Gurken Khan

Sure, not the stone-age, but with those few people and only one building in the beginning I wouldn't call them fully established either. I probably only wasn't clear enough about what I meant; ofc there's no problem with being able to adjust the map size. I normally play with randomly picked maps, and then, of course, if I don't know what map is going to come up I can't make preemptive adjustments. Probably should change that approach anyway, guess I'm currently missing out on naval maps... Just put up an extra storehouse. Anyway, I'm fine with blue cav being able to hunt anything, including chickens. I don't know if the suggestions in the OP would add much to the gaming experience, while it certainly would change the current eco. And while the current eco might be full of inaccuracies and peculiarities, I wouldn't really know where to start or end or really make a meaningful suggestion.

I don't wanna argue now over those ~few thousands of years. But the starting CC and the initial nine units are actually the beginning of our civ in the game... Ofc I wasn't 100% serious. But I did read suggestions for provisions and ammo. Isn't collecting some rocks for slingers also trivial? I think my settings are fine for most maps, while adjusting the size of certain maps doesn't really go together with 'random'. Hm. I think this pretty much comes down to your preferences, especially wanting to change how mines work. For me, control of the deposits is already important, and my whole 'game plan' might center around making sure I have enough minerals (metal, mainly). While I do feel a bit of your town planner's pain, I basically go with 'fff' (form follows function), and whatever is pressing at the moment. As for your last sentence, I believe there are plenty of historic examples for settlements starting, thriving and dying depending on the available mining.

Maybe 'at the dawn of civilization' (which the beginning of p1 could represent) horsemen weren't that decadent/social roles were not that differentiated and everyone just pitched in what they could? I think it's nice to have some animals around to get started, and I frankly don't care too much if it's chickens or goats, sheep... Whenever I read 'realism' in this forum, I wonder when I will have to take care of what goes into my units (water?), and what comes out of them (latrines!). Oh, and those sore feet! And the STDs. And all the invalids turned beggars... Gee, do you have some terrible ideas! There's already some maps (that are supposed to be 'interesting' I guess, with uneven terrain like Hellas or Lower Nubia ...), where building already is a real pain; with bigger farms I'd probably just stop playing those. And I'm fine with some starting minerals. After all, I imagine my peeps had a reason to build their CC where they did; though historically I believe the main thing would've been (fresh) water...

@BardockSSJLEvery answer to each of your questions could begin with 'It depends on...' (civ/map/type of game/enemies). You might want to set the enemy AI to 'very easy' and reduce the game speed. To give you an idea on how to start, here's what I usually do: - set civ and map to random - send my 1st cav scouting, produce 3 more to scout the whole map; that's an expensive luxury, but I can afford that against very easy AI. - send two females to berries - send 1 female and 1 melee soldier to build a storehouse, other melee unit to build a house next to it; have all 3 chop the same tree afterward (women inspire men to work faster) - send the last female and my 2 ranged soldiers to cut wood at the CC - immediately research the 1st wood-cutting tech when the storehouse is up/I have 200 wood - produce another 6 women ASAP to gather food - produce as many women as possible to cut wood - when I have wood coming in sufficiently, I send my two ranged units and their cheerleader to start building towers; depending on the urgency I might make a few more ranged units to help. Sometimes they also build houses in between, sometimes I have 1 or 2 women do that. - when the berries run low, I build a farmstead and have 2 women build 2 fields, so when the berries are out I ideally have 2 fully loaded fields (with the 8 women from the berries) and the first farming tech already researched. When there are more berries in my territory I build another farmstead and research wicker baskets first. - build barracks when I can afford them - research baskets when I can afford it Typically I have ~30 units gather wood and 30-35 women farming (6-7 fields) when I phase up. In P2 I try to get the gathering techs for wood and food first, then start mass producing soldiers for stone and metal gathering (+ cheerleaders) and get the other gathering techs. Make more women for food and wood as needed. And of course pesky neighbors can interrupt all those plans...

