Sundiata Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 @Alexandermb I think that looks pretty great! I think you can hollow out the front trapezoid box to create a sort of elevated platform. You could also make the ship a teeny bit more narrow. Spoiler These are also interesting refs. See how they use the "box" at the front as an elevated platform. Khufu's ship illustrates how narrow these boats can be. The way you are going, I could easily imagine 3 types of ships, small, medium, and large. The small one would remain the current small warship that they have. The Large one would be the one you're working on now. And the medium one could be the same as the large one, but scaled down, and without the central cabin, similar to the first ref in the spoiler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 @Sundiata probably continue tmw. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 @Alexandermb Daaayum... Thanks for doing this! Awesome... Here's some more inspiration on a somewhat different type of vessel. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 @Alexandermb I hope this is useful? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imarok Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Alexandermb said: using them in deck and not under deck, so we will have literally "Ghost oars" Flying Why that? Can't we just add units standing on the boat and using the oars? (Nice work as always) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Sundiata said: @Alexandermb I hope this is useful? Yep, now we have more variants Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Imarok said: Why that? Can't we just add units standing on the boat and using the oars? (Nice work as always) Would be weird with the rest of the ships but if that is desired i'll make the animations for the oarsmen. (Something like that was discussed with the norse ships too, because of the ships scale compared with units). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Sundiata said: @Alexandermb Daaayum... Thanks for doing this! Awesome... Here's some more inspiration on a somewhat different type of vessel. Reveal hidden contents So the one i'm doing would be the trireme, and that one the bireme Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imarok Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Alexandermb said: Would be weird with the rest of the ships but if that is desired i'll make the animations for the oarsmen. (Something like that was discussed with the norse ships too, because of the ships scale compared with units). Hmm, true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Imarok said: Hmm, true. So what? Instead of 170 rowers the ship has 50. Still cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Alexandermb said: Yep, now we have more variants Awesome! I'll make at least one more very soon. 2 hours ago, Alexandermb said: So the one i'm doing would be the trireme, and that one the bireme Right? If you're up for it, yes . It would be nice to have three ship types. If you do the "bireme", I'd even suggest to put a build-limit of only one of those bigger "triremes", and call it a "royal barque", with some kind of special bonus if you garrison a hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 The game should really rename the classes of ship to light, medium, and heavy, instead of bireme, trireme, and quinquireme, which are specifically Roman terms. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTreePaladin Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Sundiata said: I'd even suggest to put a build-limit of only one of those bigger "triremes", and call it a "royal barque", with some kind of special bonus if you garrison a hero. I'd actually put build limits on all the ships, but that's a separate topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: The game should really rename the classes of ship to light, medium, and heavy, instead of bireme, trireme, and quinquireme, which are specifically Roman terms. Agree, i had to rename norse drekkar to Quinquereme in the unit template file to AI properly use it in the docks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 @Sundiata so you suggested to change this box as a hollow platform like the ones in the other references right? Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 @Alexandermb Indeed. You can actually see someone standing there in the original reference as well. You could do the same for the box in the back. The sail should also be wider. Looking good by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Sundiata said: @Alexandermb Indeed. You can actually see someone standing there in the original reference as well. You could do the same for the box in the back. The sail should also be wider. Looking good by the way. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 @Sundiata also we could use also more kushites sails variants, we have only exclusive for the kushite this one: Spoiler Preview: Spoiler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) @Alexandermb I love it! The only thing I'd still say is to make the sails wider. In most of refs, the sails seem to be about 60% to 90% the length of the vessel. Yours look less than 50% the length. I wouldn't mind adding an Eye of Horus to the prow of the ship if you provide the textures. I hope you can use this Pegasus. The Pegasus was a symbol of some of the Legions. To tie it in a little with the other one I just added the SPQR. If there's any Rome-experts out there that care to weigh in, because I'm not an expert in this department.. Edited January 21, 2019 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 https://www.ancient.eu/Roman_Coinage/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Genava55 said: https://www.ancient.eu/Roman_Coinage/ Yeah, i saw a bunch of Pegasi in Roman coins: Spoiler That last one is Greek Romulus and Remus are also a popular subject... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Sundiata said: @Alexandermb I love it! The only thing I'd still say is to make the sails wider. In most of refs, the sails seem to be about 60% to 90% the length of the vessel. Yours look less than 50% the length. I wouldn't mind adding an Eye of Horus to the prow of the ship if you provide the textures. I'll make wider the sail. Here the Pegasus Sail: (Ive did a little adjust with gimp to the pegasus, the lines were a bit small so the pegasus wasn't visible enough. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, Alexandermb said: Hmmm, I might retry that tonight with a more stylized classical looking Pegasus from Greco Roman coins Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diatryma Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Pegasus isn't exclusive symbol. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/moonmoth/pegasos_coins.html you can use others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_(mythology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She-wolf_(Roman_mythology) http://www.calgarycoin.com/reference/myth/myroma.htm it would be a shame if you chose to represent pegaso as a symbol of the Roman republic. Edited January 22, 2019 by Diatryma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Diatryma said: Pegasus isn't exclusive symbol. Yes, I know... If we strip everything that isn't exclusively Roman, we'd have no Romans... 45 minutes ago, Diatryma said: it would be a shame if you chose to represent pegaso as a symbol of the Roman republic. Considering the Romans actually used Pegasus as a symbol themselves, including for one of their legions (III Augusta), it really wouldn't be a shame... It's just to add variation to the sails. I'm not totally happy with how it turned out, style-wise, that's why I was looking at Roman depictions of Pegasus. I liked the coin of Roma and the chariot in one of your links, so I might look at that. Romulus and Remus with the wolf was already planned. Perhaps other people would also prefer to ignore the Roman Pegasus and make a Greek Pegasos for the Athenian sails instead, let me know. I'm not one to ignore things because they don't fit our preconceptions, but maybe you guys prefer it for distinguishing purposes? More appropriate Roman symbols are always super welcome though! Edited January 22, 2019 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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