Building panel order

[maroder]

Hey everyone,

one question regarding the UI, specifically about the order the buildings are displayed in the building tab.

Do you prefer if they are sorted:

Left: First by function (eco, trade, unit production, defense ect...) and then by strength / phase

or

Right: First by phase and then by function

[Gurken Khan]

Maybe right? I think I'm kinda used to stuff like Gymnasions and Arsenals show up towards the end of the list. But I never consciously got the specific order and probably could go with whatever.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

It would be nice if each phase got its own row. (1st row is village, second is town, third is city)

^a problem would be how to fit a bunch of village icons in one row.

[nifa]

what about sorting in columns by function and in lines by phase like this:

1. column is civic

2. economic

3. military

4. fortification

[chrstgtr]

  On 27/07/2022 at 12:46 AM, nifa said:

what about sorting in columns by function and in lines by phase like this:

1. column is civic

2. economic

3. military

4. fortification

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I think this splits the baby relatively well. But, again, I don't care and will get used to whatever is decided by the people who actually care. 

[maroder]

  On 27/07/2022 at 12:46 AM, nifa said:

what about sorting in columns by function and in lines by phase like this:

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Yes, but how do we fit that into the tab on our minimum resolution?

 

 

[Darkcity]

  On 27/07/2022 at 7:05 AM, maroder said:

Yes, but how do we fit that into the tab on our minimum resolution?

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What if we do it in rows instead of columns? Should fit right? 

[rossenburg]

  On 27/07/2022 at 12:46 AM, nifa said:

what about sorting in columns by function and in lines by phase like this:

1. column is civic

2. economic

3. military

4. fortification

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 function (eco, trade, unit production, defense etc...)  is pretty well and seems organized.

Edited July 27, 2022 by rossenburg

[phosit]

I don't know what this "man throwing a discus" is. I'm a noob i know 
I start a new game:
If it is ordered by function i know it produces units and in is enabled on phase 2 or 3 (since it is disabled on phase 1)
If it is ordered by phase i know only that it is enabled on phase 2 or 3 (since it is between a building of phase 2 and one of phase 3)

Edited July 27, 2022 by phosit
Sent to soon

[nifa]

  On 27/07/2022 at 1:16 AM, chrstgtr said:

I think this splits the baby relatively well. But, again, I don't care and will get used to whatever is decided by the people who actually care. 

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well, it's basically the template/ classes order. I think it will mostly be an improvement for beginners

  On 27/07/2022 at 7:05 AM, maroder said:

Yes, but how do we fit that into the tab on our minimum resolution?

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It's the same number of portraits in the same space. You can check, no change of the size. It would be 8 or 9 portraits per line instead of 10; but the columns are better filled up with 3 portraits, while in the original 7 out of 10 columns contain only 2 portraits.

Edited July 27, 2022 by nifa

[Gurken Khan]

  On 27/07/2022 at 10:09 AM, phosit said:

I don't know what this "man throwing a discus" is.

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Hi noob!

It's the symbol for the Gymnasion, an Athenian building to train champions.

[maroder]

  On 27/07/2022 at 11:35 AM, nifa said:

It's the same number of portraits in the same space. You can check, no change of the size. It would be 8 or 9 portraits per line instead of 10; but the columns are better filled up with 3 portraits, while in the original 7 out of 10 columns contain only 2 portraits.

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does indeed look nice.

The next problem would be that you can select buildings at the same time as units:

which makes it additionally harder to fit everything into separate columns. And we give the player no information about what building belongs in which phase, which might make it more difficult for new players to understand what to build to be able to phase up?

[borg-]

For me 3 horizontal lines, one for each phase would be the best way (Phase > Function). In any case, muscle memory should be able to accept any other chosen pattern.

Edited July 27, 2022 by borg-

[Darkcity]

  On 27/07/2022 at 3:13 PM, maroder said:

which makes it additionally harder to fit everything into separate columns

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@maroder what about hotizontal arrangement of the same? Since we can have 4 rows, we can afford 4 categories. If possible then good else phase wise separation also looks good. Thanks...

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

  On 27/07/2022 at 12:46 AM, nifa said:

what about sorting in columns by function and in lines by phase like this:

1. column is civic

2. economic

3. military

4. fortification

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Major problem with this is for mods.

[phosit]

I remember a ticket were they talked about distuinguish phase by backgroundcollor.

[nifa]

  On 27/07/2022 at 3:13 PM, maroder said:

The next problem would be that you can select buildings at the same time as units:

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I don't know why someone should do that, but it's maybe in this case the pattern could be broken up?

  On 27/07/2022 at 4:24 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Major problem with this is for mods.

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true, maybe also in this case the pattern could be inactive

  On 27/07/2022 at 3:45 PM, Darkcity said:

what about hotizontal arrangement of the same? Since we can have 4 rows, we can afford 4 categories. If possible then good else phase wise separation also looks good. Thanks...

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  On 27/07/2022 at 3:21 PM, borg- said:

For me 3 horizontal lines, one for each phase would be the best way (Phase > Function). In any case, muscle memory should be able to accept any other chosen pattern.

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the problem with differention by row is, that if 10 portraits fit into one row, with 11 buildings you would already need 2 rows and would have 9 unused spots in the second row. While with columns of 3, the need for space is less. If there are 4, then it would be 3 + 1, so only 2 unused spots. Also there are already 13 buildings for phase 1 for the Athenians e.g.

  On 27/07/2022 at 3:13 PM, maroder said:

And we give the player no information about what building belongs in which phase

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One block for each phase:

 

Sorted by function, how it looks in village phase:

How it looks in city phase:

so the late buildings are all downwards, i hope that'd be intuitive enough

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 27/07/2022 at 4:24 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Major problem with this is for mods.

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They should try the mayan mod, it would be crazy.

There are too many icons and buildings.

[Lion.Kanzen]

I think it should be divided into civil and military on different panels.(like AoE 2).