Suggestions for 0 A.D.

[Ceres]

2 hours ago, soloooy0 said:

... the Carthaginians are quite profitable against any civ now, between arrows and catapults, they can advance little by little, but they will destroy anyone. ...

"Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam."

(Marcus Porcius Cato, the Elder, 234–149 BC)

[Belisarius17]

Hi, I would like to see a faction representing the Ilirians, The Pirrians, the Numidians, The Phoenicians, and the Germanic tribes...I Like the Gauls and Britons, but I also would like to see the Germans as well as their own faction in the game,  

Edited May 28, 2021 by Belisarius17

[Lion.Kanzen]

28 minutes ago, Belisarius17 said:

Hi, I would like to see a faction representing the Ilirians, The Pirrians, the Numidians, The Phoenicians, and the Germanic tribes...I Like the Gauls and Britons, but I also would like to see the Germans as well as their own faction in the game,  

https://play0ad.com/game-info/factions/

The first edition of 0 A.D. will allow the player to control any of 13 ancient civilizations from the pre-common era. Each culture will be represented at the peak of its civilization, somewhere along the timeline of 500 B.C. to 1 B.C.

 

We have decided to call this first edition “0 A.D. – Empires Ascendant”. In future editions of the game, we hope to represent notable civilizations from 1 A.D. to 500 A.D. The list will not be finalized until the first edition has gone gold, but some possible civilizations include Late Rome, Imperial Rome or Eastern Rome, the Germanics, Vandals, Sarmatians, Saxons, Parthians, Huns, Dacians, and the Goths.

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

2 hours ago, Belisarius17 said:

The Pirrians, the Numidians, The Phoenicians, and the Germanic tribes.

"Pirrians" ? You mean the mollossian epirots surely but no way they are too close to macedon both culturally and strategy wise, maybe in the future could be a hero idk as he did rule macedon very briefly. The numidians are inserted in the carthage faction as well as phoenicians , i mean Tyre is know for the dye and being besieged like all the time.

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 hour ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

"Pirrians" ? You mean the mollossian epirots surely but no way they are too close to macedon both culturally and strategy wise, maybe in the future could be a hero idk as he did rule macedon very briefly. The numidians are inserted in the carthage faction as well as phoenicians , i mean Tyre is know for the dye and being besieged like all the time.

In the mods there are several of those factions.

[Grapjas]

A 'Read more' button in the mod selection download screen when selecting a mod would be nice. Directing the user to the mod on mod.io. (or place/call the full discription from mod.io in a new window ingame if thats possible)

[Ceres]

Unless I've overseen it, but could a day/night cycle be something yet worth to implement? The idea is that attacking at night might have some kind of a surprise bonus for the attackers, as their opponents see them only later at night than at day. Could this have too many downsides for the overall balance of the game?

[Ceres]

How about some extra functions for the mini map? E.g. the possibility to toggle some items of interest like show only enemies or only allies or only neutral civs, emphasize locations of civic centres (or make them more visible in general?), show paths of patrolling units or merchants, etc. (If that makes sense on the mini map at all).

Edited May 31, 2021 by Ceres

[Lion.Kanzen]

5 minutes ago, Ceres said:

Unless I've overseen it, but could a day/night cycle be something yet worth to implement? The idea is that attacking at night might have some kind of a surprise bonus for the attackers, as their opponents see them only later at night than at day. Could this have too many downsides for the overall balance of the game?

Performance... I guess.

[Ceres]

Yes, I should have considered this as well.

[happyconcepts]

9 hours ago, Ceres said:

How about some extra functions for the mini map? E.g. the possibility to toggle some items of interest like show only enemies or only allies or only neutral civs, emphasize locations of civic centres (or make them more visible in general?), show paths of patrolling units or merchants, etc. (If that makes sense on the mini map at all).

@Ceres but performance issues aside, I like your suggestions and perhaps some could be tried in a mod if its too intensive for the base version of 0 a.d.

[Stan`]

10 hours ago, Ceres said:

Unless I've overseen it, but could a day/night cycle be something yet worth to implement? The idea is that attacking at night might have some kind of a surprise bonus for the attackers, as their opponents see them only later at night than at day. Could this have too many downsides for the overall balance of the game?

