Stan` Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 13/05/2018 at 3:28 PM, balduin said: However, it is hard to copy and paste text from PDFs Expand 0 A.D. Lan Tutorial.pdf Try this one, it's pretty easy. On 13/05/2018 at 3:28 PM, balduin said: This is important for future releases, but not for the upcoming? Expand It needs D11 to go in. Maybe A24 if @wraitii feels like it, but he is working on something more important ATM. On 13/05/2018 at 3:28 PM, balduin said: Help wanted for people with recording equipment. Where do I have to go if I would like to help with that? (I am asking in general) Expand Earlier in this thread there were all you needed to get the sounds correctly. Then you need to mimic the good accent and record that with a decent microphone. Then people like Sundiata need to review it. 1. Yes basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 13/05/2018 at 9:30 AM, stanislas69 said: Other than the spearman shoulder Expand You might recognize these. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 13/05/2018 at 5:00 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: You might recognize these. Expand Then it's done in DE (as the default atlas texture suggests :P) Still needs to be committed to vanilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 13/05/2018 at 5:03 PM, stanislas69 said: Then it's done in DE (as the default atlas texture suggests :P) Still needs to be committed to vanilla. Expand Right, just saying I merely stole the shields from the Xiongnu. You can commit the files from Terra Magna to public and use those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Unit actors. You just need to commit the shields from TM. infantry_pikeman_a.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Thanks ! On my list. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuk0z Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 @Sundiata, @LordGood, @wowgetoffyourcellphone, @stanislas69, @elexis, @wackyserious and all contributors to this achievement: Men and lads I'm proud of what you've done, seriously. I updated the Wikipedia (FR) and Mediawiki pages accordingly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 On 25/05/2018 at 11:38 AM, tuk0z said: @Sundiata, @LordGood, @wowgetoffyourcellphone, @stanislas69, @elexis, @wackyserious and all contributors to this achievement: Men and lads I'm proud of what you've done, seriously. I updated the Wikipedia (FR) and Mediawiki pages accordingly. Expand Thank you so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sundiata Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 The Kingdom of Kush: A Random Visual Reference Update You might have noticed that I'm taking a break from the Kushites, but that doesn't mean the research has ended. After the re-release of alpha 23, I'll post a list of some further suggestions to get this faction from 95% to 100%. In the meantime, have a look at some new finds, and a handful of higher quality versions of images shared before: Reveal hidden contents 2018, updated archaeological site of Jebel Barkal. New excavations reveal two more temples lining the main avenue connecting the Great Amun Temple to the Nile. Temple B570 and B580 were previously unknown to me, so that got me excited . Please take note of the puny human figurines walking on the avenues, to understand the true scale of this site... Beautiful cutaway of the Great Amun Temple, Gebel Barkal, Napata. The Two Pylons (monumental gateways to the successive inner section of the temple) on the far right, were originally built by Ancient Egyptian pharaohs like Ramesses II and Tutankhamun. The 2 massive pylons and outer courtyards on the left were later additions, by pharaoh Piye of the 25th Dynasty. The inner and the outer kiosks were added in the Meroitic period by Queen Amanitore, King Natakamani and possibly Queen Amanishakheto, after a full restoration of the ancient temple after the Roman sack of the site. Almost all of the temples at Jebel Barkal were restored and rebuilt several times over the course of Kushite history. Gebel Barkal, palace (B 1500) inner courtyard, Napata: The remains of a massive Napatan "treasury" at Sanam. I shared an image of a beautiful reconstruction of another excavated treasury at Sanam before, not realizing it was only one of a few. The Treasury SA.C 400, pictured below was absolutely huge, measuring approximately 267 m long by 68 m wide. Finds of gold, ivory, copper alloy, faience, carnelian precious stones, alabastron, pottery and cowry shells illustrate that this was no simple storehouse. Homat el Hamadab, 3km from Meroë (higher resolution images): Typical Kushite pottery in situ in a grave