real_tabasco_sauce Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) To properly test for balance we will need many players (at least enough for a 4v4 or two). some things to think about while playing: thoughts on acceleration values. Han crossbows OP? Han swordcav rush OP? persia rush persia immortals OP? merc cav nerfed OK? catapults OP? A separate group can play on the latest version (SVN): try a fanatic rush, is it OP? try all in spartan rush are neodamodes spearmen OP? Edited August 10, 2022 by real_tabasco_sauce 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player of 0AD Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 6 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: persia rush whats that? 6 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: persia immortals OP? Why? I see: -60 health, -3 armor, -1 speed. Looks super UP. Whats going on here? 6 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: try all in spartan rush Wahts new about that? 6 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: are neodamodes spearmen OP? Which civ does have them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrstgtr Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Player of 0AD said: whats that? They have 2 cav units in p1. 20 minutes ago, Player of 0AD said: Why? I see: -60 health, -3 armor, -1 speed. Looks super UP. Whats going on here? They can weapon switch between spear and arrow. 20 minutes ago, Player of 0AD said: Wahts new about that? Champs in p1 22 minutes ago, Player of 0AD said: Which civ does have them? Sparta ------ With that said, I am not sure if any of these changes are currently in the latest SVN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player of 0AD Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 3 hours ago, chrstgtr said: They have 2 cav units in p1. They can weapon switch between spear and arrow. Champs in p1 Sparta ------ With that said, I am not sure if any of these changes are currently in the latest SVN In latest SVN: Only the immortals. So they are slow but tanky infantry archers with the possibility to use spears if necessary. Dont seem OP to me but testing is helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted August 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Player of 0AD said: Dont seem OP to me but testing is helpful. i have tested them a bit, and tbh they seem balanced, but gameplay is how we will find OP stuff. we failed to test mercs adequately. I don't know if we will get a third RC, so thats why I listed extra stuff there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetswaveaBook Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 16 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: To properly test for balance we will need many players (at least enough for a 4v4 or two). I hold the opinion that to properly test for balance it is better to play a 1v1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted August 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, LetswaveaBook said: I hold the opinion that to properly test for balance it is better to play a 1v1 1v1s are needed too, particularly for things like fanatic rushes. I said we need 4v4s just because many people can use new features all at once, and testing is faster with more "hands on deck" so to speak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkcity Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 For checking out game features that are totally new, invite newbies who liked the game and would like to get involve in trying out new release. They can play games with AIs, and will play for longer duration, so you will get fresh perspective. Pro players can help more gameplays; features wise you will get more comparisons from them than fresh views. Just a suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrstgtr Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Darkcity said: For checking out game features that are totally new, invite newbies who liked the game and would like to get involve in trying out new release. They can play games with AIs, and will play for longer duration, so you will get fresh perspective. Pro players can help more gameplays; features wise you will get more comparisons from them than fresh views. Just a suggestion. They can do that now just by downloading SVN. This is separate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrstgtr Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Player of 0AD said: In latest SVN: Only the immortals. So they are slow but tanky infantry archers with the possibility to use spears if necessary. Dont seem OP to me but testing is helpful. The fear is that giving immortals spears takes away cav as the natural archer counter. I suspect they will be fine, but we adjusted a bit in the patch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, LetswaveaBook said: I hold the opinion that to properly test for balance it is better to play a 1v1 Team bonuses bring more diversity into the game and so you can test more combinations of units/bonuses/heroes than you can in a 1v1 (think skirm cav mercs with iber team bonus). I would say that 1v1s are necessary but are not "better" than team games for balance. Edited August 5, 2022 by BreakfastBurrito_007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrstgtr Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 hours ago, LetswaveaBook said: I hold the opinion that to properly test for balance it is better