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The Terra Magna error is fixed

Someone else also reported this error but I haven't found the time to look into it hopefully tomorrow...

Lol, I need to read better

@wowgetoffyourcellphone: you can't just set the initial field limit at 0 and increasing with every farmstead built?

Oh, has been a while since I found the motivation to play it

Also read the first post in this topic to read more info on the why:

@Imarok: no, because you need to be in Phase III before you can build a second one (and it's expensive too)

@Imarok: it makes the early stages of the game more interesting and less about creating champions asap. Combined with the reduced amount of gatherers per resource entity it highly encourages the players to expand early. This in turn encourages scouting, raiding, positioning your defensive armies (since with the reduced LOS and speed your army requires some time to move around) and whatnot... @wraitii: yes, but as said I think you can't limit your scope on this particular topic. It requires an agreement on the bigger countryside concept first before you can step into implementation details

Or while we're at it, maybe we should discuss countryside implementations as a whole? I don't think you can disconnect just the storehouses from it. Take for example Sibyllae Vox: in that mod storehouses (and farmsteads) cast a small territory which allows the player to build simple fortifications (like wooden towers and pallisades, stone defences are required to be built nearby a CC). Also disallowing farming nearby a CC has a huge impact on how the countryside implementation would take shape

Are farmsteads also affected by your proposal? (Hunting or gathering bushes outside your territory)

Delenda Eat places trees in groups (called tree grove or something) that could help too

You say it's not complex but your explanation tells different. It adds to the complexity of the farming concept without improving it (except for 'looking more natural') And of course people care about those two minutes that they need to invest before they get their nominal rate (these citizens can't gather anything else during that period). Wriatti mentioned that the patch is a go, hence my post that questioned wether it is a wanted feature...

Oh sure! I think the proposed mechanisms add too much complexity (and unnecessary too) for a game like 0 A.D. It might be funny for a realism / city building mod

@wraitii: not sure whether D227 it's a go, I have seen several 'no' posts in the other topic (and I'm adding a 'no' here too)

With the ultimate endpoint being a gather rate of zero

I'm willing to try it out too (Dutch)

As a recap: giving the the soldiers the ability to gather is not something that makes 0 A.D. special to play. Instead, the current implementation is broken and probably the concept too. So either the concept should be improved or completely removed (to lazy to look up Darc's detailed explanation post with some suggestions to fix it)

Gee, guys... No need to heat up@DarcReaver @drsingh

@Hannibal_Barca: Are they really planned for Alpha 23 or is it just some ancient ticket that happens to have it's milestone to Alpha 23?

@Wesley: regeneration would be strange for metal and stone (unnatural) but for food / wood is see possibilities

How about regenerative resources?

The gameplay code is written in JavaScript and can be found data/mods/public/simulation/components/. It's explained here too: http://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/Finding_Your_Way_Around

Did you download the latest source? Does it throw any kind of error?

+ there are many ways to implement trading, it doesn't have to be the AOE way. Asking what trade should accomplish in this particular game (what role does it have) helps deciding on which mechanism could fit

@Tiber7: I would rather go for a complete redesign, not a punishment for using the existing system