at Hamadab A fine example of extremely thin Kushite "eggshell ware", a speciality of Meroitic potters, Hamadab: A Roman style glass vase, Hamadab Small seated lion pendant, Hamadab: Hamadab gateway (higher resolution image): Central temple of Hamadab (original location of the Hamadab stelae). The rooms on the left side of this structure were later additions, resulting in this awkward non-symetrical temple (which is somewhat rare). A rare image of the large scale excavations at the Royal City in Meroë, 1910's. This entire site is currently buried by sand, and only small scale excavations take place today.. Copy of a fresco in one of the temples in the Royal City, Meroë Funerary lintel with Meroitic inscriptions, Sedeinga: Sedeinga, stele with Meroitic inscriptions (left), lintel bearing the image of the goddess Ma'at, right: New lion statues excavated at Musawwarat es Sufra: Sudanese archaeologists restoring what remains of the small lion statues lining the ramp to temple 300 (the Kushite wonder in-game): Ancient Egyptian depictions of Kushite prisoners: Egypt, Thebes, 25th Dynasty Opet Festival at Karnak (modern day Luxor). Together with the New Year's festivities at Gebel Barkal, Napata, the Opet Festival in Karnak were the most important religious ceremonies of the Egyptian and Kushite Empires alike, and helps explain the Kushite obsession with retaining some authority in Thebes long after their expulsion by the Assyrians. The massive kiosk in front of the main temple was built by Taharqa, and is known as the Kiosk of Taharqa, with a single column still standing today (the Column of Taharqa). Remains of the temple of Osiris in Karnak, Thebes, built by Pharaoh Taharqa of the 25th Dynasty: Kushites with Hellenistic tunics in Ptolemaic Egypt, based on Ptolemaic figurines and the Praeneste Nile Mosaic (Nile mosaic of Palestrina, Italy): Finally, an Islamic period Arab castle on the Nile, Sudan. The reason I share this image is because of the obvious similarity with the Kushite, post-Kushite and Christian Makurian period fortifications. Same construction techniques and materials seem to be used, but because this one is much more recent, it's much better preserved, including the mud brick upper floor: 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_adama Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 29/06/2018 at 12:07 PM, Sundiata said: The Kingdom of Kush: A Random Visual Reference Update You might have noticed that I'm taking a break from the Kushites, but that doesn't mean the research has ended. After the re-release of alpha 23, I'll post a list of some further suggestions to get this faction from 95% to 100%. In the meantime, have a look at some new finds, and a handful of higher quality versions of images shared before: Reveal hidden contents 2018, updated archaeological site of Jebel Barkal. New excavations reveal two more temples lining the main avenue connecting the Great Amun Temple to the Nile. Temple B570 and B580 were previously unknown to me, so that got me excited . Please take note of the puny human figurines walking on the avenues, to understand the true scale of this site... Beautiful cutaway of the Great Amun Temple, Gebel Barkal, Napata. The Two Pylons (monumental gateways to the successive inner section of the temple) on the far right, were originally built by Ancient Egyptian pharaohs like Ramesses II and Tutankhamun. The 2 massive pylons and outer courtyards on the left were later additions, by pharaoh Piye of the 25th Dynasty. The inner and the outer kiosks were added in the Meroitic period by Queen Amanitore, King Natakamani and possibly Queen Amanishakheto, after a full restoration of the ancient temple after the Roman sack of the site. Almost all of the temples at Jebel Barkal were restored and rebuilt several times over the course of Kushite history. Gebel Barkal, palace (B 1500) inner courtyard, Napata: The remains of a massive Napatan "treasury" at Sanam. I shared an image of a beautiful reconstruction of another excavated treasury at Sanam before, not realizing it was only one of a few. The Treasury SA.C 400, pictured below was absolutely huge, measuring approximately 267 m long by 68 m wide. Finds of gold, ivory, copper alloy, faience, carnelian precious stones, alabastron, pottery and cowry shells illustrate that this was no simple storehouse. Homat el Hamadab, 3km from Meroë (higher resolution images): Typical Kushite pottery in situ in a grave at Hamadab A fine example of extremely thin Kushite "eggshell ware", a speciality of Meroitic potters, Hamadab: A Roman style glass vase, Hamadab Small seated lion pendant, Hamadab: Hamadab gateway (higher resolution