to play a 1v1 Clearly need both. Best civ for 1v1 right now is ptol. Best civ for 4v4 right now is iber. They’re different gameplays that involve different strategies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted August 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Only @Player of 0AD and I have added to the poll, can some others also enter your username and availability tomorrow here? https://www.when2meet.com/?16309448-e8MLS If at least 4 or 5 of us can come, we could easily recuit an additional 3 or 4 from the a25 lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted August 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 Ok everyone! from the 4 people that responded , we will meet at 2:00pm GMT in the A26 release candidate 2 lobby. I will also be on later, if some players from the Americas don't want to wake up early how about 2:00pm GMT and 9:00pm GMT? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetswaveaBook Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it to the game. I hope you get some good games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakutstha Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 Where is the link to download A26? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse_Harold Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 06/08/2022 at 2:14 PM, Kakutstha said: Where is the link to download A26? The download link is in the first post of the A26 testing thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse_Harold Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) C'mon guys, please don't sign up and then not attend. omL, AUTISTICUS and I decided to attend the event. The only other players we saw at 9 pm GMT were real_tabasco_sauce and Iaintborg (probably@borg-). borg was the only one who replied to AUTISTICUS and they played an a26 game briefly. I was still setting up alpha 26 rc2 at the time, but I joined later and invited people from the a25 lobby. Kakutstha and freyyja seemed interested. We sent them the download link for alpha 26 rc2. I'll do this again today (Sunday, August 7th) at 9 pm GMT. We can start a routine of playing alpha 26 release candidates for at least a few team games every weekend starting at 8 pm GMT. Be there or be square. Edited August 7, 2022 by Norse_Harold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted August 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 19 hours ago, Norse_Harold said: C'mon guys, please don't sign up and then not attend. omL, AUTISTICUS and I decided to attend the event. The only other players we saw at 9 pm GMT were real_tabasco_sauce and Iaintborg (probably@borg-). borg was the only one who replied to AUTISTICUS and they played an a26 game briefly. I was still setting up alpha 26 rc2 at the time, but I joined later and invited people from the a25 lobby. Kakutstha and freyyja seemed interested. We sent them the download link for alpha 26 rc2. I'll do this again today (Sunday, August 7th) at 9 pm GMT. We can start a routine of playing alpha 26 release candidates for at least a few team games every weekend starting at 8 pm GMT. Be there or be square. I can do this on Saturdays but not Sundays. Good idea, we can have games on the RC2 and latest version and chat in the same lobby (I am slowly inching towards a successful build!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borg- Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 21 hours ago, Norse_Harold said: C'mon guys, please don't sign up and then not attend. omL, AUTISTICUS and I decided to attend the event. The only other players we saw at 9 pm GMT were real_tabasco_sauce and Iaintborg (probably@borg-). borg was the only one who replied to AUTISTICUS and they played an a26 game briefly. I was still setting up alpha 26 rc2 at the time, but I joined later and invited people from the a25 lobby. Kakutstha and freyyja seemed interested. We sent them the download link for alpha 26 rc2. I'll do this again today (Sunday, August 7th) at 9 pm GMT. We can start a routine of playing alpha 26 release candidates for at least a few team games every weekend starting at 8 pm GMT. Be there or be square. It's not me. If I can I will make some games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Can you guys upload the replays? It's hard to get fresh replays of SVN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted August 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 This is from RC2, not SVN, but @Player of 0AD should have a 1 or 2 replays. me vs @BreakfastBurrito_007 The kushite boom is cool. metadata.jsoncommands.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player of 0AD Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Stan` said: Can you guys upload the replays? It's hard to get fresh replays of SVN. FormationBugs.zip 27032Match.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: me vs @BreakfastBurrito_007 The kushite boom is cool. It would be cool if I did not get housed with 0 on wood XD. But I certainly like the unique strategy planning aspect that Kushites get with how they place their temple/s in p1. Edited August 9, 2022 by BreakfastBurrito_007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapjas Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 @Player of 0AD The formation bug should be solved if you update to latest rev. rP27034 (wildfiregames.com) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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