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[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 21/06/2019 at 4:43 PM, coworotel said:

I don't know if you guys heard of this project called openage, but it is interesting to see that in their desired feature list there are many things that are in 0 A.D. and some that are planned for it.

https://github.com/SFTtech/openage/blob/master/doc/ideas/fr_technical_overview.md

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[borg-]

  On 21/06/2019 at 4:43 PM, coworotel said:

I don't know if you guys heard of this project called openage, but it is interesting to see that in their desired feature list there are many things that are in 0 A.D. and some that are planned for it.

https://github.com/SFTtech/openage/blob/master/doc/ideas/fr_technical_overview.md

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New Unit: monk ship on water to convert ships

lul

[Lion.Kanzen]

an Hybrid or RTT?

 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

  On 21/06/2019 at 4:43 PM, coworotel said:

I don't know if you guys heard of this project called openage, but it is interesting to see that in their desired feature list there are many things that are in 0 A.D. and some that are planned for it.

https://github.com/SFTtech/openage/blob/master/doc/ideas/fr_technical_overview.md

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I don't understand.

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openage uses the original game assets (such as sounds and graphics), but (for obvious reasons) doesn't ship them. To play, you require an original AoE II : TC installation or AoE II: HD (installation via Wine or Steam-Linux).

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So, basically are they just porting AOEIIHD over to Linux or what?

[Guest]

FOSS genie engine to be frank.

Porting proprietary games is something people are quite fond of.

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 17/07/2019 at 6:41 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I don't understand.

So, basically are they just porting AOEIIHD over to Linux or what?

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They are adding new features.

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• Dynamic change of weather, seasons, day and night. Influence on terrain & line of sight (LOS). could be influenced by players with monk/myth unit.
• Wooden buildings and other flammable material can be lit, fire spreads around your city. fire departments (new building) to extinguish fires or villagers need to put out a fire of with water from a well (new building).
• Wild animals can steal food from your farms and food resources:

