===[TASK]=== Crowd Sourced - Thracians (Faction)

**wackyserious** · November 30, 2021

Also @Alexandermbs Bryastovets helmet doesn't have a crest, wondering if someone wants to make one for it, it would be great too.

**wackyserious** · February 21, 2022

Can someone help me fix the civ file and what might be causing the error, I just finished re-organizing the Thracian mod art folder to be compatible with the latest SVN updates.

Lion.Kanzen · February 21, 2022

@Yekaterina

**Freagarach** · February 21, 2022

@wackyserious have you seen https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/PortA25ToA26?

Yekaterina · February 21, 2022

8 hours ago, wackyserious said:

Can someone help me fix the civ file and what might be causing the error, I just finished re-organizing the Thracian mod art folder to be compatible with the latest SVN updates

Same git repository?

**wackyserious** · February 21, 2022

4 hours ago, Freagarach said:

@wackyserious have you seen https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/PortA25ToA26?

Thanks, I think the issues are related with r26298

2 hours ago, Yekaterina said:

Same git repository?

Yes, the main mod repo at github

**wackyserious** · February 22, 2022

I kinda fixed it now, will commit the fix later.

**wackyserious** · February 22, 2022

Committed the changes, added the following:

champion_cavalry_spearman
hero_cavalry_spearman
siege_ram
ship_bireme
ship_merchant
ship_trireme
ship_fishing

**wackyserious** · February 22, 2022

On 07/01/2014 at 8:15 AM, Cleo said:

T H R A C I A N S

Version Compatibility: SVN (Do not use with standard Alpha)

Download repository: https://github.com/0ADMods/thracians

Faction Design Document

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THRACIANS

WORK IN PROGRESS

UNIT DESCRIPTIONS

BARRACKS UNITS

Generic Name: Thracian Spearman

Specific Name: .
Class: Infantry Spearman

Hacker Armament: .

Appearance:
Basic: .

Advanced:

Elite:

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Thracian Swordsman

Specific Name: .
Class: Infantry Swordsman

Hacker Armament: .

Appearance:
Basic:

Advanced:

Elite:

History: .

Function: .

Special: -

ARCHERY RANGE UNITS

Generic Name: Thracian Javelineer

Specific Name: .
Class: Infantry Javelineer

Ranged Armament: .

Appearance: .
Basic: .

Advanced: .

Elite: .

History: .

Function: .

Special: .

Generic Name: Thracian Archer

Specific Name: .
Class: Infantry Archer

Ranged Armament: .

Appearance:
Basic: .

Advanced: .

Elite: .

History: .

Function: .

Special: .

Generic Name: Thracian Javelineer

Specific Name: .
Class: Infantry Javelineer

Ranged Armament: .

Appearance: .
Basic: .

Advanced: .

Elite: .

History: .

Function: .

Special: .

Generic Name: .

Specific Name: .
Class: .

Ranged Armament: .

Appearance:
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Advanced: .

Elite: .

History: .

Function: .

Special: .

CAVALRY STABLE UNITS

Generic Name: Thracian Cavalry Javelineer

Specific Name: .
Class: Cavalry Javelineer

Hacker Armament: .

Appearance:
Basic:

Advanced:

Elite:

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: .

Specific Name: .
Class:

Ranged Armament:

Appearance:
Basic:

Advanced:

Elite:

History:

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Special:

SUPPORT UNITS

Generic Name: Thracian Woman

Specific Name: .
Class: Female Citizen.

Appearance:

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Thracian Priest.

Specific Name: .
Class: Healer.

Appearance:
Garb:

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Thracian Merchant.

Specific Name: .
Class: Trader.

Appearance:
Garb:

Mount:

History:

Function:

Special:

NAVY

Generic Name: Fishing Boat.

Specific Name: .
Class: Fishing Ship.

Appearance:
Shell: -

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Trading Ship.

Specific Name: .
Class: Merchant Ship.

Appearance:
Shell: (Standard).

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Light Warship.

Specific Name: .
Class: Light Warship.

Appearance:
Shell: Single-tier, 25 rows.

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Medium Warship.

Specific Name: .
Class: Medium Warship.

Appearence:
Shell:

History:

Function:

Special:

SIEGE WORKSHOP UNITS

Generic Name: Stone Thrower.

Specific Name: .
Class: Catapult

Appearance:
Shell:

History:

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Bolt Shooter.