You can see some discussion here and there The sun rotation is currently not exposed to the simulation code, but it could be. However it seems that changing the sun position seems to have some performance issues. But it can be done like the water on the extinct volcano map.

10 hours ago, Ceres said:

How about some extra functions for the mini map? E.g. the possibility to toggle some items of interest like show only enemies or only allies or only neutral civs, emphasize locations of civic centres (or make them more visible in general?), show paths of patrolling units or merchants, etc. (If that makes sense on the mini map at all).

For the minimap we're working on the ability to ping players see https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1751

There are a few tickets but no one is working on it https://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/6151

Here is the original plan https://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/57

[happyconcepts]

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1751  "unhandled exception" in both firefox and chrome 

 

@Stan`

Edited May 31, 2021 by happyconcepts
Still unhandled exception for changeset

[Stan`]

Ah you might need to log in. We haven't figured out why.

[Edwarf]

Team Ranking could help for next alpha balancing

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

5 minutes ago, Edwarf said:

Team Ranking could help for next alpha balancing

 

You mean A26. we are ready to release A25.

[Edwarf]

yes

 

[Edwarf]

25 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

You mean A26. we are ready to release A25.

yes

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

On 27/05/2021 at 3:50 AM, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

yeah but nobody plays iberians now

Interestingly enough, iber are one of the most capable cav civs in a24, among pers seles and gauls. Skirm cav champs are powerful vs everything and can take out buildings. If you bulk the army with plenty of spearcav and skirmcav it is a deadly combo, since it is much easier to keep the fire-cav champs alive. Indibil hero makes all units cheaper and you can reliably keep him alive all game, every game. 

However

• Ibers lack a mega-good cavalry hero like pers or seles
• Ibers lack a few small upgrades for stable (not a big deal)
• Ibers have a limited selection of CS cavs: just skirm and spear
• Ibers don't have extra 20 pop like pers do and they don't have archer cavs like sele or pers.

Conclusion: Seles are only a good cav civ because of archer cavs+hero

I think seleucids should definitely get a spearcav :I. I would like to see seles get a less spammy option for cav.

 

Edited June 1, 2021 by BreakfastBurrito_007

[Lion.Kanzen]

37 minutes ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:

yeah but nobody plays iberians now

I played them by chance last time, the Kushites destroy me  I saw myself unable to turn the game around, I saw myself humiliated.

 

I must clarify that was in the Thorfin's mod.

Not much difference with A24 / 25 by the way.

 

I'll play again to see if it was just an negligence by me.

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

@Lion.Kanzen

well, in general, non-archer civs lose to archer civs for a24. I hope that this is not a strong trend for a25. If a25 is more exciting and balanced in play, I think it is a great position to make progress with civ differentiation.

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

4 minutes ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:

@Lion.Kanzen

well, in general, non-archer civs lose to archer civs for a24. I hope that this is not a strong trend for a25. If a25 is more exciting and balanced in play, I think it is a great position to make progress with civ differentiation.

 

I did not see any change unfortunately.

 

Just small changes and now the elephants have area damage.

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

oh well, back to being a pincushion for A25 then hehehe.

@BreakfastBurrito_007 I don't think antiochus iii is a good cav hero, indibil is way better since he cuts both the cost and opportunity cost of making cav.

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

Honestly i see no reason to not nerf ranged units to the ground, don't take this the wrong way as i am not ranting, but because ranged units will always have range ( duh) and will always be good in defending something and even better when in large groups. But right now i feel it is very difficult to exploit and punish a ranged army( not even an archer based army , even a 65 skirms and 20 spears army) for being out of position but this may also be to due to the fact that setting up defenses is rather easy and you aint gonna do jack **** to defensive buildings without siege.

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

8 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

I did not see any change unfortunately.

 

Just small changes and now the elephants have area damage.

hmm I might be understanding the diff things wrong, but I thought I saw one that increases spread by .5 and makes them a bit slower than slingers and even slower than skirms. I think it was -.6/0/+.6. I hope the archer changes are enough to counterbalance the ele changes, because right now if eles were any more op, I think we would ban mauryans in 4v4s.