image): Central temple of Hamadab (original location of the Hamadab stelae). The rooms on the left side of this structure were later additions, resulting in this awkward non-symetrical temple (which is somewhat rare). A rare image of the large scale excavations at the Royal City in Meroë, 1910's. This entire site is currently buried by sand, and only small scale excavations take place today.. Copy of a fresco in one of the temples in the Royal City, Meroë Funerary lintel with Meroitic inscriptions, Sedeinga: Sedeinga, stele with Meroitic inscriptions (left), lintel bearing the image of the goddess Ma'at, right: New lion statues excavated at Musawwarat es Sufra: Sudanese archaeologists restoring what remains of the small lion statues lining the ramp to temple 300 (the Kushite wonder in-game): Ancient Egyptian depictions of Kushite prisoners: Egypt, Thebes, 25th Dynasty Opet Festival at Karnak (modern day Luxor). Together with the New Year's festivities at Gebel Barkal, Napata, the Opet Festival in Karnak were the most important religious ceremonies of the Egyptian and Kushite Empires alike, and helps explain the Kushite obsession with retaining some authority in Thebes long after their expulsion by the Assyrians. The massive kiosk in front of the main temple was built by Taharqa, and is known as the Kiosk of Taharqa, with a single column still standing today (the Column of Taharqa). Remains of the temple of Osiris in Karnak, Thebes, built by Pharaoh Taharqa of the 25th Dynasty: Kushites with Hellenistic tunics in Ptolemaic Egypt, based on Ptolemaic figurines and the Praeneste Nile Mosaic (Nile mosaic of Palestrina, Italy): Finally, an Islamic period Arab castle on the Nile, Sudan. The reason I share this image is because of the obvious similarity with the Kushite, post-Kushite and Christian Makurian period fortifications. Same construction techniques and materials seem to be used, but because this one is much more recent, it's much better preserved, including the mud brick upper floor: Expand Hi Sundiata, would you mind sharing the title of the book or article you got the reconstruction of the peristyle hall from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) On 03/07/2018 at 10:18 PM, E_adama said: Hi Sundiata, would you mind sharing the title of the book or article you got the reconstruction of the peristyle hall from? Expand I got it from a PhD thesis by Sarah Schellinger: An Analysis of the Architectural, Religious, and Political Significance of the Napatan and Meroitic Palaces. It's basically a lengthy comparison between Ancient Egyptian and Kushite palatial architecture, and the evolution of Napatan and Meroitic palatial architecture more specifically. There's a lot of nice stuff in there... Quote Sarah Schellinger is a PhD candidate in the Department of Near and Middle Eastern Civilizations at the University of Toronto. She completed her B.A. at The Ohio State University in Anthropology in 2005. She then completed an M.A. in Art History with a concentration in Egyptian Art and Archaeology at the University of Memphis. Her M.A. thesis entitled "Two Royal Shabtis of the Twenty-fifth Dynasty and the Napatan Period in the Collection of the Institute of Egyptian Art and Archaeology at the University of Memphis (1981.1.39 and 1981.1.41)". She then completed a second M.A. in the Department of Near and Middle Eastern Civilizations at the University of Toronto in Egyptology. Her doctoral research focuses on palatial architecture dating to the Napatan and Meroitic Periods in Nubia (ancient Sudan) and how the palaces function in the political and religious landscapes. In addition to her studies, Sarah also held a research associate position at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. Expand https://www.google.com.gh/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj5-6ud5bLaAhVBHCwKHWfLAHsQFghlMA0&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftspace.library.utoronto.ca%2Fbitstream%2F1807%2F77480%2F3%2FSchellinger_Sarah_M_201703_PhD_thesis.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0pUlGlAoMO2KjCRDDVEXWU page 408 (or 426) I haven't come across the original source of that particular image though (Roccati 2013: 250, figure 5), but Alessandro Roccati is widely quoted by experts in the field. Here are some sources for the other images in that post, and further reading (good stuff.. I should have put the links in the previous post, but I forgot ..) https://www.sciencealert.com/nubian-funerary-artefacts-meroitic-texts-found-in-sedeinga-sudan https://canvas-story.bbcrewind.co.uk/sites/head-of-augustus/ https://www.openstarts.units.it/bitstream/10077/14297/1/ATRA_3_online-11_Baldi.pdf And a wider shot of the excavations at the Royal City, Meroë: Edited July 4, 2018 by Sundiata 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted August 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) An Italian Linux blogger called Elia Argentieri wrote a small piece about 0AD adding the Kushites as a playable civ. It's always nice to see people excited about learning something new https://elinvention.ovh/blog/il-regno-di-kush/ Italian: Quote Elia Argentieri. 