Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) I am creating a mod that gives Athenians Stoa in P2. The xml files have already been put in place and the new structure did show up in the scenario editor, called superbarracks (looks like a Ptolemy temple because that is the only model I can find). However, the main game refuses to incorporate this structure into the Structure tree of Athenians. When I looked in public\simulation\templates\structures\athen, the stoa already exists, yet we can't build it in the game. So I am wondering, how did the structure tree ignore this building? Even the women refuse to build it. Everything else works in the scenario editor; I could train from the superbarrack. Have I missed something? Here is the modpack restore-stoa.zip Edited May 11, 2021 by Yekaterina Updated Mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 @Stan` @wowgetoffyourcellphone Please help me. This is so confusing. I won't have access to phabricator, svn or even git, so I will submit stuff on the forum and I will request you guys to kindly transfer these onto whatever phabricator I will be liberated in about 3 weeks, after then I can go full time 0AD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 structures/athen/superbarrack Should be structures/athen/athen_superbarrack Cause you forgot to remove the athen_ prefix from the name. 5 minutes ago, Yekaterina said: I won't have access to phabricator, svn or even git, so I will submit stuff on the forum and I will request you guys to kindly transfer these onto whatever phabricator Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, Stan` said: Why not? OP school wifi. They installed an AI that sniffs VPN or any encryption. Even obsf4 Tor browser is censored. The only two things that can get out are Psiphon and Tor with Meek-azure. This means the school filter is stronger than the great firewall of China: it not only censors websites but also has anti-VPN algorithm and banned the use of terminals /command prompts. You cannot access the internet using command terminals; even a ping has difficulty getting out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 No public wifi in the area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, Stan` said: No public wifi in the area? No way. It is a rural school. Mobile data in the UK is expensive and slow. Speeds are between 20KB/s and 100KB/s where I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Which units should be trained from the Stoa? Please give me some suggestions, balancing advisors. @Player of 0AD @maroder @Lion.Kanzen @ValihrAnt @Stan` By default I am thinking a sword champion and a skirmisher champion? Also what should the stats of the Stoa be? Updated edition of the mod: no units in P2 yet, but structure is in place. restore-stoa.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av93 Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 maybe better a mercenary camp / mercenary barracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borg- Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 The changes usually have a reason. Stoa and the champions were removed not simply because we thought it would be better that way, but because they are historically wrong. We seek to emphasize the historical precision in the changes to a24. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Ok I will change it to a barrack of some sort then. I will start by calling it Elite Barrack. Tell me if you have better names. The idea is we want Athens and Sparta and Mace to have P2 champs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, av93 said: maybe better a mercenary camp / mercenary barracks I was thinking of embassy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, borg- said: The changes usually have a reason. Stoa and the champions were removed not simply because we thought it would be better that way, but because they are historically wrong. We seek to emphasize the historical precision in the changes to a24. You just have to change the name, not that it is a Stoa, but that it trains mercenaries. They want a new barrack for mercenaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 56 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: They want a new barrack for mercenaries. OK OK I added a sword champ + heavy skirmisher to it and I will remove them. The thing is, Sparta has no mercenaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Yekaterina said: OK OK I added a sword champ + heavy skirmisher to it and I will remove them. The thing is, Sparta has no mercenaries. What other factions would use this building? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: What other factions would use this building? Athens, Sparta. I think perhaps Macedon as well. Dizaka said he wants to make Macedon a push civ, and I love Macedon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfinn the Shallow Minded Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Yekaterina said: The idea is we want Athens and Sparta and Mace to have P2 champs For Sparta, they could just have their mess hall be available to build at the Town Phase (or maybe even the Village Phase). Spartans training Spartans would be a fun novelty. Athens might be a bit trickier, but at the same time perhaps the gymnasium could be available one phase earlier. I would like to see Macedon's siege weapons available in the Town Phase alongside possibly their companion cavalry. The point is that the stoa is not necessary for this. The heavy skirmisher would be appropriate for Athens and Macedon, but those seem more like City Phase troops than Town Phase ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 The Mercenary champion camp for Athens: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, Thorfinn the Shallow Minded said: For Sparta, they could just have their mess hall be available to build at the Town Phase (or maybe even the Village Phase). Spartans training Spartans would be a fun novelty. Athens might be a bit trickier, but at the same time perhaps the gymnasium could be available one phase earlier. I would like to see Macedon's siege weapons available in the Town Phase alongside possibly their companion cavalry. The point is that the stoa is not necessary for this. The heavy skirmisher would be appropriate for Athens and Macedon, but those seem more like City Phase troops than Town Phase ones. Very good suggestions, thank you. Now it seems like I need to redo the whole mod but I will do it (I am a Try Hard). I will implement everything said by Throfinn the Shallow Minded. P2 siege is absolutely pleasurable for Mace players and pain for everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Yekaterina said: The Mercenary champion camp for Athens: Remind me to make you an icon for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 This is the final revision of the Stoa Mod. I guess I will open a new page for Throfinn the Shallow Minded Mod. restore-stoa.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfinn the Shallow Minded Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Yekaterina said: Very good suggestions, thank you. Now it seems like I need to redo the whole mod but I will do it (I am a Try Hard). I will implement everything said by Throfinn the Shallow Minded. P2 siege is absolutely pleasurable for Mace players and pain for everyone else Glad to be of help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borg- Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) If I remember, not only Stoa is historically wrong, but those mercenaries too. Perhaps changing the name of these units is necessary to historically correct mercenary unit. A specialist in Greek culture would be interesting here. Edited May 11, 2021 by borg- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 @Ultimate Aurelian maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av93 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 IRC, Stoa was a commerce building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, av93 said: IRC, Stoa was a commerce building. Yes, that is why I changed the name to superbarrack. Please check out Thorfinn the Shallow Minded Mod; that is the newer, better mod. Tell me what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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