WhiteTreePaladin Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Many of you were probably already aware of this, but I only found out a little while ago. Notre Dame cathedral has suffered catastrophic damage due to fire. It is a very sad day for France, and everyone really. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, WhiteTreePaladin said: Many of you were probably already aware of this, but I only found out a little while ago. Notre Dame cathedral has suffered catastrophic damage due to fire. It is a very sad day for France, and everyone really. The fire started a few hours ago and it's currently still ablaze:https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/04/15/incendie-en-cours-dans-la-cathedrale-notre-dame-de-paris_5450533_3224.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47941794 It reminds me of the national museum of Brazil last September. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Still ablaze yes, the complete destruction of the North towers (Beffroi) is still possible. Sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Genava55 said: Still ablaze yes, the complete destruction of the North towers (Beffroi) is still possible. Sadly. The fire is now under control and although the spire and surrounding roof has collapsed, most of the structure, including the towers, has been saved and most of the artworks on display inside were evacuated by firefighters. It's sad, but it could have been much worse. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47943705 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Yes. Thankfully half hour after my message the fire was decreasing and the firefighters were more optimistic. This is bad enough and I am glad they saved the rest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 always is hope somewhere can be nice put some 3D model in one of our mods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 "Photos show center of Notre Dame cathedral miraculously intact": I read they let the fire burn controlled, logic being what doesn't crash down can't smash things below... Some (foreign) air-head suggested using water bombers; luckily the firefighters knew better. So, the roof's gone. I don't think there was much actual cultural loss? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Well the person who built it kind of defaced a few castles so it's not cultural loss, but still a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 @stanislas69I don't know what you mean about the castles, and how that affects the cultural worth. Only thing I found was: " In 1160, the Bishop of Paris, Maurice de Sully, decided to build a new and much larger church. He summarily demolished the Romanesque cathedral and chose to recycle its materials." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I mean Violet le duc, who made the roof kinda destroyed some castle history by doing things to his liking instead of restoring them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Ah, that guy. Yeah, I'm aware that a lot of 'restorations' (in the 19th century) are considered historically incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) Business Insider: The effort to rebuild Notre-Dame Cathedral could get help from an unlikely source: A video game - https://www.businessinsider.com/notre-dame-cathedral-assassins-creed-2019-4 Edited April 16, 2019 by Sturm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Gurken Khan said: "Photos show center of Notre Dame cathedral miraculously intact": I read they let the fire burn controlled, logic being what doesn't crash down can't smash things below. Sounds like less of a miracle to me and more like the fire marshals being smart and professional at what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTreePaladin Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Sounds like less of a miracle to me and more like the fire marshals being smart and professional at what they do. Well, I think the main concern was about the integrity of the stone portions of the structure. The combined interactions of the heat from the fire and the cooling from the water could have caused the stone to become brittle and collapse. Even now, they aren't fully sure what condition the stone is in and whether it is sound. It does appear that they were able to save many of the movable contents, so that is very good. Edited April 16, 2019 by WhiteTreePaladin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 A few French firms have already pledged hundreds of millions to rebuilt the cathedral. I do wonder though if there would be the same amount of generosity and global attention if it were the Notre Dame Cathedral of Rheims or Rouen that was on fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Worth noting that someone asked the government for a 90% tax reduction on that money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTreePaladin Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, stanislas69 said: Worth noting that someone asked the government for a 90% tax reduction on that money. That's sort of like contributing some amount and having the government match it by 900%. A little odd, but could potentially be useful. Still, seems a little early to be asking for tax breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 It might get a quite different spire: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47959313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I fear the restoration will turn into a boondoggle. So many corporations and rich people pledging donations, who will coordinate these funds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki1950 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Macron political patronage anyone Enjoy the Choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Loki1950 said: Macron political patronage anyone Enjoy the Choice I have very negative image from Macron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTreePaladin Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I fear the restoration will turn into a boondoggle. So many corporations and rich people pledging donations, who will coordinate these funds? Probably will be handled by the property owners which I think is the French government? The Catholic Church has full permission to manage Notre Dame, so I'm sure they will have some involvement in the process. I don't think fund coordination will be any worse than any other government restoration project (natural disasters, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 10:52 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Sounds like less of a miracle to me and more like the fire marshals being smart and professional at what they do. I don't think it's a miracle, because it's about material things instead of human lives. 3 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I fear the restoration will turn into a boondoggle. So many corporations and rich people pledging donations, who will coordinate these funds? the same kind of guys that coordinate to helps ONG and aid to another matters. Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Suspected copy-cat behaviour across the pond: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47973354 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 The story goes on: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48022661 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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