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yeah we got cooked.

@ValihrAnt OP

Also, please anyone leave some thoughts on the current naval balance. I haven't seen much naval gameplay, so I don't know what to change.

https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad-community-mod-a26/pulls Here's a list of patches for the next version of the community mod. Feel free to leave comments. A short list: Champions trained from special buildings and temples train 25% faster carth sacred cav moved back to temple as a test. This is intended to greatly improve the viability of champions that come from buildings other than the barracks and stable. Han champ building cheaper 300s, 300m -> 200s, 200m loom 150 f -> 100 f team vision tech added to the market, still available in from the cc. Walls can be built over trees, destroying the trees upon completion (Thanks @Grapjas) Archer class buff: 0.2 more damage and +0.1 move speed for infantry archers. Han Crossbow buff: +1 pierce damage and +0.4 move speed (9.6 was very close to melee move speed) Ram armor rebalance: 50 pierce armor -> 30, 6 hack -> 7. Sparta adjustments: slightly longer train time for neodamodes (reduce spam) Champion train time penalty removed Syssition cost 200s, 200m -> 150s, 150 Champions in p1 hopefully more viable Champ move speed tech in p1 and cheaper. Macedonians arsenal available in p2, bolts available p2. (in a27) Romans update (in a27) fertility festival is not needed to train women from houses (civ bonus) unique tech: roman roads, global 5% movement speed buff. unique tech: marian reforms: Converts citizen soldiers to legionary infantry, which are rank 3 legionaries and lanciarius may be trained from production buildings with an cost profile of 50 food 50 wood, 15 metal. Centurions may be trained from the fortress Onager unlocked from the arsenal (Area of effect siege) I will add the athenian differentiation soon: https://code.wildfiregames.com/D3727

Yeah I guess this circles back to the boom = turtle discussion. I think 0ad needs a both more opportunities for early aggression and more means to counter said early aggression. That is to say add a bit more risk and reward with regard to booming.

@Stan` how will the gitea version be set up for releases? Will there be some actions related to signing and uploading to modio? There are a handful of things I could put together into a new community mod release.

Really? Nice work! Where/When did you do that? https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad-community-mod-a26 cool! its nice that these will be kind of centralized. Maybe we can make a branch a27, make it compatible with 0addev and merge it over at some point? That would be pretty slick. ^Although there would be a lot of file overlap, as in some cases, community mod features are just a27 stuff added for testing.

Well it should probably need to be a separate instance though right? You don't want a lot of unnecessary files. I am working on a couple of mods and two of them use GitLab, which i've found pretty intuitive and easy to get started on. The nice thing is you can just clone the repository you are working on right into your mods folder. If you host feldmap for future development, i'd be happy to contribute!

maybe if you cloned right into the svn directory?

I don't want to repeat the other 3 threads. See those and please move your last paragraph to the discussion @chrstgtr linked. I'll also admit that like you, I Iost my cool. However, I made no mention of your other games and I did not call you that word. I said "I have perfectly good GAME KNOWLEDGE, what I lack is PRACTICE, dumba**" I was discussing your mod with a player and you joined as I was writing. Just seeing that I was discussing progui made you explode, with some insults I found shocking because you had previously been polite. When you attacked my work, character, and intelligence, saying I shouldn't change the game because I am a noob with "No game knowledge," I simply had to fire back some shots. All this being said, lets all save this discussion for its real purpose please.

Press X to doubt. Geriatrix was the first player I have ever seen take a game hostage like this. I've never seen the equivalent behavior before. I think you're in the wrong discussion pal. Also you are massively exaggerating and contorting the truth again here. Simple discussion of your mod with players that are acting superstitious is not harassment. You only hate me and @BreakfastBurrito_007 because we make good arguments against your mod that you cannot refute. If your ethos here was genuine, you would be going after those that relentlessly insulted you with actual insults like Geriatrix himself.

I don't think so @wackyserious These look really cool!

That's actually laughable that you would contort the truth like that, so I'd like to hear evidence. My only recollection tells me that he encouraged hosts to mandate that you turn the autotrainer off in order to play. I think I did so once too. Only one common host has forced you to turn it off. That's a little bit different than griefing an entire game AFTER it has started, actually even 15 or 20 minutes in. And he tried to do it every time I join a game he is in as spec. One time he literally left and never came back so they had to re. And the grass is blue. Why do you feel the need to defend Geriatrix to the point you will lie like this.

He says "lier breaking 0AD". He and a couple of other players are mistakenly convinced that @BreakfastBurrito_007 is developing the game or at least the community mod.

Its quite vertically oriented

yeah I think this would be really helpful for Han crossbows in particular. When 50+ crossbows all shoot 1 unit because its a tiny bit closer than the others, its effectively almost 4 seconds of no damage dealt by the crossbows. I'm looking forward to porting it over to the gitea

Hmm, I ran across that earlier as well. However, I did find some nice bells and whistles in VS that seem to streamline the workflow well! So I'll be able to start adding my existing patches as PRs.

So we will fetch upstream and rebase each time we want to make a change? It seems like a bit of a chore compared to svn and I'm sure I will mess that up frequently. Although, maybe i'll get used to it. Is there really no way to just automatically update the our fork with 0ad/0ad?

good eye!

How do you suggest we keep our forks up to date? Syncing? make it a mirror? I can't seem to set up a push mirror.

Yes, this became pretty apparent to me when I went back and looked at alphas 8 - 12.

I see our phabricator accounts are registered, as I tried to sign in. Are we allowed to sign in yet? If so, I think I locked myself out XD. Btw, it looks super clean and organized. Well done @Itms and others!!

https://github.com/0ad/0ad This is it right?

Yeah I think its just a matter of where to place said if check. I'll raise an 'issue' or however it will be done on the git instance.

Haha no, I'd like to think that. It was actually working after all, its just the Aura tooltip is there whether or not the aura is actually in effect.