Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

1 hour ago, Gurken Khan said:

What are we doing with Agis III?

I suggest dropping him in favor of Agis II and give him a siege bonus.

Admiral Lysander? A naval hero for Spartans.

[Fabius]

On 10/01/2023 at 12:00 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Centurions added to the game for the Romans: https://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/27400

 

that is a really nice icon  looking forward to the in-game unit

[Outis]

On 12/01/2023 at 3:04 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Admiral Lysander? A naval hero for Spartans.

Lysander fits so well as he ended the Peloponnesian War. From gameplay point of view, he gives an option to improve the navy and match other existing (Themistocles) or potential naval heroes.

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

Should Persian team bonus be expanded to affect things such as: Athens' Gym, arsenals, elephant stables, maybe temples? or would this be too OP?

keep in mind comparing it to ptol, iberian, roman, or other powerful team bonuses.

[Gurken Khan]

13 minutes ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:

Should Persian team bonus be expanded

And is "Training Regimes" an appropriate name?

[chrstgtr]

1 hour ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:

Should Persian team bonus be expanded to affect things such as: Athens' Gym, arsenals, elephant stables, maybe temples? or would this be too OP?

keep in mind comparing it to ptol, iberian, roman, or other powerful team bonuses.

Don’t really care, but I would rather lean into what we have now and further decrease costs/build time. Sele bonus does more for CCs and Maurya bonus does much more for temples 

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

2 hours ago, chrstgtr said:

Don’t really care, but I would rather lean into what we have now and further decrease costs/build time. Sele bonus does more for CCs and Maurya bonus does much more for temples 

Thats a good point, expanding it to many more buildings could potentially put the bonus in a spot where it is either not noticeable, or noticeable and OP since it affects power buildings like rams/eles. 

[Stan`]

Updated this page with the latest stats.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

21 minutes ago, Stan` said:

Updated this page with the latest stats.

Which page? 

[Stan`]

Sorry X)

http://docs.wildfiregames.com/templatesanalyzer/

[Gurken Khan]

I just noticed that large stone quarries have double the worker slots as metal mines; is that intended?

[Outis]

I believe it is only in certain biomes like temperate

[Gurken Khan]

51 minutes ago, Outis said:

I believe it is only in certain biomes like temperate

mkay...?

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

I like the additional stone miners and I think it should be done for metal too. The issue is if you only have 1 metal mine your rate of metal gathering is capped, but with 2 mines you can have more than 24. Raising this level to 48, or even 36, would give players time to expand to other sources, which would make the single source mineral less disadvantageous.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

On 21/01/2023 at 4:26 PM, Gurken Khan said:

I just noticed that large stone quarries have double the worker slots as metal mines; is that intended?

In the game or in the mod?

 

EDIT: Only the one stone template, temperate_large_02, has 48 gatherers. I think because its oblong shape. I personally think all "small" ores and rocks should be 10 gatherers and all "large" ones 30. 

Edited January 23, 2023 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

On 05/01/2023 at 10:13 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Macedonians

"Naval Arms Race"

• Unlock the Hexeres heavy warship for Macedon

No takers one this one.

[chrstgtr]

10 hours ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:

I like the additional stone miners and I think it should be done for metal too. The issue is if you only have 1 metal mine your rate of metal gathering is capped, but with 2 mines you can have more than 24. Raising this level to 48, or even 36, would give players time to expand to other sources, which would make the single source mineral less disadvantageous.

The difference has been around for a little bit now (a25?). 

Having extra res always gives benefits. Extra metal mining slots also opens up potential for mercs to be abused, which not all civs can do (really a problem with mercs). Same with military techs and champs. I’m fine with it metal being capped. 

Extra stone slots means slinger civs aren’t disadvantaged vs civs that only need wood, which isn’t capped and generally available on all maps. I’m fine with some stone having extra slots. 

It adds some nuance that I’m fine with. But I think most people would adjust to whatever number of slots are permitted so long as stone gets at least like 20 on the initial stone. 

[Stan`]

Hey guys any opinions on https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4908 ?

[Gurken Khan]

7 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

In the game or in the mod?

In the game with the community mod.

7 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

EDIT: Only the one stone template, temperate_large_02, has 48 gatherers. I think because its oblong shape.

I guess it's oblong, although the shape didn't occur out of the ordinary for me.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

8 hours ago, Gurken Khan said:

I guess it's oblong, although the shape didn't occur out of the ordinary for me.

Also, keep in mind when these numbers were made up (probably by me at some point), unit collisions were a loot larger than they are now. Which is why I fully support looking into deciding on new numbers.

One thing to keep in mind is as others have mentioned that there are gameplay concerns where you probably don't want a player to be able to throw 100 gatherers at a mine and get 3000 metal in 2 minutes flat or other such scenarios.

 

But yeah, some new gatherer numbers for A27 community mod could be what the doctor ordered. 

[real_tabasco_sauce]

an additional row of soldiers looks great on walls:

This was just a quick test, so I only did it for the Athens long wall, but I think it would work for all the other walls too.

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4914

Edited January 29, 2023 by real_tabasco_sauce

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

I think some kind of lobby message would really help expose more of the community to the mod, perhaps a short intro to the mod and a list of the top 1-5 most popular changes would make people interested enough to get it. It could be an automated message when players join the lobby. 

[Stan`]

3 hours ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:

I think some kind of lobby message would really help expose more of the community to the mod, perhaps a short intro to the mod and a list of the top 1-5 most popular changes would make people interested enough to get it. It could be an automated message when players join the lobby. 

It's doable but popups are a bit spammy.

[alre]

16 hours ago, Stan` said:

It's doable but popups are a bit spammy.

right now they are way better than not doing anything. the lobby is divided between different versions of the game and this hurts the project. 

[BreakfastBurrito_007]

1 hour ago, alre said:

right now they are way better than not doing anything. the lobby is divided between different versions of the game and this hurts the project. 

I find that its not too much of a problem when you have plenty of mod hosts and plenty of vanilla hosts. I occasionally join 0ad in my morning in Pacific time and find it to be devoid of community mod hosts. I think this is because the main promoters of the mod play in my afternoon time and haven't been there in the morning to hype it up.

I am thinking it would just be part of the popup message that plays just when you join 0ad lobby, so it would not be too annoying.