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Ok I watched too .try to upload some art works. We need this group can be a succes and bring more artist. You can be a good Ace in the hand. See I love this old school art. In Empire Earth and total war were great. This for Rome 2.

I agree with you, is weird have both types and that textures. Only need colorized in yellow right?

Little is known of Germanic helmets from this time period, which is why there have been many discussions regarding the Cimbri armour. No Germanic helmets from antiquity have been discovered, other than some re-worked Roman ones. Trajans Column does make up for this somewhat in its depiction of four irregulars. Scene thirty-six, shows a helmet consisting of a brow band, fore to aft band and ear to ear band, held on by a chinstrap. The angular shape of the bands determines they were made of metal, and therefore are called Crossband style helmets. Between the bands, and also below the neck of the helmet, locks of hair can be seen. These are considered the warriors own locks, as opposed to metal imitation of hair or wigs found on Roman helmets. I need confirm this from Rome Surrectum mod. Trajan column.

Is hard too find and I don't stop because, I open many pages with rich information. If stop, is hard I want to do this tomorrow. If you guys wanna help me try the open the sources and find, or find non English words. Thank you guys for help and inspired my search. I hope no one angry for posting, many people thinks somebody paids me for this. Or why I'm the only one the posting is because I love this. History.

HJORTSPRING BOG In a bog just 50 meters across on the island of Als in southern Denmark, peat diggers discovered well-preserved remains of a wooden boat and spears in the 1880s. In 1921 excavations began that uncovered most of the boat and a large assemblage of weapons, all deposited in about 350–300 B.C. The practice of depositing weapons, and occasionally boats, in ponds and lakes of northern Europe became relatively common during the latter part of the Roman Iron Age, A.D. 200–500. Among the best-known sites of that period are Illerup, Nydam, Thorsberg, and Vimose. As vegetation grows into and across them over time, ponds and lakes often develop into bogs, where the waterlogged and acidic environment preserves organic materials exceptionally well. Hjortspring is the largest of the pre-Roman Iron Age weapon deposits.

Helmets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spangenhelm The Spangenhelm was a popular medieval European combat helmet design of the Early Middle Ages.[1] The name is of German origin. Spangen refers to the metal strips that form the framework for the helmet and could be translated as braces, and -helm simply means helmet. The strips connect three to six steel or bronze plates. The frame takes a conical design that curves with the shape of the head and culminates in a point. The front of the helmet may include a nose protector (a nasal). Older spangenhelms often include cheek flaps made from metal or leather. Spangenhelms may incorporate mail as neck protection, thus forming a partial aventail. Some spangenhelms include eye protection in a shape that resembles modern eyeglass frames. Other spangenhelms include a full face mask. The spangenhelm arrived in Western Europe by way of what is now southern Russia and Ukraine, spread by nomadic Iranian tribes such as the Scythians and Sarmatians who lived among the Eurasian steppes. By the 6th century it was the most common helmet design in Europe and in popular use throughout the Middle East. It remained in use at least as late as the 9th century.[2] The spangenhelm was an effective protection that was relatively easy to produce. Weakness of the design were its partial head protection and its jointed construction. It was replaced by similarly shaped helmets made with one-piece skulls (nasal helms), kettle hats and eventually the Great helm or casque. The Spangenhelm was a popular medieval European combat helmet design of the Early Middle Ages.[1] The name is of German origin. Spangen refers to the metal strips that form the framework for the helmet and could be translated as braces, and -helm simply means helmet. The strips connect three to six steel or bronze plates. The frame takes a conical design that curves with the shape of the head and culminates in a point. The front of the helmet may include a nose protector (a nasal). Older spangenhelms often include cheek flaps made from metal or leather. Spangenhelms may incorporate mail as neck protection, thus forming a partial aventail. Some spangenhelms include eye protection in a shape that resembles modern eyeglass frames. Other spangenhelms include a full face mask. The spangenhelm arrived in Western Europe by way of what is now southern Russia and Ukraine, spread by nomadic Iranian tribes such as the Scythians and Sarmatians who lived among the Eurasian steppes. By the 6th century it was the most common helmet design in Europe and in popular use throughout the Middle East. It remained in use at least as late as the 9th century.[2] The spangenhelm was an effective protection that was relatively easy to produce. Weakness of the design were its partial head protection and its jointed construction. It was replaced by similarly shaped helmets made with one-piece skulls (nasal helms), kettle hats and eventually the Great helm or casque.

