Skhorn Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Hi, My plan is to Recreate the capital or the most representative city of each faction on the game including faction mods. I will try to be the most detailed as possible inspired in what Leroy30 was doing, even adding units so it does not seems like a ghost city, which reminds me, how can i turn off the units silhouettes on Atlas? Not meant to be playable. Unless someone take it and delete 90% of the props on the map. It will have every mod possible, each one adds more props! Whenever a map is finished i will create a new topic and linking it here, guess is better than overcrowd this topic. I expect to "ship it" with some history paragraphs. It will be the most accurate as possible even if i got to create unique/exotic buildings with a mix of buildings and terrain elevations. This is the plan i have for now: AngloSaxons Spoiler So far, the documentation of the Osprey book: Fortifications in Wessex c. 800 – 1066. Athenians Spoiler The Acropolis of Athens. Britons Spoiler Chysauster, a small settlement Carolingians Spoiler Aachen Carthaginians Spoiler Carthage Chinese Spoiler Daming Palace Egyptians/Ptolemies Spoiler Alexandria Epirotes Spoiler idk Gauls Spoiler Alesia or Bibracte Iberians Spoiler Castellet de banyoles tivissa Indians/Mauryans Spoiler Pataliputra. When i was making this map never found too much about the city, so it was an imaginative work. Still i can make another if there is enough references Spoiler Macedonians Spoiler Pella Norse Spoiler idk Persians Spoiler Persepolis or Babylon Romans Spoiler Should i do one for Romans(Principates) and Romans(Republicans) or just with Rome is enough? @wowgetoffyourcellphone Seleucids Spoiler Antioch or Seleucia Spartans Spoiler Sparta Thebans Spoiler Thebes Zapotecs Spoiler idk Kushites Spoiler If the buildings comes out. Meroe or Napata If anyone can help with references or suggesting me another city, i will be eternally grateful. Edited July 7, 2017 by Skhorn 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feldfeld Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I can suggest Gergovia for the gauls, which was i think the main city of the Arverni, the tribe that could unify a good part of the gaul tribes against Rome. It was also the place of a prestigious victory of that confederation against rome (so you could maybe find more references). But since i only know a few about history, what i say is potentially false and i wait for someone to suggest a better city or correct what i said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Feldfeld Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Tiber7 said: The "capital" of the federated tribes under the command of Vercingetorix was Alesia, wasn't it? Even though historians have no clue (except in the "Commentarii de Bello Gallico") of what it looked like since they don't even know where it was. There are two hypothesises offor the place: one in Switzerland in a valley that fits precisely the measurements of G.J.Caesar. I don't remember the second. That's all I know. I remained silent using "main city" term because i don't really know if the term "capital" really has a meaning in that particular time with a confederation. About Alesia, yes it was the place of the decisive gaul defeat (my french mind may tend to remember gaul victories only after all ) but the city itself, from what i saw in quick wikipedia research ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandubiens in french) seemed to be the capital of the mandubii, which didn't seem to be part of the most important gaulish tribes. Soldiers from different tribes gathered here under the command of Vercingetorix to fight, do we know more about the city ? Didn't it end up being important only for being the place of the decisive defeat which lead the confederation to lose the war ? (But i remind i only know history very approximately) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Nice initiative! For the Kushites, it's easy, Meroe or Napata, your choice.. Napata was the old religious capital, Meroe was the new secular and economic capital. Spoiler Meroe: Napata's religious center: For the Gauls, check out Bibracte. Remember that the current building set for the Gauls doesn't represent the pinnacle of Celtic architecture, but rather countryside models. Plenty of people have already commented on this, and I might make a large visual reference post in future to illustrate this point. For now, take a look at Bibracte, the capital of the Aedui: Spoiler For the Thebans… Thebes... Spoiler Bronze age Thebes.. Wrong period, but at least you have something to go on: Edited July 5, 2017 by Sundiata 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skhorn Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Feldfeld said: I remained silent using "main city" term because i don't really know if the term "capital" really has a meaning in that particular time with a confederation. I don't have a good argument against that, but main city or the most representative should've worked for any given faction too. In some of the articles i found on wikipedia, in a few of them i saw something like: The capital of "xxxxxx" kingdom/empire was "xxxxxx" So far i will update the post: Alesia and Bibracte for Gauls, thank you @Sundiata for those nice references. Kushites, Meroe or Napata. again, thank you. Thebans, thebes. Nice picture, is it possible to get more like this from thebes? Whenever i search in google it adds the Egypt Thebes and the Greek Thebes is mostly the ruins, even if i add the keyword: Reconstruction, its more related to the egypt Thebes. Spoiler Guess i should make a poll, but i don't know if i'm allowed to do that Edited July 5, 2017 by Skhorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Can be playable as total war? Is a hope. you can capture strategy points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skhorn Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: Can be playable as total war? Is a hope. you can capture strategy points. If the required improvements are coded, why not? But for now, a totally no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Yes obviusly, the game can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feldfeld Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Skhorn said: 8 hours ago, Feldfeld said: I remained silent using "main city" term because i don't really know if the term "capital" really has a meaning in that particular time with a confederation. I don't have a good argument against that, but main city or the most representative should've worked for any given faction too. In some of the articles i found on wikipedia, in a few of them i saw something like: The capital of "xxxxxx" kingdom/empire was "xxxxxx" I was just saying that about the confederation of tribes, but a particular tribe, or a civilisation can i think have a capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shieldwolf23 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 @Skhorn - definitely a great idea! I second @Lion.Kanzen, would love to have the maps playable. Let me see them once done, and allow me to make edits, and maybe, just maybe, we can make it playable! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skhorn Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 9 hours ago, shieldwolf23 said: @Skhorn - definitely a great idea! I second @Lion.Kanzen, would love to have the maps playable. Let me see them once done, and allow me to make edits, and maybe, just maybe, we can make it playable! Got it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shieldwolf23 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Waiting, buddy, waiting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Zapotec city is Monte Alban. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) On 7/5/2017 at 4:09 PM, Sundiata said: For the Kushites, it's easy, Meroe or Napata, your choice.. Napata was the old religious capital, Meroe was the new secular and economic capital. I think Napata may look more interesting, especially because the sacred mountain Jebel Barkal could give a nice big geographical point of interest. Edited July 10, 2017 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) @Skhorn Another artists' impression of ancient Thebes: Though I'm not entirely sure about it's accuracy, with those titans (or cyclopses) and all... It's art, by jbrown67 for a computer game called Monstrous. But he seems to have gotten the layout, setting and style correct, so maybe it's useful... Edited July 18, 2017 by Sundiata 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 I remember reading that Thebes did have an old cyclopean citadel. Not literally built by cyclops, just the style of masonry popular in the bronze age consisting of those massive rough stones 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) The Theban acropolis or citadel was called the Cadmeia. It wasn't nearly as massive or tall as the Athenian Acropolis, but it definitely perched above the rest of the town. I think part of the city wall used the Cadmeia as a redoubt. Here is the shape of the city. It should help you a lot. The "palisade" can be removed, since it was erected by the defenders against the attack of Alexander after they rebelled, unlesssss, you want to make it some kind of Macedonians vs. Thebans scenario, which could be cool. Spoiler alert: Alexander won. Edited July 19, 2017 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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