28 Jul 2018 18:00 Il 17 Maggio 2018 è stato rilasciato 0 A.D. Alpha 23. Nella nuova versione, tra le altre cose, è stata introdotta una nuova civiltà: i Kushiti. Io non li avevo mai sentiti nominare, quindi la curiosità mi ha portato su una pagina del forum di 0 A.D. dove viene estensivamente analizzato e presentato il regno di Kush. Purtroppo spesso sento dire che gli africani non si sono mai sviluppati economicamente e culturalmente, che sono sempre rimasti ai tempi dei raccoglitori-cacciatori e che il motivo di questa arretratezza vada ricercato in qualche caratteristica genetica inferiore. Il regno di Kush dimostra in modo inequivocabile che ciò non è vero! I Kushiti furono una grande civiltà che riuscì addirittura a conquistare Memphis, sottomettendo gli egizi per tre quarti di secolo. Come se non bastasse, la gran parte delle prime civiltà antiche erano formate da uomini che è difficile definire “bianchi”. Il regno di Kush è stato uno dei regni più antichi, vasti e longevi dell storia. Dal 2500 A.C. al 350 D.C. e comprendeva Egitto e Nubia (tutto il Nilo) al massimo della sua espansione. Eppure nei miei libri di storia non sono neanche nominati… Visto che abitavano la regione della Nubia, spesso vengono chiamati nubiani, ma ciò è impreciso perché non evidenzia la loro vera origine. Il bello di questa civiltà è che è rimasta nascosta e oscurata nei musei in tutto il mondo, finché, a partire dagli anni 70 del secolo scorso, sono stati progressivamente riscoperti. Il motivo di questo tentativo di cancellare o revisionare una pagina della storia pone le basi sul razzismo. Semplicemente era inconcepibile che dei neri avessero costruito piramidi e monumenti che non avevano nulla da invidiare da quelli egizi. Oggi, per fortuna, sembra esserci una forte volontà di rimuovere questi pregiudizi dall’archeologia. L’archeologia, ricordiamolo, è una vera e propria scienza che non ha spazio per opinioni, ne tanto meno di pregiudizi. “La Storia”, invece è una favola che ci raccontano, può essere vera, falsa, accurata, distorta… in sostanza raccontare “La Storia” senza corredarla con i reperti e le fonti è da ritenere pura propaganda! In questo caso nelle scuole viene fornita una visione parziale, troppo incentrata sugli europei e sull’Italia, magnificando alcune culture a discapito di altre. I kushiti, ancora oggi, restano un popolo enigmatico, visto che i la loro scrittura, basata sui geroglifici egizi, non è ancora comprensibile al 100%. Una parte del motivo per cui si poco di questo popolo va attribuita ad un nostro connazionale, Giuseppe Ferlini, un cacciatore di tesori che tra il 1834 ed il 1836, distrusse ben 40 piramidi, depredandole da tutto l’oro che contenevano. Ovviamente anche altri eventi storici antichi hanno contribuito al degradamento e alla distruzione di importanti reperti storici. L’evento più devastante fu sicuramente la conquista da parte degli aksumiti. Le città più importanti del regno di Kush furono Kerma, Napata e Meroë. Ognuna di queste città è stata capitale del Regno di Kush per un periodo. Ad esempio durante il dominio egizio, a Jebel Barkal, vicino Napata, si tenevano le più importanti cerimonie faraoniche egiziane. Napata, invece, fu un centro di potere che si affermò durante il collasso del nuovo regno egizio. Nel 591 a.C. gli egiziani invasero Napata che perse importanza rispetto a Meroë. Visto il contatto culturale tra egizi e kushiti, spesso gli artefatti kushiti vengono esposti in mostre e musei egiziani, nonostante fossero due regni ben distinti. Sarebbe come confondere greci e romani! Divertitevi a giocare a 0 A.D. Alpha 23 e ricordate sempre che non esistevano solo i romani… Expand English translation: Quote Elia Argentieri 28 Jul 2018 18:00 On 17 May 2018 0 A.D. Alpha 23 was released. In the new version, among other things, a new civilization has been introduced: the Kushites. I had never heard of them, so curiosity brought me to a page in the 0 AD forum where the kingdom of Kush is extensively analyzed and presented. Unfortunately, I often hear people say that Africans have never developed economically and culturally, that they have always remained in the days of hunter-gatherers and that the