===[TASK]=== Kushite Units, Unit Textures, and Unit Props

[wackyserious]

@Sundiata Thoughts?

I saw something similar in the chariot mural depiction of the Kushites which you have posted.

[Alexandermb]

On 28/1/2018 at 3:48 PM, Lion.Kanzen said:

Looks petty fun to animate those gentlemen in the top. @Alexandermb

its planned that unit ?

[Lion.Kanzen]

4 minutes ago, Alexandermb said:

its planned that unit ?

Yes, its planned have a elephant with different actors (garrisoned in the tower) . but is an featured not full implemented. similar to wall units.

[Sundiata]

20 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

Thoughts?

I saw something similar in the chariot mural depiction of the Kushites which you have posted.

I like it. Those chariot murals were New Kingdom Egyptian (in Kush) though, but fabrics don't survive well, and coloured reliefs from Kush are extremely rare (Sudan is in the rain-belt, so it all just melts away after a while), So Egyptian colour references are fair-game in my opinion (can't think of anything better actually).

 

2 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Yes, its planned have a elephant with different actors (garrisoned in the tower) . but is an featured not full implemented. similar to wall units.

Those elephant animations in general would be useful for every faction with elephants, by the way...

[Sundiata]

@wackyserious Try to use this as your main reference for horses. Especially where those decorative bands are located around the neck, across it's chest, across the sides and back of the horse. For tiers, you can play around with the material of the bands (leather, bronze, silver), and the amount and shape (solid band, row of discs, row of rectangular plates). 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2018 by Sundiata

[wackyserious]

3 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

@wackyserious Try to use this as your main reference for horses. Especially where those decorative bands are located around the neck, across it's chest, across the sides and back of the horse. For tiers, you can play around with the material of the bands (leather, bronze, silver), and the amount. 

 

 

I believe Alexandermb and the others wants such details as props since adding them in the horse texture is quite a messy process. I'm thinking of sprawling a rectangular mesh around the neck and letting alpha meshes or what you call it do the job.

[Sundiata]

@Alexandermb do you think you can come up with something for the horses, like in the above picture? Props for decorative bands around the neck, chest, sides and back of the horse.. Relatively tight fitting..

[Stan`]

Better if included in the texture.

[Sundiata]

Could someone provide me with a clean texture and another texture with stuff worked in + screenshot of the 3d model horse with stuff, so I know how it turns out and can figure out what goes where on the texture? Horse textures seems complicated, but I want to give it a shot.

[Alexandermb]

4 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

@Alexandermb do you think you can come up with something for the horses, like in the above picture? Props for decorative bands around the neck, chest, sides and back of the horse.. Relatively tight fitting..

for now its better on texture, adding as a prop will mean it will clip or another solution could be export another horse mesh with neck prop point (similar to head) and see how behaves with the animations, same as the chest/side decorations, could be texture or could be added similar to the horse armors enrique did using the same skeleton and variants.

[Lion.Kanzen]

That texture looks unpleasant with units, look weird, what you think @wackyserious

[wackyserious]

5 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

That texture looks unpleasant with units, look weird, what you think @wackyserious

The design is tentative. Yeah, it casts a high level of distraction but those are based on Egyptian reliefs depicting the Kushites.

@Sundiata You can look at the horse textures in the public mod to have an idea on the layout. cavalry horse textures are also there.

[Sundiata]

@wackyserious, @stanislas69, could I see what this looks like on our horses? Before I take it any further...

 

[wackyserious]

@Sundiata Some problems on the upper part of the front limbs

@stanislas69 Minor clipping on the back part of the new bronze skull cap.

[Sundiata]

19 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

Some problems on the upper part of the front limbs

Thank you sooo much! I was working blind so now see how it's actually applied.. I'll make some more serious drafts very soon   

[Stan`]

@wackyserious For clipping, there is not much I can do, It's because @Alexandermb animations move the prop point incorrectly it seems.

Lazy fix would be a cavalry special skullcap

[Alexandermb]

1 hour ago, stanislas69 said:

@wackyserious For clipping, there is not much I can do, It's because @Alexandermb animations move the prop point incorrectly it seems.

Lazy fix would be a cavalry special skullcap

tell me the files exactly to recreate them on blender and see where they clip

[Lion.Kanzen]

This beyond a mod, @elexis ? this only needs finish art and then try to balance with the other factions, and it's ready, more than Chinese, even Seleucids.

[Sundiata]

@wackyserious, or anyone who can, could you try out Kush horse texture v2.0 and give me another screenshot please?

[Stan`]

58 minutes ago, Alexandermb said:

tell me the files exactly to recreate them on blender and see where they clip

Just download this mesh -> https://github.com/0ADMods/kushites/blob/master/art/meshes/props/helmet/kush_skull_cap.dae

[wackyserious]

@Sundiata Horse UV map is really tricky.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Isn't there a program or method that can warp a texture to give an output that doesn't look warped on the model?

[Sundiata]

@wackyserious, version 3.0 (should minimise some of the warping), other minor adjustments..

 

Edited February 1, 2018 by Sundiata

[Stan`]

2 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Isn't there a program or method that can warp a texture to give an output that doesn't look warped on the model?

Doing it in Blender you can paint in there.

[Sundiata]

@stanislas69 could you perhaps apply the v3.0 texture to the horse so I can see if the adjustments worked? Then I can finish it and continue making simpler versions for citizen cav.