Specific Name: .
Class: Bolt Shooter

Appearance:
Shell:

History:

Function:

Special:

CHAMPION UNITS

Generic Name: Thracian Champion Spearman

Specific Name: .
Class: Champion Infantry Spearman

Armament:

Appearance:

History: .

Function:

Special:

Generic Name: Champion Cavalry Spearman

Specific Name: .
Class: Champion Cavalry Spearman

Armament:

Appearance:

History:

Function:

THRACIAN HEROES

Generic Name: .

Specific Name: .
Class: .

Hacker Armament: .

Ranged Armament: .

Appearance:
Garb:

Helmet:

Shield:

Figure(s):

History:

Function:

Special:
"Hero" Aura (details here).

Generic Name: .

Specific Name: .
Class: .

Hacker Armament: .

Ranged Armament: .

Appearance:
Garb:

Helmet:

Shield:

Figure(s):

History:

Function:

Special:
"Hero" Aura (details here).

Generic Name: .

Specific Name: .
Class: .

Hacker Armament: .

Ranged Armament: .

Appearance:
Garb:

Helmet:

Shield:

Figure(s):

History:

Function:

Special:
"Hero" Aura (details here).

NEW UNIT TRAITS

List any special new traits here, each by bullet point. If no new traits, then say "None."

CIVIC CENTER UNITS

Female Citizen

Melee Infantry: .

Ranged Infantry: .

Cavalry: .

FORBIDDEN CLASSES

The following are examples only

Swordsman.

Archer.

Cavalry Spearman.

Cavalry Archer.

Quinquereme.

Battering Ram.

STRUCTURE DESCRIPTIONS

VILLAGE

Generic Name: House.

Specific Name: .
Class: House.

History:

Generic Name: Granary.

Specific Name: .
Class: Farmstead.

History:

Generic Name: Field.

Specific Name: .
Class: Field.

History:

Generic Name: Corral.

Specific Name: .
Class: Corral.

History:

Generic Name: Storehouse.

Specific Name: .
Class: Storehouse.

History:

Generic Name: Outpost.

Specific Name: .
Class: Outpost.

History:

Generic Name: Sentry Tower.

Specific Name: .
Class: Sentry Tower.

History:

Generic Name: Palisade.

Specific Name: .
Class: Palisade.

History:

Generic Name: Barracks.

Specific Name: .
Class: Barracks.

History:

Generic Name: Archery Range.

Specific Name: .
Class: Archery Range.

History:

Generic Name: Cavalry Stable.

Specific Name: .
Class: Cavalry Stable.

History:

TOWN

Generic Name: Civic Center.

Specific Name: .
Class: Civic Center.

History:

Generic Name: Dock.

Specific Name: .
Class: Dock.

History:

Generic Name: Temple.

Specific Name: .
Class: Temple.

History:

Generic Name: Blacksmith.

Specific Name: .
Class: Blacksmith.

History:

Generic Name: Marketplace.

Specific Name: .
Class: Market.

History:

Generic Name: Defense Tower.

Specific Name: .
Class: Defense Tower.

History:

Generic Name: Stone Wall.

Specific Name: .
Class: Stone Wall.

History:

Generic Name: Wall Tower.

Specific Name: .
Class: Wall Tower.

History:

Generic Name: Gate.

Specific Name: .
Class: Gate.

History:

CITY

Generic Name: Fortress.

Specific Name: .
Class: Fortress.

History:

SPECIAL STRUCTURES

Generic Name: Special Building 2.

Specific Name: .
Class: SB1.

History:

Requirements: Any?

Phase: .

Special:

Generic Name: Special Building 1.

Specific Name: .
Class: SB2.

History:

Requirements: Any?

Phase: .

Special:

WONDER

Generic Name: .

Specific Name: .
Class: Wonder.

History: .

Any Special Requirements:

Phase: City.

Special:

NEW STRUCTURE TRAITS

List any new structure traits here.

FORBIDDEN STRUCTURES

Any?

CIV BONUSES

CB1
Name: .

History:

Effect:

CB2
Generic Name: .

Specific Name: .

History:

Effect:

TEAM BONUS

TB
Name: .

History:

Effect:

TECHNOLOGIES

Infantry: Very good. Almost all technologies. Ranged units are the exception: neither here, nor there. Ranged techs average.

