Alpha 26 Pre-release/Release Candidate Build Testing

[Stan`]

  On 09/08/2022 at 3:59 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I've already said that the tech descriptions are too sparse. Not descriptive enough. Thanks Nescio.

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Can't let you blame him for that  

0ad/long_walls.json at f314b5b9d2be852a4d25f4b9ef40ab4acf4f2002 · 0ad/0ad (github.com)

You are actually responsible for that tooltip :p

0ad/special_long_walls.json at 41850b576087f973ea647140dc0a055ed922872c · 0ad/0ad (github.com)

Adds "Long Walls" tech for Athenians. · 0ad/0ad@474a19a (github.com)

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

  On 09/08/2022 at 5:30 PM, Stan` said:

Can't let you blame him for that  

0ad/long_walls.json at f314b5b9d2be852a4d25f4b9ef40ab4acf4f2002 · 0ad/0ad (github.com)

You are actually responsible for that tooltip :p

0ad/special_long_walls.json at 41850b576087f973ea647140dc0a055ed922872c · 0ad/0ad (github.com)

Adds "Long Walls" tech for Athenians. · 0ad/0ad@474a19a (github.com)

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I don't see the commit when it was I who changed it to its current tooltip.

Original (Dec 8, 2012):

"Build stone walls in neutral territory. Stone walls -50% build time."

Then (Jul 20, 2013): 

"Build stone walls in neutral territory."

Then (Jan 15, 2021): 

"Build Walls in own or neutral territory."

 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Long Walls

• "Allow the Athenians to build their Stone Walls in neutral territory."

This is spicier^ 

[Stan`]

  On 09/08/2022 at 10:02 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I don't see the commit when it was I who changed it to its current toolt

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I mean it was still bland before own was added for completeness ^^

[Gurken Khan]

  On 09/08/2022 at 10:54 PM, Stan` said:

completeness

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tbh I see it more as being redundant than complete.

 

Since those friggin fences and benches have an owner, why aren't they capture-able? I really wish they would just decay to me so I could delete them, instead of having to get a team to destroy them. Isn't that also avoidable micro and thus against the design document?

Edit: Oh, I guess the benches are capture-able:

So please, do something about those fences.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Gurken Khan

[Stan`]

@maroder

  On 09/08/2022 at 11:19 PM, Gurken Khan said:

tbh I see it more as being redundant than complete.

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No strong feeling. Given that some building can only be built in neutra territory it seems to me like it might be useful to some people not used to the game.

[Player of 0AD]

Kushites cannot train or unlock champions in captured Han stables. I think this is not consistent and it doesnt only apply only for kushites. Maybe same also for barracks.

[Stan`]

  On 11/08/2022 at 5:24 PM, Player of 0AD said:

Kushites cannot train or unlock champions in captured Han stables. I think this is not consistent and it doesnt only apply only for kushites. Maybe same also for barracks.

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@maroder (I'm sorry)

  On 09/08/2022 at 11:19 PM, Gurken Khan said:

So please, do something about those fences.

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[Diffusion] rP27043 (wildfiregames.com)

[maroder]

  On 11/08/2022 at 5:24 PM, Player of 0AD said:

Kushites cannot train or unlock champions in captured Han stables. I think this is not consistent and it doesnt only apply only for kushites. Maybe same also for barracks.

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https://code.wildfiregames.com/rP27046

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

"Note that this also deletes the Han swordsman templates, as they are unused right now."
 

  

So many problems arise from the capture mechanic.

[maroder]

  On 11/08/2022 at 11:10 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Note that this also deletes the Han swordsman templates

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the other option would be to keep them with a different name, but having random templates with an "_unused" suffix or another random name seemed also bad imo.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

  On 11/08/2022 at 11:21 PM, maroder said:

the other option would be to keep them with a different name, but having random templates with an "_unused" suffix or another random name seemed also bad imo.

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It's just that these civs all had swords and it's a bummer that they at least can't have these units for Atlas.

[maroder]

by all means we can give them a different name and bring them back e.g. infantry_special_swordsman_b

Just the standard naming makes problems

[Gurken Khan]

Could we maybe get a different icon/portrait for the Harmya? That pair doesn't really tell me anything like palace/royalty.

@wowgetoffyourcellphone

[Archon]

Anyone have trouble getting the download past windows smart screen?

[Gurken Khan]

  On 13/08/2022 at 12:24 PM, Archon said:

Anyone have trouble getting the download past windows smart screen?

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Do you mean installing? There's an inconspicuous "Details", if you click on that you can install regardless. (0AD is not signed by MS.)

Edited August 13, 2022 by Gurken Khan

[Gurken Khan]

Jebel Barka threw a bunch of placement errors, but I wasn't quick enough to catch them and they don't seem to go into the logs?

[Player of 0AD]

Small but annoying bug: Athenian Gymnasion doesn't count as town building but as city building!

[Stan`]

  On 14/08/2022 at 7:59 AM, Player of 0AD said:

Small but annoying bug: Athenian Gymnasion doesn't count as town building but as city building!

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[Diffusion] rP27051 (wildfiregames.com)

[Grapjas]

  On 13/08/2022 at 10:42 PM, Gurken Khan said:

Jebel Barka threw a bunch of placement errors, but I wasn't quick enough to catch them and they don't seem to go into the logs?

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You can also open the console with `F9` and scroll with `PAGE UP` and `PAGE DOWN`.

EDIT: Also good to see players actually testing instead of just talking about it on the forum.

Edited August 14, 2022 by Grapjas

[maroder]

  On 13/08/2022 at 10:42 PM, Gurken Khan said:

Jebel Barka threw a bunch of placement errors, but I wasn't quick enough to catch them and they don't seem to go into the logs?

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https://code.wildfiregames.com/rP27052

[Philip the Swaggerless]

Things I saw while playing today:

Cartography and Diaspora icons are swapped.

Persian Immortals can move while upgrading changing weapons but have no animation.  So they don't run they just slide across the screen.

Running units do not round corners.  When making turns that are not even sharp they slow down and begin accelerating again.

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Philip the Swaggerless

[Stan`]

  On 15/08/2022 at 2:54 AM, Philip the Swaggerless said:

Things I saw while playing today:

Cartography and Diaspora icons are swapped.

Persian Immortals can move while upgrading changing weapons but have no animation.  So they don't run they just slide across the screen.

Running units do not round corners.  When making turns that are not even sharp they slow down and begin accelerating again.

 

 

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People felt icons were better swapped.

@maroder

@Freagarach

Not sure we can fix the last one. I once had a patch that prevented upgrading units from moving. [Differential] D2772 Prevent Upgrading units from moving (wildfiregames.com)

[maroder]

imo the should be moving while switching weapons (in the best case with an animation ofc). The question is if units should be moving while upgrading in general and if we are just misusing the upgrade mechanic in this case since we have no other option for weapon switching right now.

  On 15/08/2022 at 2:54 AM, Philip the Swaggerless said:

Running units do not round corners.  When making turns that are not even sharp they slow down and begin accelerating again.

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Running units did never round corners? It has always been straight lines and sharp turns.

And yes that the accelerate now is actually a feature.

[Philip the Swaggerless]

  On 15/08/2022 at 8:24 AM, maroder said:

 

Running units did never round corners? It has always been straight lines and sharp turns.

And yes that the accelerate now is actually a feature.

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Yes, but since there was no reduction in speed before it didn't feel wrong. It feels wrong to me now but maybe rounding of corners is out of the scope of these tests.