About the ships. The leiðangr was a system organising a coastal fleet with the aim of defence, coerced trade, plunderings, and aggressive wars. Normally, the fleet levy was on expeditions for two or three summer months. All free men were obliged to take part in or contribute to the leiðangr. All of the leiðangr was called to arms when invading forces threatened the land. In the expeditions only a fraction of the ships were taking part, but as expeditions often were profitable, many magnates and chieftains tried to join with their people as often as possible. The lands were divided into districts, ship's crews, "skipreiða" (Old Norse), "skipæn" (Danish) or "skeppslag"/"roslag" (Swedish). The farmers of the district had to build and equip a rowed sailing ship. The size of the ships was defined as a standardized number of oars, initially 40 oars, later 24 oars. In Norway, there were 279 such districts in 1277, in Denmark two-three times as many. The head of a district was called "styrimaðr" or "styræsmand", steersman, and he functioned as captain of the ship. The smallest unit was the crew of peasants who had to arm and provide for one oarsman ("hafnæ" in Danish, "hamna" in Swedish, "manngerð" in Old Norse). In Sweden a "hamna" was made up of two "attung" which was "two eighth parts of a village". One attung seems to have been equal to the land areal it took to feed an ordinary family (around 12 acers, see Hide (unit), Virgate and Oxgang for English equivalents). Each attung also regard as a "share" in the raid so one who owned two attunghad twice as much chance to go on the raid as one who owned only one. Those who owned less than attung had to team up together with others that owned less than attungform a unit of one attungand share the burdens as well as the profit. According to the Law of Uppland, the hundreds of Uppland provided as many as four ships each (4 ships with 24 crewmen and 1 steersman each equals a 100 men), those of Västmanland two ships and those of Roslagen one ship (the name indicate that this was seen as just one ship's crew but they was not part of a hundred and might have had the same rights/function of whole hundred only less people).

I found this for goths and vandals. Via Wulfila's bible translation we do know 4th Century Gothic military terms he used to describe the 1st Century Roman army. These terms reflect the Gothic military organization that grew from its Germanic roots under Roman and Central Asian (Hunnic) influence. Known terms include: Drauhtinon (to war)[72] Gadrauhts (Soldier, Militiaman)[73][74] Hundafaþs (used to describe a Roman Centurion)[75][76] Common Germanic organization of troops of a hundred armed men (in the Scandinavian Leidang it could refer to less than a hundred or several hundred organized and armed men), literally meaning 'group of a hundred' Harjis (Army)[77][78] Hansa (used to describe a Roman Cohort)[78] In Germanic terms meaning a band (of warriors); a related term is the later used German: Hanse, Dutch: Hanze, Estonian: hansa, Polish: Hanza, Swedish: Hansan for the Hanseatic League Hairus (Sword)[79] Notes[edit] Hounds= hundred? Centuria=cien Spanish . But later the Marian reform is 80.