Cavalry: Mediocre to poor. Nothing to match the cavalry of the Persians, for instance.

Naval: Very good. Almost all technologies.

Siege: Good. Most technologies, though low selection of siege weapons to choose from.

Economy:
Farming: Mediocre. They should get some of the technologies, but not the most advanced ones.

Mining: Very good. Almost all, if not all, technologies. Coinage was highly developed.

Lumbering: Mediocre. Same as farming.

Hunting: Very limited. It was practiced mostly as a sport by the rich.

Land Trade: Mediocre. Definitely nothing to match that of the best civs in the area.

Naval Trade: Very good, one of the best in the game. Almost all techs.

Architecture: Above average. I would say something on the order of 80% of that of the Persians.

Defenses: Very good. Almost all techs.

SPECIAL TECHNOLOGIES

ST1
Name: .

History:

Effect:

ST2
Name: .

History:

Effect:

ST3
Name: .

History:

Effect:

Updated the first post, added unit portraits and placeholder faction emblem.

**wackyserious** · February 22, 2022

Triballi tribesmen (champion_infantry_swordsman)

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**wowgetoffyourcellphone** · February 23, 2022

14 hours ago, wackyserious said:

Triballi tribesmen (champion_infantry_swordsman)

Essentially their version of the Gallic Fanatic, but sword instead of spear?

**wackyserious** · February 23, 2022

1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Essentially their version of the Gallic Fanatic, but sword instead of spear?

Kinda, I have attached a spear prop on the other hand but it is essentially a sword unit, the other champion unit is a Thracian heavy hoplite.

Yekaterina · February 23, 2022

@wackyserious I have fixed your template problems. It seems like you added auras without defining them, so it threw errors. Please give me commit rights on github so I can apply the fix.

I spotted 2 additional logical errors:

1. Civ hero has no building to train them, so they remain theoretical beings

2. The heroes have no names!

**wackyserious** · February 24, 2022

11 hours ago, Yekaterina said:

@wackyserious I have fixed your template problems. It seems like you added auras without defining them, so it threw errors. Please give me commit rights on github so I can apply the fix.

I spotted 2 additional logical errors:

1. Civ hero has no building to train them, so they remain theoretical beings

2. The heroes have no names!

@Stan` I can grant access to @Yekaterina right?

I believe I assigned a builder tag to the civ center at the moment, as for the names we are still conceptualizing on who to include Thanks!

**wackyserious** · February 24, 2022

Also does anyone still have license compatible cow hide textures in their files? I kinda lost my copies which we previously used in other art assets

@Lion.Kanzen @Sundiata

**wowgetoffyourcellphone** · February 24, 2022

2 hours ago, wackyserious said:

Also does anyone still have license compatible cow hide textures in their files? I kinda lost my copies which we previously used in other art assets

@Lion.Kanzen @Sundiata

Try searching "cow hide cc0" and see what pops up.

Genava55 · February 26, 2023

Genava55 · February 26, 2023

A few interesting references:

