Syracuse Mod Idea/Brainstorming

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 25/06/2021 at 5:45 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

You're asking the wrong guy.

@wraitii @Freagarach @Angen @Stan`

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I thought you had something already, I understand, we would have to speak it well, you know.

 

Hopefully convince our team.

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

I divised some plans for the unique build : "Fortified Port", now only need a sketch. Its not perfect but I think it can help to visualize the proportions. It's to ocupy roughly the same area a military colony. 

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

  On 25/06/2021 at 11:55 AM, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

I divised some plans for the unique build : "Fortified Port", now only need a sketch. Its not perfect but I think it can help to visualize the proportions. It's to ocupy roughly the same area a military colony. 

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Damm, I'm so illiterate, can't even spell roof tiles right...

[Lopess]

  On 25/06/2021 at 11:55 AM, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

I divised some plans for the unique build : "Fortified Port", now only need a sketch. Its not perfect but I think it can help to visualize the proportions. It's to ocupy roughly the same area a military colony. 

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Enough for a start, tomorrow I'll have some free time, I'll do it on top of Spartan structures.

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

  On 25/06/2021 at 2:34 PM, Lopess said:

Enough for a start, tomorrow I'll have some free time, I'll do it on top of Spartan structures.

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If you need anything else just say it. And thanks again.

Edited June 25, 2021 by PyrrhicVictoryGuy

[Freagarach]

  On 25/06/2021 at 5:42 AM, Lion.Kanzen said:

how would that work at the script level?

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Well, it needs more refactoring and generalisation in the Production Queue code. I tested it a bit some time ago, but there is still too much hardcoding. So for now: not possible.

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 29/06/2021 at 7:17 AM, Freagarach said:

Well, it needs more refactoring and generalisation in the Production Queue code. I tested it a bit some time ago, but there is still too much hardcoding. So for now: not possible.

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I figured that .

Edited June 29, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Yekaterina]

Achemedes death ray concept:

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

  On 02/07/2021 at 8:48 PM, Yekaterina said:

Achemedes death ray concept

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Pretty cool!! How did you do it? Is it an aura type thing?

[Yekaterina]

  On 02/07/2021 at 8:58 PM, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

Pretty cool!! How did you do it? Is it an aura type thing?

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I made it from a defence tower. I changed the firing rate of the defence tower to 50ms and damage to 3.5 fire. Then I deleted the projectiles on the actor. 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

  On 02/07/2021 at 8:48 PM, Yekaterina said:

Achemedes death ray concept:

 

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Where is the light ray?  

[Yekaterina]

  On 02/07/2021 at 9:53 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Where is the light ray?  

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In the real world you wouldn't see one. 

tbh I don't know how to make one  

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

May I suggest using the old Spartan "Ballista Tower" as the Syracusan defense tower? 

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

I think this should be and additional upgrade for the p1 tower, either you upgrade to the p2 tower we already have or you upgrade it to the " Mirror Tower", it would have to be more expensive  than the normal p2 tower upgrade but enables it to affect siege machines but not regular units. I think a choice like this, between denying area to units vs denying area to siege would be interesting.

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by PyrrhicVictoryGuy

[hopeless-ponderer]

  On 24/06/2021 at 9:23 PM, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

Can't we have a tech that trains a fixed batch of x troops? I say a tech because it would only be used once.

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I had some time to code a patch for this this weekend. All it took were a few tweaks to TechnologyManager.js and ProductionQueue.js:  tech_triggers.zip

With this patch you can add "triggers" to each technology.json. I added @wowgetoffyourcellphone's Epigamia tech as an example:

{
	"genericName": "Marriage Pact",
	"specificName": {
		"sele": "Epigamia"
	},
	"description": "Form a marriage pact with the Maurya Empire. Receive a one-time gift of 20 War Elephants, in exchange for reduced territory push for Civil Centers.",
	"cost": {
		"metal": 600
	},
	"requirements": {
		"all": [
			{ "tech": "phase_city" },
			{ "civ": "sele" },
			{
				"entity": {
					"class": "SeleucusNikator",
					"number": 1
				}
			}
		]
	},
	"requirementsTooltip": "Unlocked in City Phase. Requires training the hero Seleucus I (Nikator).",
	"icon": "sibylline_books.png",
	"researchTime": 40,
	"tooltip": "Receive a one-time gift of 20 Maurya War Elephants, in exchange for reduced territory push for Civil Centers.",
	"modifications": [
		{ "value": "TerritoryInfluence/Radius", "multiply": 0.7, "affects": "CivCentre" }
	],
	"triggers": [{
		"systemComponent": "Trigger",
		"func": "TechSpawnUnits",
		"args": [{
			"researcher": "{{ researcher }}",
			"player": "{{ playerID }}",
			"unitTemplate": "units/maur/champion_elephant",
			"count": 20
		}]
	}],
	"soundComplete": "interface/alarm/alarm_upgradearmory.xml"
}

There are three elements to each trigger:

1. The component name. A component is basically one of the elements in a template like "ProductionQueue" or "Health". There are three types of components you can use: entityComponents, playerComponents, and systemComponents. Entity components are components of the structure or unit that researched the tech, player components are components contained in player.xml, and system components are global, gamewide components like Triggers. This particular example uses a custom-written trigger function in Triggers~tech_triggers.js.
2. The function name ("func"). The available functions for each component are in simulation/components/<Component>.js.
3. The args: an array of args to feed to the function. Certain properties can be parsed into the args if they are contained between double brackets, like {{ playerID }}. Currently, researcher (the entity that researched the tech) and playerID are the only properties that can be parsed like this.