reason for this backwardness has to be found in some inferior genetic traits. The kingdom of Kush shows unequivocally that this is not true! The Kushites were a great civilization that even managed to conquer Memphis, subjugating the Egyptians for three quarters of a century. As if that were not enough, most of the early ancient civilizations were made up of men who are hard to call "white". The kingdom of Kush was one of the oldest, most extensive and long-lived kingdoms in history. From 2500 BC to 350 AD and included Egypt and Nubia (all the Nile) at the height of its expansion. Yet in my history books they are not even mentioned... Since they lived in the Nubian region, they are often called Nubians, but this is inaccurate because it does not highlight their true origin. The beauty of this civilization is that it has remained hidden and obscured in museums all over the world, until, since the 70s of the last century, they have been gradually rediscovered. The reason behind this attempt to erase or revise a page in history has its foundation in racism. It was simply inconceivable that blacks had built pyramids and monuments that had nothing to envy from the Egyptians. Fortunately today, there seems to be a strong desire to remove these prejudices from archeology. Let's remember, archeology is a real science that has no space for opinions, let alone prejudices. "History", however, tells a story that can be true, false, accurate, distorted ... basically telling "History" without accompanying it with the finds and sources is to be considered pure propaganda! In this case a partial vision is given in schools, too focused on Europeans and Italy, magnifying some cultures to the detriment of others. Kushites, today still, remain an enigmatic people, given that their writing, based on Egyptian hieroglyphs, is not yet 100% comprehensible. Part of the reason why little of this people is [known] is attributed to one of our compatriots, Giuseppe Ferlini, a treasure hunter who, between 1834 and 1836, destroyed as many as 40 pyramids, robbing them of all the gold they contained. Of course, other ancient historical events have also contributed to the degradation and destruction of important historical artifacts. The most devastating event was certainly the Aksumite conquest. The most important cities of the kingdom of Kush were Kerma, Napata and Meroë. Each of these cities has been the capital of the Kingdom of Kush for a period. For example, during the Egyptian rule, the most important Egyptian Pharaonic ceremonies were held at Jebel Barkal, near Napata. Napata, on the other hand, was a center of power that became established during the collapse of the Egyptian New Kingdom. In 591 BC the Egyptians invaded Napata, which lost importance compared to Meroë. Given the cultural contact between Egyptians and Kushites, Kushite artifacts are often exhibited in Egyptian exhibitions and museums, although they were two distinct realms. It would be like confusing Greeks and Romans! Have fun playing 0 AD Alpha 23 and always remember that there were not only the Romans ... Expand "Given the cultural contact between Egyptians and Kushites, Kushite artifacts are often exhibited in Egyptian exhibitions and museums, although they were two distinct realms. It would be like confusing Greeks and Romans!" - The most memorable line for me And of course, here's some more totally random visual references for the Kushites: Reveal hidden contents Stone vulture from the temple of Taharqa at Kawa. Taharqa actually mentions bringing over Egyptian artisans to work on the temple. His temples at Kawa and Sanam subsequently became models for later Kushite temples as well, using local artisans. Baboon from Kawa Relief on the Kiosk of Taharqa: Higher quality version of a previously shared relief of Taharqa (or possibly Shebitku) 25th Dynasty stele from the Ossirian temple at Karnak, Thebes, Egypt Meroitic relief Apedemak, the lion-god (wearing the Hemhem crown) resting on a crescent Brightly coloured Meroitic shard Meroitic wooden box with inlaid ivory panels, from the site of Gebel Adda, near the Sudanese-Egyptian border. This is an incredibly interesting piece because it depicts Corinthian columns and arches, reminiscent of the Naqa kiosk, and a clear example of Roman influence, which would become much more pronounced in the post-Meroitic and Makurian Christian periods of Sudan, in the form of Byzantine influences. The faces also have very "non-African features", which isn't abnormal for such a northern site (a main trading post with Roman Egypt), but still note-worthy. A piece of Meroitic fabric, which is a very rare find. (depicting aquatic plants?) 