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By BreakfastBurrito_007 · Posted
I use alt+left click sniping with 100+ units. Can you see if I have an apm spike like this? You may have to look for an older game from base a26; since the comm mod came out sniping with skirmishers is not nearly as good as it was. I’ve definitely lost fights because of trying to snipe after the comm mod came out. The extra pathing and exposure for skirmishers is now more prohibitively expensive. -
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But I found one player (sanafur) that is currently active and has this unusual active sniping: Maybe he can provide some insight how this is done. commands.zip Sniping with alt+leftclick gives the command to one unit. Or more precisely to the unit with the lowest entity ID / oldest. In a game one can't know realistically which would be that in a group. So if one would alt-leftclick one couldn't give the command to the nearest unit. This would only make sense with a target in range of everyone in a group. Archers and slingers might use this in bigger groups (30+). Skirmishers might try to reach a target on the other side of the group and would need to run between their own army. Halt command (H-key) makes more sense then to attack the next target near each unit without sniping.
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I analyzed a game of Stockfish and stumbled up on some weird behavior regarding unusual high sniping activity. Now I analyzed a few more game of him and others. The unusual sniping acts in that way, that one players sends individual attack commands to individual units. In the commands.txt it looks like this in one turn: cmd 2 {"type":"attack","entities":[2472],"target":2963,"queued":false,"pushFront":false,"allowCapture":false,"formation":"special/formations/null"} cmd 2 {"type":"attack","entities":[2483],"target":2963,"queued":false,"pushFront":false,"allowCapture":false,"formation":"special/formations/null"} cmd 2 {"type":"attack","entities":[2533],"target":2963,"queued":false,"pushFront":false,"allowCapture":false,"formation":"special/formations/null"} ... In the following graphs I count only these individual attack commands for each player. Here are 4 games of Stockfish which all show this behavior and I did not find a game which didn't have this that were longer than 10 min: Here are some games of other high ranked players that don't have this unusual sniping activity:
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It Is being added to Ubuntu 24.10/oracular and hopefully also to 24.04/noble, you can follow updates here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2071550 -
By Lion.Kanzen · Posted
Yes, but it should be less effective against its counter. If not, the strategy to win will be to use champion melee cavalry. -
I also think that champ cav shouldn't be nerfed too much, just having more viable counters is needed.
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