Alexandermb

Its beautiful you saved me some time of 3D work, @Lion.Kanzen what you have in mind for the spherical back shield?

slightly moved further the prop weapon_R bone, added more frontal lenght when stabbing. Spart_hoplites_attack_Animations.7z

@Lion.Kanzen this works for greeks spearman? take a look in atlas using the mod only the spart_infantry_spearman_e has the variant with the attacking animations: Spart_hoplites_attack_Animations.7z

i hope so it will need some balance changes but that remains in the hands of stan, mine is just artistic work, programming, balance or history knowledge is in yours.

Some small tweaks to do, but is for have an idea:

May i ask how long is your axe? i would like to know the lenght for make a single 2h animation instead of other animations for every kind of axe, for now i'm using the danish axe from millenium ad

and for archers or javelin units.

Heres from other angles

thats something like the right animation in the first post, but the cardio for basic tired unit works, but for armed unit won't work too much, they rest their arms too much by laying in the thighs, for the infantry is needed something carrying staffs or a shield.

tired for later campaing use.

i was working on it, maybe is time to resume it i left for learn more how armature works on four legged animals like in the horse last patch i uploaded, but now i think i could do it. Walking running and idle even feeding was already done, but i had strong problems with the attack animations.

theres a lot of strong material in that video, cavalry animations, running animations, props.

Another good point of having several walking types, other walk animations i have in mind is crouched slow walking when hunting wild fauna animals (Gazelle, deer), wolfs, lions and other wild dangerous animals should have another behavior variant for walking types, a wolf should run fast when attacking units, lions should run for attack units, crocodiles won't gonna run, if we have leopard or hiena they could be even more faster and more dangerous, none of them should just walk for attack an unit and always should chase the infantry if someone approach their territory.

i could add an arrow struck in the body by using the same hands prop points like this, but it could look weird a battle swordsman against swordsman and suddendly a guy have an arrow in his stomach and says: “I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.”, But if the death by unit type come some day it could fit.

There is a lot of factors that could be added for make this works for example: if units is slowed down by injuries then javelins cavalry and archers will be stronger from afar right? Deadly as they should be, alright then as i proposed before the different walking type animation when the unit is "combat_approaching" is crucial to make a shielded unit type change from relax mary poppyins walking animation to something similar to this: a front shield walking/jog/running animation covering from the fire of the arrows and add a bonus to shield bearer units against arrows but if the unit isn't using a shield wich they are quite low in 0AD they wouldn't have bonus defense. I could do the animations whitout problems. Cavalry should always be dangerous for an injured batallion no mather wich animation they use or how slow are them, same as arrows. players will think it twice forcing a fight if they have planned retreat when their units reach dangerous hp level, defending players will be more stronger of course but that will force the attacking player to use more siege weapons. Variety, mechanics, strong strategy choices, realism, i don't see where it could fail after all big games like AoE DE have clipping and weird animations in some things and people don't criticize it, total war have the strong staring love story between units in a battle when they remain like 10 seconds looking each other before attempt a hit, AoE 2 switch weapons from left to right depending of the walking direction, Dawn of War have the moral System and is very good, battle realms have the injure animations as @wackyserious mentioned and i remember when i used to play it long time ago and never payed to much attention to the little details. Nowadays if the game is low poly like 0 AD but good looking it matters more the mechanics, complexity and performance than the animations changes but it always attract more people the new features no matter how small they are. Btw if this kind of units or structures are planned a simple arrow damage type protection small aura could make it work too.

I'm using the same leg's movement of the unit animations left in the animations and meshes blender file available in the art repo. and they will look drunk or tired until the blood is added then it will look injured.]

Just in case it can be reached the knocked status:

Injured Archer:

Injured Swordsman: Comparison:

Injured Spearman: Comparison:

i would like to have some help in references over here, this is something i wanted to do before and as mentioned by @wackyserious i think its time to do so heres the first one recently done after read the topic

i was looking for that game some time ago and i wasn't able to remember the name.

I put two cavalry close in the atlas using as minimum range 20 for the archer cavalry and the spear cavalry still killed the archer whitout losing more than 30% hp.

it was the mesh having some wrong edges but it ended having more tris. Files: Brit_shield.7z

Some files are unused, i moved the used cavalry animations to the biped/cavalry folder i assume someday the biped/new will be merged into biped only i think it will be better to have a folder for specific rider or garrison types. i know you don't have a lot of free time so you want me to update the whole chinese cavalry and merge them into the crossbow and shoushe committ? also i didn't know the zebu was only using the white textures here i leave the others 2 i've made some time ago while making the xiongnu. Not yet, the texture is needed.