===[COMMITTED]=== Aspis Remake

[Stan`]

@Alexandermb can you upload aspis_spart_lambda_07.png here ? It's the last file missing.

[Alexandermb]

1 hour ago, Stan` said:

@Alexandermb can you upload aspis_spart_lambda_07.png here ? It's the last file missing.

i fixed that last night but internet connection was uploading at BYTES yes bytes . so the higher the resolution the more its blurred by antialias?

Can't tell the difference to be honest, looking everything in a little laptop generic screen when i used to have a TV as monitor everything looks tiny.

[Stan`]

I guess it's texture filtering not antialiasing but apparently so.

4 minutes ago, Alexandermb said:

i fixed that last night but internet connection was uploading at BYTES yes bytes .

That changeset didn't work :/

[Alexandermb]

Just now, Stan` said:

I guess it's texture filtering not antialiasing but apparently so.

That changeset didn't work :/

I meant to say, i couldn't upload it. i gave up and start to look youtube (Armies and Tactics: Roman Polybian Legion and Triplex Acies) and see what i can excavenge from there  and started to animate idle poses:

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[Stan`]

Can you upload the file to the forums or somewhere  ? I'll fix it for you

[wackyserious]

6 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Any thoughts about the shield capes? They are a neat detail, but right now have no animations so look like stiff cardboard attacked to the bottom of the aspides. lol

I noticed that the previous alphas removed it from the elite hoplite actors. Back when I first played the game, I remember them having that textile attached to their shields.

[Nescio]

16 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

I noticed that the previous alphas removed it from the elite hoplite actors. Back when I first played the game, I remember them having that textile attached to their shields.

On the one hand it's a nice detail, on the other it's weird cloth ignores gravity.

[Stan`]

12 minutes ago, Nescio said:

On the one hand it's a nice detail, on the other it's weird cloth ignores gravity.

I wonder how stiff the cloth was at that angle it would be weirdly oriented I guess.

[Lion.Kanzen]

4 hours ago, Alexandermb said:

I meant to say, i couldn't upload it. i gave up and start to look youtube (Armies and Tactics: Roman Polybian Legion and Triplex Acies) and see what i can excavenge from there  and started to animate idle poses:

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Interesting for scenario.

[wackyserious]

Moved the topic to the completed art tasks.

[Carltonus]

The remade aspides look great. The arrow curtains (that you so called shield capes) remake would be an interesting addition since it would require to be animated.

Suggest that the Spartan hero shield (Leonidas) to be re-textured to match the statues in Thermopylae and near the city stadium in Sparta:

 

Edited April 22, 2020 by Carltonus
Reiterating second sentence since it's been discussed in above posts

[Nescio]

Keep in mind those two statues at Thermopylae and Sparta are products of 20 C Greek nationalist propaganda.

[Stan`]

[Thorfinn the Shallow Minded]

One change that is definitely warranted, however, I would say is to add proper braiding to Spartans both for unit textures and hero portraits.  It is clearly attested in sources such as Plutarch and Herodotus.  

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Dreadlocks would be awesome. 

1 hour ago, Nescio said:

Keep in mind those two statues at Thermopylae and Sparta are products of 20 C Greek nationalist propaganda.

Indeed. I love the design of the gorgon shield* (taken from a vase, right?), but Leonidas' current spiral shield (Apollo sun ray?) is nearly perfect. 

 

*I might get it tattooed on my shoulder. 

[Carltonus]

@Stan`: other than the lack of snakes and studs on the rim, nice try on the re-texture. Hope someone can do better.

[Stan`]

5 minutes ago, Carltonus said:

@Stan`: other than the lack of snakes and studs on the rim, nice try on the re-texture. Hope someone can do better.

Thanks but I did not do that one (It was Alexandermb  I think)  you can check all the shields that will be included in A24 here ( some might not be used)

 

https://trac.wildfiregames.com/browser/ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/art/textures/skins/props/shield

[Nescio]

14 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I love the design of the gorgon shield* (taken from a vase, right?),

The gorgon head is not specific to Leonidas or the Spartans, use of it was widespread in the Greek world, and beyond. Here's a famous 6th C BC shield decorations found and kept in Olympia:

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12 hours ago, Carltonus said:

studs on the rim

Why should there be studs on the rim?

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

Studs are an inaccuracy I guess.

[Thorfinn the Shallow Minded]

I wouldn't say this is enough evidence for the prevalence of studs on that sort of shield, but I did find a piece of pottery that might be a reason to depict them:

Edited April 23, 2020 by Thorfinn the Shallow Minded

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

5 hours ago, Nescio said:

The gorgon head is not specific to Leonidas or the Spartans, use of it was widespread in the Greek world, and beyond. Here's a famous 6th C BC shield decorations found and kept in Olympia:

I meant that particular gorgon design is from pottery if I'm not mistaken. 

[Lion.Kanzen]

8 hours ago, Thorfinn the Shallow Minded said:

I wouldn't say this is enough evidence for the prevalence of studs on that sort of shield, but I did find a piece of pottery that might be a reason to depict them:

It's very rare to see. I asked to Alexander he is making shields right now.

Edited April 23, 2020 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

Pontic , Anatolian Griffin aspid.

[Lion.Kanzen]

Pontic shield.

[Alexandermb]

On 4/22/2020 at 1:03 PM, Stan` said:

After cleaning with new mat and blender 2.81:

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From 45 minutes of overheatting and high poly to low poly bake. To 13 minutes of direct rendering.