Making mauryas's vishkanya aura based unit

[Darkcity]

I think given the historical context vishkanya units should be aura based units instead of archers. We already have similar units in Gauls (Trumpeter) which reduces the attacks of units by 10%. For vishkanya's I have smilar suggestion instead of reducing attack, they will reduce health by 1 dps in their range. They will be like anti healers. Following stats can be added for them.

• Cost: 180 food, 120 metal, pop 1, 24 sec train time
• Health 100
• Poison: 1, 10 meters, 1 second

It will be really interesting to do stealth play. Scenario plays

1. Sneaking vishkanya among working units. Killing them over time.
2. Combing with melee units for extra damage
3. Great in playing dedensive as weak units will die under their influence.

@borg-, @rossenburg, @Grapjas , and @alre, what do you guys think?

[Darkcity]

Nobody interested in adding historical stealth units in the game or idea not interesting enough?

Edited July 28, 2022 by Darkcity

[Stan`]

3 minutes ago, Darkcity said:

Nobody interested in adding historical stealth units in the game or idea not interesting enough?

There a ticket for it. 3177

[Darkcity]

Can you please share the link to code item? Would like to check details.

19 minutes ago, Stan` said:

There a ticket for it. 3177

 

[Yekaterina]

@Darkcity given their historical background, I suggest we make them a special unit which only targets enemy heroes and kills the hero unit in 1 hit, by close quarter poison.

Later on we can expand their hit list to champion units and elite units

[Darkcity]

27 minutes ago, Sevda said:

I suggest we make them a special unit which only targets enemy heroes and kills the hero unit in 1 hit, by close quarter poison.

I mean units trained only for hero would make them less useful. For starter we should have atleast for hero and champios, with special damage for heros. one hit kill is too op, just more damage will do. Later we can allow them to affect normal unit for stealth play, and special damage to heros and champions. Along with hisotircal trait we shhould also focus on gameplay. 

But again for starter if we are considering this implementation then great. 

[Gurken Khan]

Another Visha Kanya discussion. We still have two different units with that name and neither fits their historical description.

I like @Darkcity's idea of an anti-healer unit; maybe we should use the melee variant for that. It could have a general poison aura and 5x against heroes and champions.

Since we didn't get the camouflage the last seven years, I'm not too optimistic we'll get it within the next seven.

Here's @Yekaterina's previous Visha Kanya thread:

 

[Darkcity]

20 minutes ago, Gurken Khan said:

maybe we should use the melee variant for that.

Yeah. We can give them poison dagger. By default they will be in  passive stance but you can make them attack with dagger (damage can be decided). 

[maroder]

1 hour ago, Gurken Khan said:

Since we didn't get the camouflage the last seven years, I'm not too optimistic we'll get it within the next seven.

there is https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4291

which could be repurposed/ expanded for general units.

But that's a whole other discussion about how exactly stealth should work

[Gurken Khan]

32 minutes ago, maroder said:

there is https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4291

"How not to be seen." I would imagine a reworked Visha Kanya not to carry around a shrubbery / wear a ghillie suit. But maybe...

Spoiler

 

[maroder]

the concept is the same engine wise, just a unit that is not automatically targeted by other units / buildings. The shrubbery is just the excuse to allow it.

Because why wouldn't a unit be noticed, if it is not hidden by something.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Or just rename them. The two: Maiden Guard and Poison Maiden (a semi-mythical unit) are conflated only because Maurya already had a ton of Champs. But since we are into differentiation now, we can perhaps officially make them 2 separate units. The Maiden Guard can remain a sword unit that can toggle the bow, and the Poison Maiden can be some kind of suicide assassin unit.

Edited July 28, 2022 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[Lion.Kanzen]

On 28/07/2022 at 1:48 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

kind of suicide assassin unit.

There should be a knife-wielding assassin class like Judean Zealots and have bonus vs heroes+ poison attack.

Perhaps they would move fast and the combat would be very close. Like AoE Karambit.