Alexandermb

Something like this?

@Lion.Kanzen i see, then most of the changes are just the crest and ornaments, btw that serpent looks great.

Wich are the other 10 variations ?

Used a tutorial of youtube for make a bronze material:

Been trying to get the bronze game look, didn't have luck yet maybe stanislas have a material saved somewhere in a blend file of the others helmets he committed.

Just made a corinthian helmet or at least something similar to give some love for the old 2010 helmets of the spartan units:

That reminds me the drakthar i've made long time ago with visible units, i hope to see that working in a future.

Winged added: Horse_new_armor_used.7z

Winged B progress:

Will make 2 winged version, i have 2 references one says later 5th century, but stills looks good and offers a good range of vision for reference the other i can see just a side and how it is inside but this does fit with the cavalry champion pers.

Now are synced: Horse_new_armor_used.7z, The chariots actors (the charioth mesh itself) tells the horses to play death 1 all or death 2 all animations, the seleucid was working perfect so i applied the same for the others chariots.

Yes i left some time because had a work here after the last kushites update, i'll keep doing more for the heroes left. About chariots i used before only 1 of 2 animations because i didn't wanted to make it overlap one horse above other, but i had to change that in order to sync like the persian chariots. Duplication is because they are using the same root prop point, so when they start running the dust particle delete everything in the root attach point and place overthem leaving the horses whitout armors or blankets. That will be only on this horses as i added a root bone on the other armature i'm working on and added a decal prop point attached to it, so as soon everything is exported from the armature update the duplicate props can be deleted too. Screenshot of the root bone and prop point: The winged could reach the alpha 23 and reduce a lot the tris, but i may ask wich unit will use it ? i was thinking it was going to keep saved like the cataphract.

@stanislas69 heres with the last screenshots posted. Horse_new_armor_used.7z

Btw, theres a lot of things that needs to be learned before reach here, it gets complicated but once its learned is just a tedious copy and paste tedious work.

they are going for alpha 24 or 23? if its for alpha 24 i'll keep cleaning the horse before i forgot what i am doing . (happens offten with the more almost 1k blend files i have specially if they are rigged)

Sure, are those references up there?

Actually i followed one, the thing is how to look for them in youtube if you look for physics or collision you get basic meshes destroying bricks, but just recently founded one called Ragdoll and i remember Ragdoll is a word in skyrim used too for the collisions of the dead body. this is the best far i founded for work in sync with 0 AD because the animations can be recorded into the skeleton.

i'll will take it into account now that i have started reanimating the horse and riders, first i will be doing the horse animations plus more natural wildlife idles with a expanded version of the horse then i'll go again for the riders with the new blankets/armors. After some time looking the animations i noticed a lot of weird distortions and the wrong placement of bones are one of the causes so i decided to add more bones and make a cleaner horse symmetrical to the X axis (wich this doesn't have), since i already got the animations base shapes is easier and faster to make them again, i already have the base for gallop and walking in the new one and they are far more cleaner than before in the expanded armature. Btw I've learned how to make collisions for death animations work similar to enrique's last video so i will try using collisions and physics blender engine to make a more natural like death animations and hair.

Done.

now is just the head prop missing.

Some similar colour to the references, gold and bronze.

This is what it will look like, missing the saddle. (changed the texture of the right horse for comparisson)

What fits better? the actual desing, or the reference one?

@Sundiata i haven't forgot of the kush, but i may need your help here: what is exactly the shiny things ? i will make them as a basic_trans object or if it doesn't take too many tris i'll make each circle with a 6 corners planes with player colour belts.

Thats for sure coming, but will have to wait until alpha 24, last time i did the horse + riders animations took months to fully commit, making the rein means make again every rider animation to match the rein position, but at least is something i have in mind since i have to modify every animation to fit with the horse armors.