Hello typons! I never tried MP myself, but if you search the forum for 'firewall' you will find threads saying you'll need to open that UDP port 20595. And you might have to whitelist 0AD in the firewall and/or antivirus. hth

For now that seems to be the solution. The most common suggestions for crashes are to turn off GLSL and post processing; at least it works for you, I still have frequent crashes.

Yeah, or trees next to hills, or trees in walls, or trees too far in the water. It can be quite annoying. Workers look busy and don't show as idle but don't cut any wood. Sometimes the tree as such is ok, like for one worker, but the territory/angle is weird and so the workers all block each others' path...

Do you maybe have to whitelist 0AD in the Windows Defender?

Yeah, know that plenty. Never thought it might be hero-related. Also no mods. Turned off the usual suspects in the graphics settings. Alas! To no avail...

They're just tired of your $#!+ because they're soldiers and you make'em dance!

It's painful to watch whenever melee units try to kill sth that's moving...

I watched the replay of the first part of that game above: all units were working correctly, so I assume there was a problem with an earlier loaded save file. And the game crashed again, again I have no additional info to provide. If maybe @stanislas69or someone else has another idea about this memory leak suspicion...?

What about Iphikrates? He gives bonuses to formations. I agree formations are broken. I train units in batches and use control groups, so no I have no real 'manspam train' and at least a bit of order on the battlefield.

Don't know what's up with this Phoenician Levante map: Logs didn't show anything, but clearly something's not right when ~all workers are just standing around... savegame-2652.zip

:/ Displayed time was 19:03 (close to that 20min mark I mentioned before), which on turtle speed actually means >3hrs. Dunno why the mainlog updated at the time of the crash (nothing interesting in there), but the other logs again didn't catch $#!+:

I'm afraid that's not a complete reproduction of events. First you selected them, then you told them to go somewhere, then you issued the build order. Did you by any chance hold the shift key at step three? If so I'd suggest trying build orders without the shift. Edit: And if not, maybe try to send the units only close to the building spot, but not on it, so there'll be no walking on and off the foundation.

@stanislas69Would that be the same as resource leaks? I speculated on that before, but didn't get any reaction...

I think I never had a crash when trying to load a saved game. I'm certain I'll have that out of memory thing again soonish, I'll upload the dump then. Summary/step by step: play >20 mins with my settings -> crash.

So, someone has encouraged me to report every crash; I had another of these: When I accidentally started two instances of the game I got: Should that be an unhandled exception? --- Even easier: I can change the title directly on every page of this thread. FYI --- I feel like the GUI could really use some keyboard commands. For example, in the Load Game menu I'd like - to be able to use the arrow keys to navigate the list - every button to have a shortcut assigned - the most common option to be pre-selected

IDK if it's just us, but I know that too. I tried formations yesterday, and it was every bit as unsatisfying as I remembered it. First I tried a Phalanx, which caused the involved pikemen to turn back (instead of towards the other units/their previous destination) and block a choke point (which I didn't want). Then I tried an open formation which made the involved units too dumb to move properly, also I couldn't queue commands. So even though I had a leader giving a bonus to formations I decided to do without it...

No. I could add a tally in my thread of 'pyrogenesis.exe has stopped working' incidents, but I really didn't see a point of reporting every crash if there's no new info from it. Unless you tell me that each mention alone will totally and positively motivate the developers to work on stability. :)

Hello Maxiboom, welcome to the forum. Unfortunately 0AD isn't very stable, I had two games crashed just today. :/ You could try to check if your antivirus is maybe interfering and whitelist 0AD.

Did he use a birch?

My experience with Steam was infuriating and thus very short lived. I bought a new laptop and just grabbed a Civ V disk to go along (I really loved Civ III). The game wasn't fit to publish in its release state, the Steam software made my whole system 'fishy', the offline mode didn't work, often when I wanted to play I had to do Gigabytes of updates first, when Steam servers didn't answer I couldn't play the game I bought on a disk... So yeah, screw them and everybody like them.

@AlexandermbEnts?