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Elinvention Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Thank you very much for your quote here on this forum. Out of curiosity, how did you find my site? Do you think I should include more details in my article? Thanks again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted August 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) @Elinvention, Ha, welcome to the forum! I was just casually googling recent mentions of 0AD and Kush . The site looks good, but I'd have to read the rest of the articles to give you any more in-depth feedback. I thought the article was a nice introduction/impression/reaction. Perhaps mention a little bit about the game itself (historical Real Time Strategy, free, open-source, cross-platform). And when writing about a game, or some obscure piece of history, an image or two always does wonders to wet the appetite of the reader. Saluti, Edited August 9, 2018 by Sundiata 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted October 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Classical Sudanese musicians paying homage to their ancient heritage. Many beautiful shots, and the music is quite enjoyable as well. The first one begins with some funny historical dress/reenactment of Kushite royals passing their musical traditions to the modern generation, to the backdrop of the pyramids at Meroë (Begrawiya necropolis). It's not Hollywood level, but it's a commendable attempt nonetheless (pretty sure pharaohs' crown was orientated to the front, not the side, but oh well). The song starts getting real funky around min 2:30 . min. 3:20 Beautiful shot of a sufi shrine min. 3:37 Nile boats min. 4:00 An absolutely fantastic depiction of the mechanical workings of the saqiya (Sakia), an ancient waterwheel introduced during the Ptolemaic period, and paramount to farming on elevated banks. min. 7:15 More pyramids min. 7:56 Horsies What I love most about the video is the epic mass cavalry charge. I've never seen actual video of so many traditional Sudanese riders. They're wearing the Mahdist Jibba, a Sudanese cotton tunic with colored wool patches, dating to the Mahdist war of the late 19th century. min. 8:20 Statues of Napatan kings min. 8:47 The colossi of Tabo min 8:56 Statue of Taharqa min. 10:26 The house of boulders, a 20th century colonial thing min. 11:08 Back to Meroë min. 12:22 The faux cavalry charge continues The second video begins with some stunning shots of Jebel Barkal and the ruins of the Napatan temple complex. Then the throne hall of Old Dongola (Christian Makurian period), and Islamic period conical sufi tombs, followed by the New Kingdom Egyptian Temple of Soleb (still in use during the Napatan period). The rest of the video features many beautiful shots of the Western Deffufa, the central temple of ancient Kerma (capital of the first Kingdom of Kush). Other sites featured include the Sanganeb lighthouse, built by the British, as well as the Port of Suakin, an ancient trading port on the Red Sea, situated on a small round island. I'll just tag @OmriLahav, because you might like the music, and @elexis, because you might like the many stunning shots of the environment (map-ideas) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted November 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) The African Queen Who Stood Against Rome A bit simplified and romanticized, but an entertaining 4 min narration of the Kushite Roman war nonetheless. Cute animations. I wish some of the bigger Youtube History stars like Kings and Generals or Epimetheus would make a few videos on the various chapters in Kushite history... Apparently Will Packer is even going to produce a movie about Amanirenas for Universal (although there are very little details available). Edited November 26, 2018 by Sundiata 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Isis from Meroë reveals herself I was browsing through the Meroitic period artefacts in the archives of the British Museum, and found myself just staring at a few individual relief blocks. I suddenly realized that they were part of the same relief. A little bit more research revealed that these blocks were indeed all from the rear wall of the chapel of pyramid N17 in Meroë. This pyramid belonged to King Amanitenmemide, 1st century AD (or BC). Turns out that the chapel was removed from Sudan in 1905, with one wall being shipped to Berlin, and the other wall being shipped to London. The one that was sent to Berlin was reconstructed and is currently on display in the Neues Museum. The one that was sent to London (only 6 blocks survived) is not reconstructed. In fact