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Wolves form pack and act together, wander the map, circle around towns, get hungry and seek food (deer, villagers, wild boar, bear, etc.).
GAIA	G5	Renewable resources such as trees and animals that repopulate. Forest regeneration or seeding.
GAIA	G6	Buildings in later ages cost stone with possibility of deep mining stone. villagers can dig/mine natural resources.
GAIA	G7	Better fauna (Tapir, Tiger, ...). Improved animal colours
GAIA AI	GI1	Fish migrate and replenish.
GAIA AI	GI2	Mercenaries could be hired on behalf of the player
Gameplay	GM1	Roads on commonly traveled areas allow faster travel. Pathfinding would let the units stay on the road. Appearance and quality depends on traffic (matted grass, dirt path, etc.). Neutral to all players. Turns soft/regular terrains into roads, requires stone, does not work on irregular terrains; grants movement speed to all allied units + passive vision (like a foundation spots units walking over them).
Gameplay	GM2	Bridges for connections between islands. Blocks ships, allows land units to walk on. Terraforming. Wooden and stone bridges with different hp.
Gameplay	GM3	Canals: creates empty, shallow and navigatable water.
Gameplay	GM4	Single units can hide/bunk in the forest, only visible to a certain type of unit. Garrison function with no symbol, you can lose your units if you don't remember them.
Gameplay	GM5	New Unit: spies (can burn down your city), lame your production
Gameplay	GM6	New Unit: monk ship on water to convert ships
Gameplay	GM7	New Unit: transport waggon on land to slowly transport ships over land
Gameplay	GM8	Villagers need sleep at night, die at work (New Building: Caffeine industry)
Gameplay	GM9	GAIA and terrain interaction, e.g. flock of bird rises up from tree when tree is felled or many people approach, hearable sound indicator, players hear and see birds when someone comes to their woodline at home. Triggered rocks falling of cliffs.
Gameplay	GM10	Relics have special abilities (AOM), bonuses for attack and range. Generated randomly. Maybe also rolling relics with ranged attributes to bring into battle.
Gameplay	GM11	Bring Kings/Queens into battle for special abilities within some tiles radius.
Gameplay	GM12	Building produces in loop (AOM) as long as resources and pop space are available. Useful for unit prudction and farms in mill. Indicator over buildings or somewhere in the GUI for loop production. Toggle reseeding on/off.
Gameplay	GM13	Mills can produce sheep, cows, turkeys
Gameplay	GM14	"Conversion is enabled by researching Faith. Before, monks can only carry relics and heal units.
Gameplay	GM15	Buildings can be deconstructed to recover materials, slower than destroying. Leave a salvage pile behind. Salvage diminishes over time. Salvage can be collected by villagers at a higher rate than other resources.
Gameplay	GM16	Buildings can be captured when damaged to 20% or less. Player who repairs over 20% owns the building. New units can be produced out of this captured building from 50% on.
Gameplay	GM17	Attack/defense bonuses for some unit formations. Dependent on minimum amount of units in this formation. New marching formation with speed bonus but defense malus. Cavalry flanking.
Gameplay	GM18	Researches only affect newly produced units. Old ones need to be manually upgraded/retrained at production building.
Gameplay	GM19	Scale wonder cost to max pop, number of players and available resources.
Gameplay	GM20	A new 5th "free trade" age where allies share resources and give each other massive battles.
Gameplay	GM21	New unit: Lance Cavalry, run over units in defending formations
Gameplay	GM22	Researches can be globally and locally applied. e.g. upgrade just units garrisoned in the barracks for less research cost; e.g. you need 3 pikemen for the battle now, but you don't want to produce them in the future in masses (see GM18)
Gameplay	GM23	Units can level up by gaining experience doing what they normally do, fighting in battle against their counter unit will give more XP against that unit style. Villagers chopping a Forest Nothing map might be a real pro at chopping trees at the end of the game e.g. one experienced villager could be as productive as three unexperienced villagers in the end of the game.
Gameplay	GM24	Queue for technology researches.
Gameplay	GM25	Farms cannot be placed on desert ground.
Gameplay	GM26	Improved water battles.
Gameplay	GM27	Percentage based armor system similar to AoEO and AoM. Will need to rebalance whole gameplay.
Gameplay	GM28	Entirely rebalance milita line. Main gold unit similar to knights/archers. Instead of a counter unit currently.
Gameplay	GM29	Nerf the range on towers early and make them scale much better into the late game.
Gameplay	GM30	Unit queuing doesn't block resources. Resources are taken in account, when the unit is actually starting to be produced.
Gameplay	GM31	Make denying upgrades more easy, like in SC2. Often players will destroy buildings to cancel an upgrade in progress and gain the upgrade advantage. Maybe in a special mod with less hp for buildings.
Gameplay	GM32	Possibility to put archers/ranged units on a wall/castle to get elevation bonus.
Gameplay	GM33	Quickwalling: first XX% (variable percentage) of a foundation is walkable, setting for e.g. tournaments
Gameplay	GM34	Mesoamerican civilizations (already the most novel civs in the game) may have a unique tech tree. Possibility for a unique tech tree in API.
Gameplay	GM35	Controlled forest fires: Allows the player (technology researched at the university in the castle age) to destroy forests to create more space; this goes much faster/efficient than chopping, but obviously at the expense of the lumber and generates regular terrain.
Gameplay	GM36	Give siege rams an upgrade that prevents unit production while it's attacking a building. (5-second debuff that refreshes each attack).
Gameplay	GM37	Bigger maps, map sizes between giant and ludicrous
Gameplay	GM38	Foundation: turns regular terrain into solid terrain, requires stone, turns irregular terrain into regular terrain.
Gameplay	GM39	Different terrain types, take a look into gameplay.md for more explanations
Gameplay	GM40	Be able to temporarily toggle the map to remove terrain and show building footprints for walling without gaps.
Gameplay	GM41	Make rams push units away
Gameplay	GM42	Raise the amount of ressources that can be sold with hotkeys at the market (forest nothing)
Gameplay	GM43	A special flag that raises on a building that is researching a technology, much like the garrison flag. (see GR10)

 

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[Lion.Kanzen]

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

Interesting path finder and formation features.

Edited July 22, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

Edge of Chaos.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Hmm, battalions. Maybe I can switch to modding that game instead. 

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

[Alexandermb]

@Sundiata 

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

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[ethanray94]

@Lion.Kanzen the game War Selection needs so much work. Attempted to play it and it lags then shuts down, game is unplayable currently. 

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

[Genava55]

In French 

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

[dmzerocold]

who is playing War selection ? 

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[asterix]

this is not rts but do not know where else to put this  

but this is old RTS  with interesting ideas

 

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[Genava55]

 

[Akira Kurosawa]

It would be nice if 0 A.D. will contain some C&C3 features such "select" animation, swimming units and ability to kill your own troops by order or with AoE frendly fire.

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Edited May 5, 2020 by Paruru Slowlegs

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