The Valley of the Kings? Social Complexity of Inland Thrace during the First Millennium BC. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/295262199_The_Valley_of_the_Kings_Social_Complexity_of_Inland_Thrace_during_the_First_Millennium_BC
Urbanization - In: Julia Valeva, Denver Graninger, and Emil Nankov (eds.) A Companion to Ancient Thrace. https://www.academia.edu/6793751/Urbanization_in_J_Valeva_E_Nankov_and_D_Graninger_eds_A_Companion_to_Ancient_Thrace_Wiley_Blackwell_2015_399_411
The first Thracian urban and rural dwellings, and stonecutting techniques. https://www.talanta.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/TAL-32-33-2000-2001-022-artikel-tot-pg-253.pdf
Kozi Gramadi. Studies of an Odrysian ruler's residence and sanctuaries in Sredna Gora Mt. (8th—1st centuries BC). https://www.academia.edu/4935133/KOZI_GRAMADI_STUDIES_OF_AN_ODRYSIAN_RULER_S_RESIDENCE_AND_SANCTUARIES_IN_SREDNA_GORA_MT_8TH_1ST_CENTURIES_BC
The Fortifications of The Early Hellenistic Thracian City of Seuthopolis. https://www.academia.edu/424819/THE_FORTIFICATIONS_OF_THE_EARLY_HELLENISTIC_THRACIAN_CITY_OF_SEUTHOPOLIS_BREAKING_THE_MOLD
Sboryanovo. Volume III: The Thracian City - City planning. Fortification system. Architecture. https://www.academia.edu/43425810/THE_THRACIAN_CITY_CITY_PLANNING_FORTIFICATION_SYSTEM_ARCHITECTURE_Sboryanovo_VOLUME_III_2015_
The Tumulus of Golyamata Mogila near the villages of Malomirovo and Zlatinitsa. https://www.academia.edu/12392747/The_Tumulus_of_Golyamata_Mogila_near_the_villages_of_Malomirovo_and_Zlatinitsa_Chapter_I + https://www.academia.edu/12392810/The_Tumulus_of_Golyamata_Mogila_near_the_villages_of_Malomirovo_and_Zlatinitsa_Chapter_II_III + https://www.academia.edu/12392889/The_Tumulus_of_Golyamata_Mogila_near_the_villages_of_Malomirovo_and_Zlatinitsa_Chapter_III_IV
Lysimachus, the Getae, and archaeology. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1558897
L’épopée des rois thraces, des guerres médiques aux invasions celtes (479-278 av. J.-C.). Découvertes archéologiques en Bulgarie. [a lot of pictures!] https://www.academia.edu/11989784/L_épopée_des_rois_thraces_des_guerres_médiques_aux_invasions_celtes_479_278_av_J_C_Découvertes_archéologiques_en_Bulgarie
Odrysian arms, equipment, and tactics. https://www.academia.edu/738235/Odyrsian_arms_equipment_and_tactics
Warfare. - In: Julia Valeva, Denver Graninger, and Emil Nankov (eds.) A Companion to Ancient Thrace. https://www.academia.edu/21657079/Stoyanov_Totko_Warfare_In_Julia_Valeva_Denver_Graninger_and_Emil_Nankov_eds_A_Companion_to_Ancient_Thrace_Wiley_Blackwell_2015_426_442
The Chalkidian helmets and the origin of the North Thracian ceremonial armour. https://www.academia.edu/21902640/L_Ognenova_T_Stoyanov_The_Chalkidian_helmets_and_the_origin_of_the_North_Thracian_ceremonial_armour_SAUS_Suppl_4_Stephanos_Arcaeologicos_in_honorem_Professoris_Ludmili_Getov_Sofia_2005_р_519_539
Thracian Warriors in Transylvania at the Beginning of the Late Iron Age. The Grave with Chalcidian helmet from Ocna Sibiului. https://www.academia.edu/2026130/A_Rustoiu_S_Berecki_Thracian_Warriors_in_Transylvania_at_the_Beginning_of_the_Late_Iron_Age_The_Grave_with_Chalcidian_helmet_from_Ocna_Sibiului
Archaeological textiles in pre-Roman Thrace: state of the evidence. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348976061_Archaeological_textiles_in_pre-Roman_Thrace_state_of_the_evidence
The greaves from Agighiol (Romania) and Vratsa (Bulgaria) Reconsidered. https://www.academia.edu/39838055/The_greaves_from_Agighiol_Romania_and_Vratsa_Bulgaria_Reconsidered
A Bell Cuirass from the Tumulus № II Near the Village of Gorski Izvor. https://www.academia.edu/83166683/Ya_Ivanov_A_Bell_Cuirass_from_the_Tumulus_II_Near_the_Village_of_Gorski_Izvor_Brief_Analysis_of_the_Cuirasses_from_Thrace_Sofia_2022_pdf

Edited February 26, 2023 by Genava55

Genava55 · February 26, 2023

It would be nice to have a Thracian tumulus tomb as a special building.

It wouldn't be difficult to make. This is basically an earth tumulus with a few structures around. The easiest is to do a monumental gate with a greek column at the entrance and an outer wall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracian_tomb_Shushmanets#/media/File:Shushmanets3.jpg

https://360image.net/product/thracian-tomb-shushmanets-bulgaria-3-5/

Thracian-royal-tombs-in-the-Rose-valley-

(Thracian tomb from Starosel)

The conception of a Thracian tomb is very similar to Macedonian ones. Therefore, if it is too difficult to understand how a Thracian tomb works without an illustration, I suggest to check how the Macedonian ones were since they are more popular and more covered by the medias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina#/media/File:Makieta_grobowca_Filipa.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina#/media/File:Facade_of_Philip_II_tomb_Vergina_Greece.jpg

http://www.amfipolis.com/amphipolis-tomb/

http://www.amfipolis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/amphipolis-tomb1.jpg