it is not even on display... The archives of the British Museum house 1703 Meroitic and Napatan period artefacts, the vast majority of them not photographed (or at least their photographs haven't been published, or publicly catalogued), nor are they on display. I dowloaded the images of the blocks in the London archives, cut them out, and put them back together again. A beautiful, voluptuous African winged goddess appears: Isis! A winged goddess, Isis, wearing the vulture crown and a sun disk with cow horns, backing the Kushite Lion Throne of the seated king, Amanitenmemide. The goddess is depicted with exposed bosom, a symbol of fertility. https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/search.aspx?searchText=n17+meroe For comparison, here is the reconstructed relief from the other wall of the chapel, currently in Berlin: King Amanitenmemide himself! Edited January 12, 2019 by Sundiata 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samulis Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Detailed overview of the cultural and political interchange around ancient Nubia, and recent archaeological discoveries. Presented by Stuart Tyson Smith, UC Santa Barbara at the Oriental Institute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) @Samulis, very excellent! Thank you! The subject of cultural entanglement in Lower Nubia is a really interesting subject that's important to understanding the absorption of Kushite people, as well as aspects of their culture into Egypt as well as the Egyptian character of the later Kushite periods. That guy is more humble than he seems. His work is quite impressive! I referenced a bunch of his stuff here and there in this thread before... Really good stuff... I was unaware that the dates for an iron industry at Meroë had been pushed back so early (perhaps even 25th Dynasty), which is crazy and further emphasized the potential importance of Kush in understanding the spread of iron working cultures in Sub-Saharan Africa. That Mycenaean flask is crazy! It really illustrates the international character of Antiquity. The fact that it wasn't even a unique find says a lot. Such an early date... I've never seen anything like this piece before! Wow, this is awesomely unique! Kushites loved frogs... And Bes... It looks so fresh... Almost kitschy By the way, he doesn't really mention it clearly, but his findings at Tombos are mirrored in other sites like Kawa and Sedeinga, which all record influxes of Egyptians during the New Kingdom, who intermarried with Kushites, and this resulting Egyptian-Kushite population of Lower Nubia maintained a stable culture and population throughout the so-called Nubian Dark Ages, after which they were absorbed by the Napatan Kings, who simply maintained the local traditions. There's a crazy level of cultural continuity in Lower Nubia. It's almost like the New Kingdom never really ended there. But they were also really adaptive and unafraid to mix things up, in a sometimes almost comical way. Edited February 3, 2019 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) Queen Katimala, the first ruling Queen of Kush Queen Shanakdakheto is often cited as the first ruling queen of Kush. There are no ruling queens known from the Napatan period, and Shanakdakheto was indeed the first attested ruling queen of the Meroitic period. But in the long history of Kush, there was one before her, not often cited. Queen Katimala (sometimes Karimala), a Lower Nubian ruler, post-dates the collapse of the New Kingdom, but predates the establishment of the Napatan Dynasty. She is known from a single long inscription on the temple of Semna in Lower Nubia, on a repurposed wall previously used for other inscriptions. The Queen dates from a period known as the Nubian Dark Ages, a period mired in obscurity because of the lack of royal inscriptions and monumental architecture in this period. She doesn't seem to be Egyptian, her name having a close parallel in the Meroitic "Kdi-mel(ye)", but her relation to the later Napatan rulers is unclear as well. So is the extent of her rule, although we know that she ruled over at least 30 chiefs. From the text, she seems to be an embattled queen, referring to the Egyptian rulers to her north at Avaris as "Asiatics" and referring to the Kushite rulers to her south as "Nehesi". Her kingdom was facing recurring troubles described as chieftains who robbed gold and silver (perhaps desert nomads or rebellious chiefs). The King who ruled before her, and may have been her husband, was defeated in some conflict, and became unfit as a ruler ("stripped of his strength"), upon which Katimala assumed the throne and led a succesfull