===[TASK]=== Greek Unit Texture (General Thread)

[wackyserious]

 

The objective is to enhance or add new textures to the hellenic units.

• Skeletal/body mesh textures
• Shield textures

ATHENIANS

The Athenian Epilektoi

DIADOCHI

The Hellenistic Thureophoroi

The Ptolemaic Royal Agema

The Ptolemaic Machimoi

 

 

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

@Enrique @wowgetoffyourcellphone Considerate this beautiful work for the repo.

 

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@wackyserious can you help us with mods and other official tasks.

[wackyserious]

@Lion.Kanzen As long as I am free of real life responsibilities Tho, I only work with skeletal mesh textures and shield textures, as I am still a beginner in 3d modelling.

[Lion.Kanzen]

Yes, can you think about texturing the Arab Skirmisher and Judean slinger , I have reference but you are best than me, I'm 2D too.

and my work in 3D is limítated.

the references are there.

 

 

Edited April 26, 2017 by Lion.Kanzen

[wackyserious]

- REFERENCE -

Mars of Todi - An Etruscan bronze statue dating back to the 5th - early 4th century B.C.E.

Amphora description : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hoplitodromos_Staatliche_Antikensammlungen_1471.jpg

Amphora description : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hoplitodromos_Louvre_MN704.jpg

Amphora description : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hoplitodromia_MAR_Palermo_NI1863.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zckr4wx#z267mp3

Edited June 25, 2017 by wackyserious

[wackyserious]

I need some feedback on the first three shields on the top

• historical inaccuracies
• inaccurate details
• etc.

[wackyserious]

Preview - Athenian basic rank hoplite shield textures

.PNG files are uploaded on the first post in this topic.

[wackyserious]

Should I include the stone bullet bags in the skeletal texture or should ammo bags exist separately as a prop?

Edited May 7, 2017 by wackyserious

[Stan`]

Both could work IMHO, do you need a mesh ? Only issue would be the leather part that holds it.

Edited May 9, 2017 by stanislas69

[Thorfinn the Shallow Minded]

Good work on the Athenian shields.  One point of criticism I would make is based on the fact that at least according to several sources on ancient Greek scripts, your alphas seem to be backwards.  On notes for the slingers, you might want to have the muscles less defined from a texture standpoint since hypertrophy would not have been so much of an issue for people operating in that role.  

[wackyserious]

@Thorfinn the Shallow Minded, Thank you for your response, the alpha symbol was based on this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_Alpha_03.svg

The symbol on the texture file was rotated to 90 degrees so that the alpha symbol is recognizable with respect to the hoplite spearman animations in the game (walk and attack) as shown in the Atlas map editor screenshots above.

I'll see if I can do something about the upper limb texture.

[wackyserious]

@stanislas69 Let us wait for more feedbacks and discussion and see which one should be applied in the game.

[av93]

What factions belong those two kind of hoplites?

 

Spoiler

 

On 26/4/2017 at 4:48 AM, wackyserious said:

 

Spoiler

On 28/4/2017 at 6:51 AM, wackyserious said:

 

 

 

 

[Stan`]

33 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

@stanislas69 Let us wait for more feedbacks and discussion and see which one should be applied in the game.

Sounds reasonnable. In the meantime, if you need any helmet for your models, or your school project, I'll be glad to assist.

[wackyserious]

Thanks, Stan!

[wackyserious]

@av93 Those are all intended to be used for the Athenians

• The one in the middle in the first screenshot was already omitted because of inaccurate details
• The ones in the top of the second screenshot are my renditions based on motifs found on archaeological materials
• The ones on the bottom of the second screenshot are based on the current shield designs for the Athenians in the game

[wackyserious]

Greek epigraphic Alpha found at Wikicommons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Greek_epigraphic_Alpha

[Thorfinn the Shallow Minded]

The point I was making was about the way the Athenians wrote it, which was distinct.  The undercase alphas in this inscription come from a different direction.  Looking at other ones from Athens, this does not seem to be the only case.

  

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Ammo bag should be a prop. Something that's been missing for a long time. 

[serveurix]

I'm not 100% sure but I think Thorfinn is right in the sense that the bottom of the shield should point downwards when the unit is bracing, and point backwards when the unit is walking. So on the picture above the shields with the amphora and the helmet are ok, the ones with the soldiers running and the alpha symbols should be turned by 90°.

[wackyserious]

The alpha symbol orientation is noted.

Current WIP on Greek psiloi infanty and Thracian peltasts unit textures.

 

[wackyserious]

On 5/7/2017 at 6:53 PM, stanislas69 said:

Both could work IMHO, do you need a mesh ? Only issue would be the leather part that holds it.

@stanislas69 Here's a WIP of the Athenian elite psiloi texture, you can use it to fit/place the ammo bag properly.

It would be ideal to place it in the area marked in red below.

A bag position reference

[Stan`]

Okay will look into it soon.

[wackyserious]

The Machimoi - preview

I really enjoyed working on these textures. I learned a lot during the research phase.

Edited May 11, 2017 by wackyserious

[Stan`]

@wackyserious it should be good to go. Haven't had time to test it. Attach it to the "sheath_L" prop point. Feel free to edit the texture.

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