Edited February 26, 2023 by Genava55

Duileoga · February 27, 2023

6 hours ago, Genava55 said:

A few interesting references:

The Valley of the Kings? Social Complexity of Inland Thrace during the First Millennium BC. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/295262199_The_Valley_of_the_Kings_Social_Complexity_of_Inland_Thrace_during_the_First_Millennium_BC

Urbanization - In: Julia Valeva, Denver Graninger, and Emil Nankov (eds.) A Companion to Ancient Thrace. https://www.academia.edu/6793751/Urbanization_in_J_Valeva_E_Nankov_and_D_Graninger_eds_A_Companion_to_Ancient_Thrace_Wiley_Blackwell_2015_399_411

The first Thracian urban and rural dwellings, and stonecutting techniques. https://www.talanta.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/TAL-32-33-2000-2001-022-artikel-tot-pg-253.pdf

Kozi Gramadi. Studies of an Odrysian ruler's residence and sanctuaries in Sredna Gora Mt. (8th—1st centuries BC). https://www.academia.edu/4935133/KOZI_GRAMADI_STUDIES_OF_AN_ODRYSIAN_RULER_S_RESIDENCE_AND_SANCTUARIES_IN_SREDNA_GORA_MT_8TH_1ST_CENTURIES_BC

The Fortifications of The Early Hellenistic Thracian City of Seuthopolis. https://www.academia.edu/424819/THE_FORTIFICATIONS_OF_THE_EARLY_HELLENISTIC_THRACIAN_CITY_OF_SEUTHOPOLIS_BREAKING_THE_MOLD

Sboryanovo. Volume III: The Thracian City - City planning. Fortification system. Architecture. https://www.academia.edu/43425810/THE_THRACIAN_CITY_CITY_PLANNING_FORTIFICATION_SYSTEM_ARCHITECTURE_Sboryanovo_VOLUME_III_2015_

The Tumulus of Golyamata Mogila near the villages of Malomirovo and Zlatinitsa. https://www.academia.edu/12392747/The_Tumulus_of_Golyamata_Mogila_near_the_villages_of_Malomirovo_and_Zlatinitsa_Chapter_I + https://www.academia.edu/12392810/The_Tumulus_of_Golyamata_Mogila_near_the_villages_of_Malomirovo_and_Zlatinitsa_Chapter_II_III + https://www.academia.edu/12392889/The_Tumulus_of_Golyamata_Mogila_near_the_villages_of_Malomirovo_and_Zlatinitsa_Chapter_III_IV

Lysimachus, the Getae, and archaeology. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1558897

L’épopée des rois thraces, des guerres médiques aux invasions celtes (479-278 av. J.-C.). Découvertes archéologiques en Bulgarie. [a lot of pictures!] https://www.academia.edu/11989784/L_épopée_des_rois_thraces_des_guerres_médiques_aux_invasions_celtes_479_278_av_J_C_Découvertes_archéologiques_en_Bulgarie

Odrysian arms, equipment, and tactics. https://www.academia.edu/738235/Odyrsian_arms_equipment_and_tactics

Warfare. - In: Julia Valeva, Denver Graninger, and Emil Nankov (eds.) A Companion to Ancient Thrace. https://www.academia.edu/21657079/Stoyanov_Totko_Warfare_In_Julia_Valeva_Denver_Graninger_and_Emil_Nankov_eds_A_Companion_to_Ancient_Thrace_Wiley_Blackwell_2015_426_442

The Chalkidian helmets and the origin of the North Thracian ceremonial armour. https://www.academia.edu/21902640/L_Ognenova_T_Stoyanov_The_Chalkidian_helmets_and_the_origin_of_the_North_Thracian_ceremonial_armour_SAUS_Suppl_4_Stephanos_Arcaeologicos_in_honorem_Professoris_Ludmili_Getov_Sofia_2005_р_519_539

Thracian Warriors in Transylvania at the Beginning of the Late Iron Age. The Grave with Chalcidian helmet from Ocna Sibiului. https://www.academia.edu/2026130/A_Rustoiu_S_Berecki_Thracian_Warriors_in_Transylvania_at_the_Beginning_of_the_Late_Iron_Age_The_Grave_with_Chalcidian_helmet_from_Ocna_Sibiului