campaign against an enemy known as Makaresh. The inscription is basically a brutal rebuke of the (cowardly) rulers that preceded her, and a vindication of her own rule, based on her effectiveness in dealing with the threat facing her state, and of course, by the power of the almighty Amun. She was clearly a fierce woman! Quoting a random snippet from this 3000 year old inscription: "Aggression is bravery, retreat is wretchedness!" Read the entire inscription (in it's original form as well as the translation), accompanied by a lengthy discussion here: The Inscription of Queen Katimala at Semna: Textual Evidence for the Origins of the Napatan State (Yale Egyptological Studies) The_Inscription_of_Queen_Katimala_at_Sem.pdfFetching info... Edited February 3, 2019 by Sundiata 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Nice work just played the Kushites for the first time and they work. Units are comprehensive. Art is great. Also with a few tweaks they cover the rest of Africa. I've been a way working on other projects and my art skills. Life interrupts fun a lot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 12/08/2017 at 10:11 PM, Lion.Kanzen said: Ok backing to the topic https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/704397-16850 @Sundiata what you think this ? is nice introduction. Expand It does look like all the worlds historical RTS & TBS games are heading in the same direction. We are running low on untouched civilisations, empires and cultures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 The omniglot page on Meroïtic is interesting. Dr Clyde Winters is there and says its spoken form is derived from a buddist language, Kharosthi, or Kharoṣṭhī, from Pakistan/India imported into Egypt and Kush with trade goods. The video at the bottom.http://www.omniglot.com/writing/meroitic.htm If you google his name the first thing that comes up is an attack on him from a group that attacks some of my friends. So he might be trouble or he might be on target. He reads and translates all the available text on the video and it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 @Wesley “Dr” Clyde Winters is a fraudulent piece of garbage. Black Supremacist trash. Worthless scum… He has no academic expertise in ancient languages whatsoever. Some of his writings include: The Ancient Celts and Vikings were Black People The Sumerians were Black The Black Greeks The Blacks of China's First Civilization: The Xia Ancient African Kings of India African Empires in Ancient America (2013) The Ancient Black Civilizations of Asia (2013) Atlantis in Mexico: The Mande Discovery of America (2013) Meroitic Writing and Literature (2013) He also claims that the ancient inhabitants of Atlantis, as well as King James I of England were black... In addition to Meroitic, he also claims to have deciphered: Indus (Harappan) script Sumerian Olmec script Clyde Winters is a lier and a fraud. Nothing he writes is peer reviewed. The precursors of the Meroitic language have been spoken for thousands of years before Buddhism even existed. It's mostly Nilo-Saharan, evolving out of Proto-Nilo-Saharan with Afro Asiatic influences, and has nothing to do with Gandhara… If you want to learn about Meroitic, I suggest looking up the works of Dr. Claude Rilly, "Doctor in Egyptology and linguistics, and director of the French archaeological mission of Sedeinga (SEDAU), Co-editor of the Meroitic Newsletters, Member of the board of the International Society for Nubian Studies and of the Sudan Archaeological Research Society, he is also research fellow at the CNRS" Quote "Dr. Rilly is regarded as one of the world’s top specialists in Meroitic language and writing, about which he wrote his PhD thesis at the EPHE.(a higher education institution of training and research in humanities and social sciences). His research fields concern African linguistics, historical linguistics, Meroitic studies and North Eastern Sudanic languages in a comparative approach." Expand https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/the-meroitic-language-and-writing-system/D1534C93DCCA955D82E0594CE92598FC Clyde Winters on the other hand is a major source of misinformation. A very toxic individual. A disrupter. One of many ugly stains on the internet. He makes a living out of duping gullible people of African decent. I have come across his garbage on numerous occasions, and I shudder every time. Basically I hate him… This website is dedicated to debunking individuals like him: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clyde_Winters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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