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Hes not joking (at least I tested this with the ptolemies which are similar to seleucids)

Maybe the limit exists because the 2 civs have military colonies, but it's super weird that the limit doesnt exist if you have a hero and that there is no information about this

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13 分钟前,Lion.Kanzen 说:

昨天我和他们一起玩所以...升级军事殖民地到完整的CC怎么样?

There is a difference in the footprint of the two. In fact, I don't think it's bad to keep the current state, but Colony should also be able to study P2 and P3, and be able to train heroes.

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8 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I don't think the feature itself is super weird, only that there's no detail in-game about it.

Maybe the feature is fine, but I think it's really bad there's no info.

Should be in the tooltip and maybe a loading screen.

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As someone who plays Seleucids pretty regularly these day, I actually never even knew about this. Unless I find myself playing a 1v1 on an inappropriately large map, the thought of building a new CC is one that never even occurs to me. The military colony is a superior building for expansions.

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1 hour ago, thephilosopher said:

the thought of building a new CC is one that never even occurs to me. The military colony is a superior building for expansions.

I like the MC, it's cheaper, faster to build & gives me access to archers. CCs give a larger area, though.

What bugged me more than (temporarily) not being able to build a CC was that I couldn't figure out why, so I decided to finally bring it up.

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The only plus side to this 'feature' that you the player gains is that if your opponent captures your colony and happens to be Romans (there may be others I woudn't know)  the only option for training from the building is women which may make holding on to it a little more difficult.

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1 hour ago, Gurken Khan said:

I like the MC, it's cheaper, faster to build & gives me access to archers. CCs give a larger area, though.

What bugged me more than (temporarily) not being able to build a CC was that I couldn't figure out why, so I decided to finally bring it up.

I'm glad you did bring it up! It's nice to know the options available.

The archer can be useful. The other MC unit I like is the merc melee infantry unit. It's a good unit to use against rams. The merc cav that comes out of the MC is, imo, pretty much useless, though. The champion cav out of the stable is way better.

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54 minutes ago, Stan` said:

Can't it be an interesting differentiation if made more explicit, or if it comes with bonii ?

I don't see the connection to the hero, but the total obscurity is what I really don't like. (I've actually been wondering for years why the CC button is greyed out and becomes available at some point. Even if we were to assume I wasn't the brightest candle on the cake, I don't think we should have mechanics that much in the dark.)

I think the MCs are already a strong bonus to the civs that have them, so I'd say please make it more explicit, but I don't think additional bonii are necessary. What could be reconsidered imho is the tie to the hero, which also means CCs aren't available until some time into p3.

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11 minutes ago, Gurken Khan said:

I don't see the connection to the hero, but the total obscurity is what I really don't like. (I've actually been wondering for years why the CC button is greyed out and becomes available at some point. Even if we were to assume I wasn't the brightest candle on the cake, I don't think we should have mechanics that much in the dark.)

I think the MCs are already a strong bonus to the civs that have them, so I'd say please make it more explicit, but I don't think additional bonii are necessary. What could be reconsidered imho is the tie to the hero, which also means CCs aren't available until some time into p3.

Supposedly these successor heroes from Macedonian Alexander founded cities.

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1 hour ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Supposedly these successor heroes from Macedonian Alexander founded cities.

Yeah, well I'm no historian, but what I get is that without Seleucus I we wouldn't have the Seleucids to begin with, and while Antiochus III was able to restore some, it kinda went downhill under Antiochus IV. So the connection with the available heroes to CCs doesn't seem too compelling to me.

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8 hours ago, Stan` said:

Can't it be an interesting differentiation if made more explicit, or if it comes with bonii ?

I think the differentiation is them being able to build a military colony. Also allowing the cc reduces the differentiation from my view :D

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2 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

im thinking we should have phase 4.

2 and 3 are short. 

having a 4th phase doesn't change phase 1 and 2 being short. One would need to redesign them so that they actually provide different gameplay options, instead of just being phases you rush through to p3. So I don't think that's a good argument.

I'm not against p4, but it has t be filled with something meaningful and unless most of DE's concepts are adapted I don't see this happening.

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1 minute ago, maroder said:

having a 4th phase doesn't change phase 1 and 2 being short. One would need to redesign them so that they actually provide different gameplay options, instead of just being phases you rush through to p3. So I don't think that's a good argument

I'm still thinking. I know that would not change the previous.

We should to test the requirements first expand technologies then...

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