You can make your tech spawn any units you want by replacing the value of unitTemplate in the example above.

I'll try to submit this for A26. You can add the code directly to your mod as well, but I can understand not wanting to maintain a lot of js code in a faction-based mod like this. In the meantime I'm going to add it to Mare Nostrum, if you want to play around with it there.

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

  On 06/07/2021 at 1:05 AM, hopeless-ponderer said:

I had some time to code a patch for this this weekend. All it took were a few tweaks to TechnologyManager.js and ProductionQueue.js:  tech_triggers.zip

With this patch you can add "triggers" to each technology.json. I added @wowgetoffyourcellphone's Epigamia tech as an example:

{
	"genericName": "Marriage Pact",
	"specificName": {
		"sele": "Epigamia"
	},
	"description": "Form a marriage pact with the Maurya Empire. Receive a one-time gift of 20 War Elephants, in exchange for reduced territory push for Civil Centers.",
	"cost": {
		"metal": 600
	},
	"requirements": {
		"all": [
			{ "tech": "phase_city" },
			{ "civ": "sele" },
			{
				"entity": {
					"class": "SeleucusNikator",
					"number": 1
				}
			}
		]
	},
	"requirementsTooltip": "Unlocked in City Phase. Requires training the hero Seleucus I (Nikator).",
	"icon": "sibylline_books.png",
	"researchTime": 40,
	"tooltip": "Receive a one-time gift of 20 Maurya War Elephants, in exchange for reduced territory push for Civil Centers.",
	"modifications": [
		{ "value": "TerritoryInfluence/Radius", "multiply": 0.7, "affects": "CivCentre" }
	],
	"triggers": [{
		"systemComponent": "Trigger",
		"func": "TechSpawnUnits",
		"args": [{
			"researcher": "{{ researcher }}",
			"player": "{{ playerID }}",
			"unitTemplate": "units/maur/champion_elephant",
			"count": 20
		}]
	}],
	"soundComplete": "interface/alarm/alarm_upgradearmory.xml"
}

There are three elements to each trigger:

1. The component name. A component is basically one of the elements in a template like "ProductionQueue" or "Health". There are three types of components you can use: entityComponents, playerComponents, and systemComponents. Entity components are components of the structure or unit that researched the tech, player components are components contained in player.xml, and system components are global, gamewide components like Triggers. This particular example uses a custom-written trigger function in Triggers~tech_triggers.js.
2. The function name ("func"). The available functions for each component are in simulation/components/<Component>.js.
3. The args: an array of args to feed to the function. Certain properties can be parsed into the args if they are contained between double brackets, like {{ playerID }}. Currently, researcher (the entity that researched the tech) and playerID are the only properties that can be parsed like this.

You can make your tech spawn any units you want by replacing the value of unitTemplate in the example above.

I'll try to submit this for A26. You can add the code directly to your mod as well, but I can understand not wanting to maintain a lot of js code in a faction-based mod like this. In the meantime I'm going to add it to Mare Nostrum, if you want to play around with it there.

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You're brilliant  mate!!

 

Would it be possible to make the hoplite unit something like this?

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

The design document has been updated, making it the 5 iteration. It now includes a tech tree, more reference images for the unit roster as well as the hero roster and further elaborates on the unique technologies.

[Yekaterina]

THank  you! How did you like my death ray? 

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

  On 07/07/2021 at 11:54 PM, Yekaterina said:

THank  you! How did you like my death ray? 

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Brilliant idea ....that i completely forgot to add, oops! It will be there no worries

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

@Yekaterina what are we missing now? The structure templates?

[Yekaterina]

  On 27/07/2021 at 2:09 PM, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

what are we missing now? The structure templates?

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It is pretty much done. I am just fixing bugs right now  

[Lion.Kanzen]

Another approach.

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

  On 02/07/2021 at 9:53 PM, Yekaterina said:

In the real world you wouldn't see one. 

tbh I don't know how to make one  

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I'm just itching to see this one civ through, really.

[Yekaterina]

  On 29/07/2021 at 7:06 PM, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said:

I'm just itching to see this one civ through, really.

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Download from github already: https://github.com/0ADMods/Syracuse-mod

[PyrrhicVictoryGuy]

  On 29/07/2021 at 8:17 PM, Yekaterina said:

Download from github already: https://github.com/0ADMods/Syracuse-mod

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Well i just did and there a lot of problems. Although I suspect this was my fault. Should have made an entirely new repository.

Edited July 29, 2021 by PyrrhicVictoryGuy