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Reconstructions Drawing of similar horns from Runnabehy (ignore the helmet in the middle, it is Gaulish or Gallo-Roman)

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I am aware that these are mutually exclusive to a degree. I am just saying elephants and ships are already very clumsy as is. On the ship side, there have been discussions to scale down ships for a while which would help. For elephants, we have the upside of improved pathing through own and enemy units, which is sick, but problems are clear when handling forests and buildings. Unless I am mistaken, it seems like these 3 points are less "mission critical" to the elephant attack and charge effects.

In case of the Irish, archeology is perhaps the main source (due do the lack of Roman accounts and medieval epics not being very reliable). Perhaps champion units could be distinguished from clothing, scabbards and jewelry. Maybe a chance of having a horned headdress, but those might be better suited for heroes. EB2 gave some of the Irish cavalry leather armor: It's not entirely impossible they had leather/cloth armor that did not survive, although i'm not sure they would follow the same Gaulish style with shoulderpads (the leather armor of the Gauls seem to have been inspired by Greek examples).

That’s why it’s good to have more people doing the testing. There are a thousand ways to break your work haha. Just kidding, it’s great that @Thalatta managed to compile it and test it. Alright, I’ll do some testing of my own tonight with this. Great work!

They do! @Thalatta is just master trickster here! Joking, but maybe we can increase the SolidPushSpin as explained above. I had this parameter added before doing the "push only if we have room to push", so maybe a higher value now will still results in still acceptable level of wiggles.

I like this behavior much more than what could be seen in my videos from the previous commit. I'm not sure to what extent it will be possible (or desirable) to make the behavior more realistic, but getting them to rotate a little when they are pushed would be really good, as it would make the behavior more realistic and, in many cases, could help open up paths for them to move through more quickly. But, in fact, I think this result is quite acceptable. And what I like most about this new patch is that the elephants entering the narrow path looks much smoother and more natural. They’re still clumsy and slow, which is fitting for something so large and heavy. But the movement flows much better than in the previous version, which felt stiff and a bit “dumb”

Well here you are trying hard to make the geometry show it's limits In the first example, a rectangle pushing another one against the wall is kinda expected to do this slide. In the second example on open terrain, I see you manually try to aim for the elephant's center, despite it trying to rotate!! But you can actually try to tweak values even without recompiling : in `pathfinder.xml` you have the parameter `SolidPushSpin`, which makes the circle pushing/soft pushing impact more or less units spins. Currently it's low (0.25), if you increase it, your elephants will spin faster in that case, but this also means elephants moving shoulder to shoulder might also wiggle a bit more.

Even though I love archaeology, we shouldn't treat it as the ultimate source of truth. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. For one thing, very few Iron Age graves have been discovered in Ireland, and what we do find inside is always subject to bias. We find bows and arrows in Celtic princely graves in Central Europe, but these are hunting weapons; objectively, we shouldn't interpret them as weapons of war. The reason I support the Gauls having archers and not the Britons is simply because we have historical accounts of archers deployed in the battlefield for the Gauls. There is no such account for the Britons for our time period.

Though history is of course full of such violence (I don't insist on that "pregnant" feature, but raiding civilians/women is harsh enough), maybe another interesting feature (both from gameplay and historical accuracy perspective) could be the option to capture/enslave civilians (less "harsh" maybe, but only slightly) (and nvm you usually already have enough civilians mid-game).

I'm using the latest b53b24adc2 now. I think an issue now is that they are really stubborn to turn , and that can block paths or cause them to be dragged sideways somewhat easily (see the 1v1 after 0:15): video.mp4 I guess some turning would be more realistic than being pushed sideways like that, imagining it's on their own accord, which makes me think if there shouldn't be a difference between how enemy and own units react.

Maybe an explicit IRC-channel then? Like #0ad-bridged - so the devs who want can opt in. That's true, I guess almost everyone who uses Linux has seen that 0 A.D. thing at the top of package lists. But can't be good just because of that, can it? Still it took me years to actually try it.

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Yes they are. Well for the most part. There is also soft push gradient (not really the hitbox, but like a softer wider hitbox) and also some logic that tries to push if two bodies already overlap.

Haha! Will check this tonight

Can't tell in from the picture, but it's also very possible that the elephant here was stuck at this angle due to the ones pushing on it's butt... But this should happen less often, and elephants should be able to unstuck themselves sooner now. You can also enable "UnitMotion" in dev overlay to display the path, this can help figuring if it's actually a pathfinder weirdness or a bug.