Archaeological textiles in pre-Roman Thrace: state of the evidence. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348976061_Archaeological_textiles_in_pre-Roman_Thrace_state_of_the_evidence

The greaves from Agighiol (Romania) and Vratsa (Bulgaria) Reconsidered. https://www.academia.edu/39838055/The_greaves_from_Agighiol_Romania_and_Vratsa_Bulgaria_Reconsidered

A Bell Cuirass from the Tumulus № II Near the Village of Gorski Izvor. https://www.academia.edu/83166683/Ya_Ivanov_A_Bell_Cuirass_from_the_Tumulus_II_Near_the_Village_of_Gorski_Izvor_Brief_Analysis_of_the_Cuirasses_from_Thrace_Sofia_2022_pdf

3 hours ago, Genava55 said:

Thracian tomb of Aleksandrovo

Thracian tomb of Cotys I

Thracian tomb Golyama Arsenalka

Thracian tomb Griffins

Thracian tomb Helvetia

Thracian Tomb of Kazanlak

Thracian tomb Ostrusha

Thracian tomb of Seuthes III

Thracian tomb Shushmanets

Thracian Tomb of Sveshtari

It would be nice to have a Thracian tumulus tomb as a special building.

It wouldn't be difficult to make. This is basically an earth tumulus with a few structures around. The easiest is to do a monumental gate with a greek column at the entrance and an outer wall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracian_tomb_Shushmanets#/media/File:Shushmanets3.jpg

https://360image.net/product/thracian-tomb-shushmanets-bulgaria-3-5/

(Thracian tomb from Starosel)

The conception of a Thracian tomb is very similar to Macedonian ones. Therefore, if it is too difficult to understand how a Thracian tomb works without an illustration, I suggest to check how the Macedonian ones were since they are more popular and more covered by the medias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina#/media/File:Makieta_grobowca_Filipa.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina#/media/File:Facade_of_Philip_II_tomb_Vergina_Greece.jpg

http://www.amfipolis.com/amphipolis-tomb/

http://www.amfipolis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/amphipolis-tomb1.jpg

Buenos días o tardes;

-Esto es muy interesante , en cuanto tenga tiempo me pongo con los edificios tracios ¿Me pueden pasar las actuales texturas de edificios tracios y griegos?

On 07/08/2019 at 7:48 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

This is the "Thracian" structure texture I made some time ago. Looks like the artists hated it for some reason and made their own. Perhaps for Dacians or Illyrians instead? (with some tweaks; different shields of course, or just use prop points and shield props instead)

-En esta textura faltan la de los muros y columnas de los edificios tracios.

Disculpen las molestias*

**wowgetoffyourcellphone** · February 27, 2023

18 hours ago, Duileoga said:

En esta textura faltan la de los muros y columnas de los edificios tracios.

It was just a start. The section in the bottom right has room for new textures such as you requested.

Genava55 · February 28, 2023

On 15/09/2019 at 4:59 PM, Genava55 said:

Sboryanovo:

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On 05/08/2019 at 2:38 PM, Genava55 said:

Sinemorets

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Pistiros - Adjiyska Vodenitsa

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On 05/08/2019 at 2:38 PM, Genava55 said:

Seuthopolis

"Seuthopolis provides a good example of a manifest regularity, repeated in many settlements that become prominent political centers and seats of members of the high aristocracy; developed quickly, often without continuity with earlier settlements in the same locality, within a short time they become central in the settlement hierarchy. Many such sites, however, lose their importance equally quickly or come to an end, as their livelihood was evidently closely bound to that of their founders and the political structures created by them. The duration of settlement occupation at Vasil Levski, Krastevich, Seuthopolis, and Sboryanovo was brief, ranging from a few decades to slightly more than a century. In the last decade, in fact, the issue of whether or not some of the settlement forms widely distributed throughout Thrace ca. second half of the 1st millennium bce were in fact royal residences has undergone an important development. Various ancient authors mention fortified small places, “thyrseis,” that have been interpreted by modern scholars as towers or residences which served as “permanent homes of the Thracian aristocracy” or a “typical kernel of urbanization in Thracian settlement life” (Fol 1970, 166–168, with summary of the ancient sources). For a long time, this specific element of the Thracian settlement structure has had no convincing archaeological counterpart or, alternatively, the architectural complex excavated on the shores of Mandrensko Lake near Burgas was cited as a unique example (Dimitrov 1958; Balabanov 1984). The recent discovery of the residences near Kozi Gramadi (Khristov 2011, and earlier publications cited), Smilovene (Agre and Dichev 2010а, 214–217), Sinemorets (Agre and Dichev 2010b, 217–219), and Knyazhevo (Agre and Dichev 2013, 143–145) have revised this picture and confirmed the ancient sources. These compact architectural complexes are characterized by monumental architecture and often fortification; Knyazhevo is at present the only exception. On the other hand, the investigations at Sinemorets demonstrate that this settlement form, specific to Thrace, was in use not only in the heyday of early Thracian states, between the fifth and the first half of the third century bce, but also during the later stages of the Hellenistic period. [...]

