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[Part III] Faction: The Archaic Hellenes (776-480 B.C.)


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Post info, sources, suggestions, etc. here.  Be sure to credit your source if you post images or written info.  Below is a basic design document.

 

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FACTION: Archaic Hellenes
TIMESPAN: 776-480 B.C.
CIV EMBLEM: Gorgon's Head
[thanks to Mythos_Ruler for the emblem!]

UNITS
Note: With these placeholders, citizen soldiers should retain the same appearance regardless of promotion.
The exact corresponding scenario editor actor files are listed beside the unit names below, followed by the structure(s) from which they can be trained.
CITIZEN CAVALRY
Greek Horseman – spart_cavalry_spearman_e (Civ Centre, Barracks)
Thessalian Scout – athen_cavalry_javelinist_b (Barracks)
CITIZEN INFANTRY
Thracian Peltast – athen_infantry_javelinist_b (Civ Centre, Barracks)
Greek Hoplite – spart_infantry_spearman_a (Civ Centre, Barracks)
Cretan Mercenary Archer - athen_marine_infantry_archer_b (Barracks)
CHAMPIONS
Spartan Royal Bodyguard – spart_champion_infantry_spear (Gymnasium)
Greek Officer – theb_champion_swordsman – all variations (Fortress) – gives LOS citizen infantry +10 attack – build limit 5 – auras do not overlap
SIEGE
Battering Ram – spart_mechanical_siege_ram (Fortress)
HEROES
Lycurgus hero – spart_hero_brasidas (Council Chamber)
Solon hero – athen_hero_themistocles (Council Chamber)
Cleisthenes hero – athen_hero_pericles (Council Chamber)
SUPPORT
Greek Slave – athen_support_slave (Civ Centre – only building this unit can be trained from) – can
harvest domestic animals, wood, food (berries and farming), metal, and stone; cannot hunt; cannot
build; cannot fight; fairly easy for enemy to capture; 1 Greek Slave should be included in the starting
units group

Greek Woman – athen_support_female_citizen (Civ Centre, House)
Greek Merchant – athen_support_trader (Market)
Priest of Artemis – athen_support_healer_b (Temple)
NAVAL
Fishing Boat – athen_ship_fishing (Dock)
Merchant Ship – athen_ship_merchant (Dock)
War Ship – athen_ship_bireme (Dock)

STRUCTURES
The exact corresponding scenario editor actor files are listed beside the structure names below, followed by their trainable units.
VILLAGE
Barracks – athen_barracks (Greek Horseman, Thessalian Scout, Thracian Peltast, Greek Hoplite, Cretan Mercenary Archer)
Corral – athen_corral (Goat)
Outpost - athen_outpost
Dock – athen_dock (Fishing Boat, Merchant Ship, War Ship)
Farmstead – athen_farmstead
Farm Field - athen_field
House – athen_house (Greek Woman)
Storehouse - athen_storehouse
TOWN
Civ Centre – athen_civil_centre (Greek Horseman, Thracian Peltast, Greek Hoplite, Greek Woman, Greek Slave) – 1 Greek Slave should be included in the starting units group
Blacksmith - athen_blacksmith
Defense Tower - athen_defense_tower
Market – athen_market (Greek Merchant)
Temple – athen_temple (Priest of Artemis)
City Wall – athen_wall... etc.
CITY
Fortress – athen_fortress (Greek Officer, Battering Ram)
Gymnasium – athen_gymnasion (Spartan Royal Bodyguard)
Council Chamber – athen_prytaneion (Heroes)
Temple of Artemis at Ephesus wonder - athen_wonder

 

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For champions, think really archaic. Maybe something like "Temple Guard" or "Palace Guard", and then maybe "Chariot Champion." Really give these Greek an old school feel. Bell cuirasses, Illyrian helms, barefeet, penis swag, dipylon and boeotian shields.

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2 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

For champions, think really archaic. Maybe something like "Temple Guard" or "Palace Guard", and then maybe "Chariot Champion." Really give these Greek an old school feel. Bell cuirasses, Illyrian helms, barefeet, penis swag, dipylon and boeotian shields.

Ok I know it's just my dirty mind playing tricks on me, but penis swag?

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@wowgetoffyourcellphone  I believe war chariots were from an earlier, Mycenaean timeframe though.  And anyway, the current units roster represents the later archaic period, partly for compatibility with the vanilla game placeholders I'm using at the moment.  But I'm not necessarily ruling out depicting some of the older items you mentioned (except for the no-skirt part, for gameplay purposes they will need to at least have a loincloth of some sort).

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On 1/21/2017 at 3:15 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

For champions, think really archaic. Maybe something like "Temple Guard" or "Palace Guard", and then maybe "Chariot Champion." Really give these Greek an old school feel. Bell cuirasses, Illyrian helms, barefeet, penis swag, dipylon and boeotian shields.

For heroes and maybe champions; it would be interesting to see heavy armor from later on the archaic period (Full panoply for heroes, champion has chance of having Mitra and/or Thigh guard):

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Link to detailed pictures of additonal armour pieces:

https://br.pinterest.com/siresasa/ancient-greek-armour-only-historically-accurate/

 

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