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Now Frisian with Mixes Franks and Saxons? North Sea Germanics: Frisians, Chauci, Saxons, Batavians, Cananefates, Tubanti, Frisiavones. ____________________________________________ Alemanni and Suebi Rhine-Weser-Germanics:Tencteri, Bructeri; Cherusci, Chatti Elbe Germanics (Elbe Swabians) Langobards, Semnones, Hermunduri, Marcomanni, Quadi, Angle. Baltic-See Germanics: Heruli, Suiones (Svear), Jutes and many small Scandinavian tribes such as Gautes, (Geats) Hilleviones, Eutdoses, Sitones, Vagoth, Harudes, Chaedini, Firaesi, Favonae, Dauciones. Wars of Frisii against Romans. The Frisii were little more than occasional and incidental players in Roman accounts of history, which focus on Roman actions that were of interest to Roman readers. As a consequence, references to them are disjoint and offer little useful information about them. When Drusus brought Roman forces through Frisii lands in 12 BC and "won them over", he placed a moderate tax on them. However, a later Roman governor raised the requirements and exacted payment, at first decimating the herds of the Frisii, then confiscating their land, and finally taking wives and children into bondage. By AD 28 the Frisii had had enough. They hanged the Roman soldiers collecting the tax and forced the governor to flee to a Roman fort, which they then besieged. The propraetor of Lower Germany, Lucius Apronius, raised the siege and attacked the Frisii, but was defeated at the Battle of Baduhenna Wood after suffering heavy losses. For whatever reason, the Romans did not seek revenge and the matter was closed. The prestige of the Frisii among the neighboring Germanic tribes was raised considerably.[15] After their experiences with the predatory Roman governor and Lucius Apronius, the Frisii became disaffected towards Rome. In AD 47 the Frisii along with the Chauci were led by a certain Gannascus of the Canninefates. They raided along the then-wealthy coast of Gallia Belgica.[16] The Roman military commander, Corbulo, campaigned successfully against the Germanic tribes,[17] For the and for the Frisii this meant Roman occupation, with the Romans specifying where they must live, with a fort built among them, and forcing a Roman-style senate, magistrates, and constitution upon them.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisia Frisia or Friesland is a coastal region along the southeastern corner of the North Sea, i.e. the German Bight. Frisia is the traditional homeland of the Frisians, a Germanic people who speak Frisian, a language group closely related to the English language. Frisia extends from the northwestern Netherlands across northwestern Germany to the border of Denmark (Vidå). To trace the roots of the Frisians, we have to go back to the Middle Bronze Age, to around 1750BC, when the Germanics, a large Nordic Tribe living in the Jutland and lower Scandinavia area, began to venture south.Part One By around 800BC this original tribe had become three distinct groups, the West, East and North Germanics, or the Goths, Vandals and Scandinavians. Towards the end of the Bronze Age, around 700BC, the tribe of West Germanics had reached the coastal areas of North West Germany. (There are regions in these parts today called East and North Friesland)Whilst the original Germanics had divided into three groups geographically, within each group there were also individual religious sections, the West Germanics had three such sections, the Inguaeones, the Istuaeones and the Irminones. The Frisians belong to the first of these, the Inguaeones, a name derived from the god Inguz, which was another name for the Germanic god,Freyr, from which the day Friday get it's name. Other tribes within that particular religious grouping, were the Jutes, Warns, Angles and Saxons, of which the Saxons were closest in relation to the Frisians. (The Frisian language is the closest to Anglo-Saxon (English) Altogether, the term Germanic has no universally valid meaning anymore among the different sciences (archeology, linguistics, history). In every field it means something different: Linguists characterize the attributes of languages; archaeologists categorize their finds as Germanic according to the material composition, the motives and the location of the find; historians define ethnic, cultural, and social aspects. Since modern research has adduced that related languages do not mean a consubstantiation between different peoples, Since there were peoples who probably spoke Germanic, who obviously were by the Celts so highly influenced in their culture, religion and language that historians today suggest they might have been Celtic or mixed Gallo-Germanic, Since there are grave finds in core areas, although associated with specific tribes, which cannot be clearly assigned to the Germanic people and they belong, if anything, to other tribes other reasons, previously seen as significant, can be dropped as arguments to view the Germanic people as one unified, coherent people. The Frisians by this time were accomplished fishermen and farmers. They bred the now famous Frisian cows, (black and white) and Frisian horses, (pure black)