Undoubtedly the most prominent manifestation of centralization processes and stratification in the settlement system of Thrace arrives with the emergence of political capitals – the leading urban centers of various Thracian political formations. If southern Thrace has yielded the example of Seuthopolis, for northeastern Thrace such a role is played by the Getic city research has enabled some investigators to identify the Thracian settlement in Sboryanovo with Helis, the capital of the Getic ruler Dromichaetes – a political opponent of Lysimachus (Delev 1990; Stoyanov 2000b; Stoyanov in press, cf. Chapter 5). The image that the city boasted during the end of the fourth and the beginning of the third century bce corresponds to its leading position within the strong Getic state developed on both sides of Danube. In the fortified area of the settlement both residential and artisanal neighborhoods existed. Recent archaeological data show that, in the southwestern part of the fortified section of the city, the remains of a basileia – an internal quarter in which the ruling aristocratic elite resided (Stoyanov in press) – can be identified. Numerous residential neighborhoods and other urban areas of commercial and manufacturing character were located outside the city walls, with the total area of the city exceeding 30 ha. Archaeology shows that the city was destroyed by an earthquake in the middle of the third century bce. Attempts to resurrect it failed to restore its previous role. The site at Sboryanovo does not seem to have followed in its development the main trends outlined on the basis of the settlements of higher rank located in southern Thrace. The site’s excavator rightly notes that, in its development of the individual elements of its urban character, architectural forms, and construction techniques, the settlement diverges from the rules of Greek and Hellenistic architectural features, which had been directly imported in some centers south of Stara Planina, but rather shows a regional variation of local development (Stoyanov 2006; Stoyanov in press)."

On 07/08/2019 at 3:05 PM, Genava55 said:

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On 04/07/2017 at 4:06 PM, Sundiata said:

Some quick image references for Seuthopolis, the Thracian capital under the Odrysian Kingdom. Although heavily influenced by Greece, it still had a recognizably Thracian culture and heritage. The ordinary people lived outside of the walls of this administrative center, full of official buildings.

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http://payamarchi.blogspot.be/2008/10/seuthopolis-amazing-ancient-city-will.html

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Definitely, there was a lot of Hellenization in Thrace, especially the Odryssian Kingdom, but I don't feel like going full Hellenistic is the right choice. It's my impression that outside of a few royal centres, Hellenistic modes of living weren't as pervasive as you'd expect from truly Hellenistic states. Hellenistic influence seems to be much more of an elite thing, hence it's relevance for elite structures, but Thracians weren't highly urbanized and these Hellenistic style displays of wealth and power probably aren't representative for all of Thrace. So I'd propose of mix of rural Thracian style (lots of wood) for non-elite structures, and Hellenistic influence in elite structures.

=> all civilizations in 0 A.D. are designed according to their best and most magnificent settlements. Not the regular and average ones. For example, the Persians are designing according to the buildings of their most important cities, which does not represent the majority of the settlement the population of their empire lived in.

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Genava55 · February 28, 2023

Again, some pictures I already posted in the past:

On 08/06/2021 at 6:39 AM, Genava55 said:

Royal tombs (possible civic center or temple):

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Tumulus and Telos like tombs:

Tumulus with a Temenos (rectangular area):

Getae Tumulus Tomb:

General scheme of Greek tholos tomb:

Edit: pictures I just posted in the AC Odyssey thread

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1 hour ago, Genava55 said:

Helvetia tomb, near Shipka in Bulgaria and Maglizh tomb in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria

Thracian tomb of Kazanlak

Thracian tomb of Aleksandrovo

Svesthari tomb

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