Gurken Khan Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 @Angen@Freagarach@Stan`@wraitii& everyone else @WFG: Is there a revised schedule plan for a25? I believe the release of a25 was scheduled for the end of June, but then those 'nasty bugs', as Stan put it, became apparent. I'm quite happy with a25 RC2, so this is not a matter of anger or trying to put pressure on people. I have no idea about the progress on those nasty bugs, but I actually expect a RC3. Since the originally planned release date is dead anyway, I have a radical proposition: How about lifting the feature and string freeze, maybe until the end of July, so the actual a25 will be as shiny and flawless as possible? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gurken Khan said: How about lifting the feature and string freeze, maybe until the end of July, so the actual a25 will be as shiny and flawless as possible? I totally agree. There are many patches yet to be committed and there are major balancing issues to be resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted July 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Yekaterina said: I totally agree. There are many patches yet to be committed and there are major balancing issues to be resolved. Just between us two: Spoiler My gut tells me maybe we should have a new ff & sf deadline of end of August and plan for a release around end of September... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 My uni starts in October. By then I won't have much time for 0ad until my holidays... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 I will consider your proposal. It's not what I have in mind right now though. Most of the RBs have fixes that are waiting to be committed by their respective owners which are sometimes not active. My plan is to commit them ASAP and to release a RC3. Wait for some testers to make sure it's not broken still. Then publish the announcement and the trailer. Moving the deadline and lifting restrictions could be done but it has implications for translations and stability and the people that are currently active now are not the ones that would work in balancing. So pushing the release two months from now with no proof that anything of value would be done seems a bit dangerous to me. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrstgtr Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Stan` said: So pushing the release two months from now with no proof that anything of value would be done seems a bit dangerous to me. This. No reason not to let the next week or two play out and release the next alpha. The we start anew with an actually understanding of how the current RC looks. Delaying now just sets us up for this exact conversation again in 3 months. Meanwhile, a delay would also ensure that an unpopular alpha that has already resulted in the loss of several players unnecessarily remains around for even longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 20/07/2021 at 8:39 AM, chrstgtr said: This. No reason not to let the next week or two play out and release the next alpha. The we start anew with an actually understanding of how the current RC looks. Delaying now just sets us up for this exact conversation again in 3 months. Meanwhile, a delay would also ensure that an unpopular alpha that has already resulted in the loss of several players unnecessarily remains around for even longer. This is a good point. We can release A25 as RC3 then make A26 come shortly after if A25 does not work out. We can make A26 a balancing and bug fix alpha instead of packing in many new contents, then put the fun stuff into A27. Good news: Havran, Yarok and Metafoundations are back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 20/07/2021 at 8:15 AM, Stan` said: My plan is to commit them ASAP and to release a RC3. Wait for some testers to make sure it's not broken still. Then publish the announcement and the trailer. Sounds good. 2 hours ago, Yekaterina said: This is a good point. We can release A25 as RC3 then make A26 come shortly after if A25 does not work out. We can make A26 a balancing and bug fix alpha instead of packing in many new contents, then put the fun stuff into A27. Or we'll do an a25b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 So far only remaining is replay filter (not blocking )and translations, (blocking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Gurken Khan said: Or we'll do an a25b. I thought about this. But sometimes people can't distinguish between A25a and A25b and when they have the wrong version they OOS. Please remember that Ubuntu apt package manager is still on A23 right now... there is no way it can tell apart A25a and A25b... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 50 minutes ago, Yekaterina said: I thought about this. But sometimes people can't distinguish between A25a and A25b and when they have the wrong version they OOS. Please remember that Ubuntu apt package manager is still on A23 right now... there is no way it can tell apart A25a and A25b... I only had that idea because there's an a24b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 A23 Had a B version too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyconcepts Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Will the new version be playable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silier Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 define playable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 @Yekaterina I went into single player for RC2 and tried doing the charge vs AI, but I could not seem to make it happen. Will formations be required to use the charge mechanic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, BreakfastBurrito_007 said: @Yekaterina I went into single player for RC2 and tried doing the charge vs AI, but I could not seem to make it happen. Will formations be required to use the charge mechanic? It's not a mechanic it's a side effect of formations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Ah, well that explains a lot. It seems when I set them to violent and just walk the formation without the attack order, they charge after they reach the move order destination. Could you imagine using skiritai like this? :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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