@guerringuerrin I was about to post when I realized you posted . Nevermind I'll keep mine as I wrote it initially. And make some reply to yours after. ------------------------ Unless... Screencast from 2026-10-01 13-50-02(2).webm x20 speed, no orders but 2 step rally point. For nerds, what changed (main changes) : Contact slides, solids slide along each other in the direction they want to go. This fix solids getting stuck on chock-point. Solid are only sensible to soft push if they actually have room to be pushed to. This makes groups of solid expand outward and prevent wiggles because now they only push in one direction. Minimal cost, just coarse grid check. Note : Also this idea is a bit of the same than pressure for non-solids. Excepted pressure wouldn't work for solids because their shape is different, and the pushing is different too, so its barely more costly, but works very well for solids. Improved contact logic so also actually even less overlapping on choke-points. Ok but now, the question is... Will @guerringuerrin manage to get some elephants stuck this time?

Yes, it could be what you say, and it might be related to a (bad) pathfinding issue. In this latest video of the stationary elephant, I think you can see a clear path that the elephant could take (orange arrow) instead of trying to join the path line that all the others are using. And since it never manages to get into position, it looks like it just stays still. I understand what you mean and, to some extent, I agree. So far, my intention with these testruns has been to force situations that may not be common in everyday gameplay but are still possible (such as a group of 24 elephants). I'll now start testing more "expected" situations, mixing elephants with infantry. We could also test MP in the next few days. I haven't tried to coordinate because I've been short on time, but we'll find an opportunity. Regarding the forces exerted by the elephant's hitbox, are they the same from the front and the sides, and while turning versus moving straight? For example, in this screenshot from the fourth video (at around 0:30), one elephant fails to reach its waypoint and ends up blocking a huge group behind it. You'd expect the combined force of all those elephants to overcome the resistance of one or two elephants blocking the way. I imagine accumulating forces is complex and could lead to less predictable results. That's why I was wondering whether the side edges of the hitbox could have lower force/resistance, allowing an elephant crossing the path of one coming from the front to be pushed aside. Maybe this is very complex to implement; I'm just throwing the idea out there. Maybe it's simply a matter of improving the pathfinding. Overall, my opinion of this PR is very positive, especially the new infantry and cavalry behavior. I think elephants (or units with the "solid" property) still need some tuning. Since these properties are optional, the PR can be merged as is, but I think fine-tuning them would be valuable to provide good baseline conditions, as we've already seen with infantry/cavalry.

There are also mentions of bows and armor which IIRC are not really found in iron age Ireland. I suppose chariots without scythes could still be included since there seems to be some evidence (even without finds of a whole chariot) .

"Primitive man" is not a nice name (these pejorative terms when referring to peoples and cultures are quite outdated in academia). Is this a Yayoi? That term is also used for the people and culture, not just the period. It would also be more indicative of who that person is supposed to be. One comment on Reddit summarises the situation quite well: "Besides the issue of racism and colonialism, it is a term that is so vague as to be useless".

The lack of culture and religion, a loyalty or morale systems, and separating priests from healers are things that have been floated around, and I agree with those, in fact I thought I already posted it in my suggestions, but just checked and it's coming in the next batch, along with a rethinking of how Markets work, which right now it's just a copy of AoE and I think it's a pretty uninteresting system.

will the release be planned for Halloween or just somewhere in october?

It would be interesting if the unique units could form "cohorts". Each cohort has its own number and generic name. Mostly to distinguish them. And that they can do the merge effect that in Total War (also in Europa Universalis: Rome). The merge effect involves combining cohorts with few soldiers and filling them to the maximum. In Total War, the best mods prioritized slow-paced combat. This allowed for realistic combat and better movement on the map. Mods like Europa Barbarorum, Or also Extended Cultures V. Rise of Fall CAW. "A formation can reach up to 64 soldiers". Here it would be 24. " The formation provides attack and defense bonuses."This should go not only in delenda est "The size of the formation also affects characteristics such as speed, attack, defense, and range".This combines 2 games 1 festure. Rise and Fall CAW and Europe Universalis Rome the Army movement. This proposal is very interesting.

As Thalatta explained, Irish epic tales were significantly altered by external influences, in this case Christianization and the medieval historical tradition. For one thing, oral tradition is inherently timeless, oral narratives are constantly adapted to the changing realities of society. Consequently, these stories had almost certainly undergone changes before being fixed in writing. Furthermore, when monks committed the tales to writing, they adapted them even further, drawing inspiration from the Bible, the writings of Jordanes and Gregory of Tours, and other sources from their medieval context. Irish tales contain a great many anachronisms and stories that are implausible for a pre-Christian society. It is essential to analyze them with a critical eye and sound methodology in order to extract useful information. In this case, scythed chariots are voluntarily added to further enhance a supposed link between Ireland and the Near East. The Serians represent a conflation of the Syrians and the Seres (of Central Asia).