helmets, breastplates and “cnemids” (leg guards) are therefore rather rare. The top of this helmet has a small loop which was most likely designed as a support for a crest or another ornament. The precise meaning of the circular holes pierced just above the edge is open to different interpretations: they might have served to attach other protective elements (for the shoulders and the back), or even decorative elements, as evidenced by an example found in the Kelermes tumulus no. 2 (south of modern-day Russia), which was adorned with gold diadems. The inner cap might have also been held in place by threads or straps passing through these holes. Expand Helmets "sakskskih" Types Kuban Edited April 27, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) i never found the names of each... by the way check this other have many... https://andvari5.livejournal.com/20238.html Edited April 27, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherbushido Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just for information in case that was forgotten (I didn't read it, so no intention behind posting the link) https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/ArtDesignDocument#PlayerColor Btw all that is beautiful 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Was it a bad idea to put player color on the Kidaris? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 yes... with darkest color doesn't work fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 I bet @wowgetoffyourcellphone would not be happy to see this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Why god, why 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 1:00 AM, wackyserious said: I bet @wowgetoffyourcellphone would not be happy to see this Expand many colors many flavours. strawberry, grape , pineapple and lime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 What is going on here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 9:04 AM, stanislas69 said: What is going on here ? Expand A dilemma whether to include the following: Toned down saturation of the red and yellow dyed padded cloth Player color Kidaris cap Player color padded cloth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 9:11 AM, wackyserious said: A dilemma whether to include the following: Toned down saturation of the red and yellow dyed padded cloth Player color Kidaris cap Player color padded cloth Expand And why would it be an issue for wowgetoffyourcellphone (seriously could have chosen a simpler name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 27/04/2019 at 11:28 PM, wackyserious said: Expand I think these look really great! On 28/04/2019 at 9:11 AM, wackyserious said: Player color Kidaris cap Expand Why not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 @stanislas69 That was back when I added player color to the Kushite padded cloth which he was not a fan of (also full player color linothorax) I was kinda joking him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 9:36 AM, Sundiata said: Why not? Expand Like Lion, I also find it quite distracting for the eye. I am not sure about the others though, which is why I was asking for feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 According to https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/ArtDesignDocument which I started to update a bit locally: '"Colors on the units should be neutral (skin tones, browns, grays, golds, bronze, etc...), because bright and saturated color will be used as a player’s color to show ownership. Player color usually is found on decorative elements of a texture." Entities should have "[a]bove average color saturation (compared to the real world)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 10:09 AM, stanislas69 said: According to https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/ArtDesignDocument which I started to update a bit locally: '"Colors on the units should be neutral (skin tones, browns, grays, golds, bronze, etc...), because bright and saturated color will be used as a player’s color to show ownership. Player color usually is found on decorative elements of a texture." Entities should have "[a]bove average color saturation (compared to the real world)." Expand I have read it too, but this contrasts with faction design (colorful palette for Celtic and Persian faction) and existing textures i.e. current padded cloth texture for the Persians. This too adds to the dilemma.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Here is how the player color Kidaris cap looks like on the infantry archer textures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Those colourful screenshots look great, although they're not as clear as the simple player-colour in Age of Empires: On 15/04/2019 at 11:40 PM, Lion.Kanzen said: Expand or Cossacks: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 But they are more historically accurate 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 See, this is our dilemma.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 9:55 AM, wackyserious said: Like Lion, I also find it quite distracting for the eye. I am not sure about the others though, which is why I was asking for feedback. Expand in black color details will be lost but... Im talking judging a static image. becomes an kind of camouflage. so the hat look Ortodox priest with persian costumes. Reveal hidden contents 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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