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Food is the slowest resource to collect, easiest to interrupt, hardest to defend, and most difficult to relocate. If you regularly have too much food it’s because your economy is mismanaged. I agree with @Player of 0AD here. Fana don’t do particularly well in inf fights. But they shine in games where the enemy goes cav. If i know anything about Reza, he’s complaining because a handful of fana were able to easily defeat his much larger cav army. This is at least what happened last time I went fana against him.

Why would fanatics be OP? They are very expensive due to their high food cost. Also, temples are expensive and otherwise not as useful as a barracks. Fanatics have low armor and are not that fast. Also, if they would be OP, we would have seen them much more often.

How many games have you lost to a swarm of fanatics? A once off curb stomp does not render any one unit OP. Also champion cavalry are nowhere near as OP as they where in the past, Selucids and Persians are an outlier on that point as they are a lot stronger than the regular, but that is by design since it has a historical basis. As for counters, basic spearmen are functional against them, you need a numbers advantage though and preferably some champions of your own to stiffen the line, whatever form they take. I have personally annihilated about 100 champion Macedonian lancers using just mass veteran Triari and consular guard, so it is quite doable. And sure they are speedy, but ultimately half of this is a skill issue and not the fault of the game itself. Learn to make the most of what one has to hand. If something is really obnoxious like those Iberian fire cav in previous Alphas then sure fix them, but otherwise just leave it alone as is.

Against 1 very hard AI, all trees around the CC and even chicken preserved. All units including starting ones promoted. As of last save no death.

You should see how champ cav performs on a TG, and how is the dynamic we talking about. they really need a nerf or some kind of counter unit. its absurd that some of them can wipe out pikes like nothing

They are broken because spearmen cant counter them U can get metal easily like how u get wood easily from trees Also with abit turtling u can spam them

Yes I know. And as I mentioned there, the consensus is mostly supporting a late adoption of the sail: "The question of when the sail was adopted in the Norse homelands and how this affected the beginning of the earliest overseas voyages has been hotly debated. Some scholars support the idea that sails were used in Scandinavia long before the Viking Age, while a mid to late eighth-century date has been the generally accepted opinion (see Bill, Reference Bill and Klæsøe2010; Westerdal, Reference Westerdahl, Barrett and Gibbons2015: 18). One of the two vessels discovered at Salme in Estonia in 2008 and 2010, dates to around ad 750 and is the earliest evidence of a combined rowing/sailing vessel used by the Scandinavians (Price et al., Reference Price, Peets, Allmäe, Maldre and Oras2016). For Norway, the use of sail is not archaeologically attested before the Oseberg ship which was constructed in ad 820 (Bill, Reference Bill and Klæsøe2010: 27–28), although it is unlikely to have been the first sailing vessel in Norwegian waters. Nevertheless, the introduction of the sail and developments in shipbuilding technology during the Viking Age in this setting should be regarded as improvements and adaptions in response to new uses rather than the result of revolutionary inventions (Barrett, Reference Barrett, Anderson, Barrett and Boyle2010: 290)." Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/european-journal-of-archaeology/article/earliest-wave-of-viking-activity-the-norwegian-evidence-revisited/C2A3AB5F0C962CFB700EEAF24970BE49

I mention and emphasize again,fanatics and champ cavs have no counter. Some nave people say you can counter champs with champs. But its not that true. For example for sele/persian/gaul cav champs, there is 0 counter units ( or champs) in Maury civ. Other units like citizens or mercs ( even cav mercs) have counter in all civs, then they are ok.

Totally agree on this. But I'd say that every unit should have a counter unit to make the game more dinamically. If a unit doesnt have a counter at least from a good number of civs, then the game just turns into a champcav race. And thats make some kind of boring gameplays

The issue with sails is that they are a weak point on boats and ships, especially for warfare. The Nordic Bronze Age collapsed and the trading network changed considerably with the transition to the Iron Age. Sails could have been used only in long distance trading during the Bronze Age for example. And indeed during the Iron Age, the context changed. Finally, rock arts were mostly located in Sweden and Norway, not in Denmark.

Is not the rock art from the bronze age? It's possible they would have abandoned the sail at some point (the Nordic bronze age seem wealthier and more connected than the later iron age cultures) and it was reintroduced later.

That would be @Dunedan these days.

The original post of this pinned thread needs an update or to be unpinned. If updated: First URL should be replaced by https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad/wiki/GameplayFeatureStatus (a page which was last updated 6 years ago). The second one isn't really replaceable, as we are now working with issues as well as pull requests. Therefore needs to be deleted or declared as old.

I'm developing a mod for 0 AD called Renaissance Dawn, set between 1450 and 1490. It focuses on the warfare and politics of the late Middle Ages and early Renaissance. The currently planned factions are the Kingdom of France and the Holy Roman Empire. Additional planned systems include mercenaries, princely and imperial courts, and consulates as subfactions or game mechanics. The timeline and phase structure are still being refined. I'm not a programmer or 3D modeler, but I'm fully committed to the project. I'm in charge of historical research, conceptual development, and visual references (gathering accurate images, sources, and design materials). I'm here to coordinate and support the team, and to seek out technically skilled collaborators, especially modelers and programmers, to bring the vision to life. If you're interested in joining or just following the project, feel free to visit our Discord. The link is in another post I shared. https://discord.gg/v4yHMRaQUv

The old 0 A.D. start screen/menu (alpha 6 Fortuna).

Tnx for Update 27.1

This map is designed to be played in singleplayer/2 players. VI century b.C., Sparta and Argo, are competing for control of the Peloponnese. The other faction starts as neutral, but you can sign alliances by paying the right amount. The map is designed to enjoy hoplite battles and strategy, putting a side the building part of the game (the map is quite full of cities/minor settlement: is there Corinth, Olympia, Messene, Mantinea and various villages). I still have to manage some issues with uploading the map here, but for now I want some comments on it. Let me know.

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But their turn rate and acceleration are much better. Also factor in the length of their spears.

Current status and small correction:

This is so wrong, Mauryans have the strongest champ unit in the game.