The Other can be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutland Saxons mix Cimbri and the Franks: The name "Franci" was originally socio-political. To the Romans, Celts and Suebi the Franks must have seemed alike: they looked the same and spoke the same language, so that Franci became the name by which the people were known and within a few centuries it had eclipsed the names of the original tribes though the older names have survived in some place-names such as, Hesse which originates from the Chatti tribe. The Frisii were bordered on the south by Germans who would later coalesce into the Frankish confederation in the 3rd century. On the east they were bordered by the Ampsivarii who lived at the mouth of the Ems until AD 58,[3][4] at which time the Chauci expelled them and gained a border with the Frisii. The Chauci and other tribes to the east would merge to form the Saxons in the 3rd century. Some or all of the Frisii may have joined in either or both of these confederations, but they would retain a separate identity in Roman eyes until at least 296, when they were forcibly resettled as laeti [5] (i.e., Roman-era serfs) and thereafter disappear from recorded history. Their tentative existence in the 4th century is confirmed by archaeological discovery of a type of earthenware unique to 4th-century Frisia, called terp Tritzum, showing that an unknown number of Frisii were resettled in Flanders and Kent,[6]likely as laeti under the aforementioned Roman coercion. The lands of the Frisii were abandoned by c. 400 due to flooding caused by a marine transgression and lay empty for a century, when changing environmental conditions again made the region habitable. At that time, settlers repopulated the region and came to be known as 'Frisians'. Medieval and later accounts of 'Frisians' refer to these 'new Frisians' rather than to the ancient Frisii. In his Germania Tacitus would describe all the Germanic peoples of the region as having elected kings with limited powers and influential military leaders who led by example rather than by authority. The people lived in spread-out settlements.[12] He specifically noted the weakness of Germanic political hierarchies in reference to the Frisii, when he mentioned the names of two kings of the 1st century Frisii and added that they were kings "as far as the Germans are under kings".[13] Early Roman accounts of war and raiding do not mention the Frisii as participants, though the neighboring Canninefates (to the west and southwest) and Chauci (to the east) are named in that regard. The earliest mention of the Frisii tells of Drusus' 12 BC war against the Rhine Germans and the Chauci. The Romans did not attack them after devastating the lands of the Rhine Germans, but merely passed through their territory and along their coast in order to attack the Chauci. The account says that the Frisii were "won over", suggesting a Roman suzerainty was imposed.[14] Over the course of time the Frisii would provide Roman auxiliaries through treaty obligations, but the tribe would also appear in its own right in concert with other Germanic tribes, opposing the Romans. Accounts of wars therefore mention the Frisii on both sides of the conflict, though the actions of troops under treaty obligation were separate from the policies of the tribe.

yeah, is more easy to read, only the basic content , to read whole page. thank you. and we Save the info for future reades and seachers.

We need Mix Units into a large. example we Mix Suebi and Alemanni Tribes in all one, you can do this with Frisi and Franks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisians

Ok guys step by step we need A map, a flag emblem and shield emblem ( valnut can be work for this) See the document that I make. We have a infantry. Spearman Archer Skirmisher ... Cavalry Siege And forbidden class. Second structures. Specials and wonder.

use Spoiler feature please. you can mod if use a Gimp or Photoshop. only change textures. simply and be patient, we aren't finish with First part. we don't finish Ptolemies and we even don't start with Seleucid.

SVG http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/286/3/f/germansuebialemanni_by_lion_kanzen-d6qdpg3.svg click and save as.

Germanic Faction Document. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v98abwbY1bRMR4AOpM3yTAbWLcPj676B5JdoQsHk77w/edit?usp=sharing Mix early Faction (Suebi with Later Alemanni)

Sakutones/Skeudjonez(Sweboz long bow infantry) The Germanic archer infantry is a lightly armed skirmisher troop type whose sole purpose is to harass, wound and possibly kill enemy warriors from a safe distance. This unit is only armed with a long bow made of yew + a selection of arrows which were mostly bone/antler arrow heads but also some with fire-hardened arrow heads and simple broad headed iron arrow heads. These arrows would be carried around and protected by a simple arrow quiver made of wood, birch bark or leather. The Germanic archer only close combat weapon is a low quality hunting knife. This unit type represents the lowest strata of the Sweboz society and because they are not full members of the tribe they are not allowed to use a shield and spear which where the symbols of a free men in early Germanic society. His low status is also reflected in the simple clothings this unit wears. This unit is only really effective as a skirmish unit and maybe to chase routing enemy warriors. Historically, the Germanics only started to use archer in significant numbers during the latter part of the Roman Iron age but there is some evidence that Germanic tribes sometimes used bow and arrow as a weapon of war and not only for hunting. For example the Vædebro weapons sacrifice in Denmark feature a broken arrow shaft among the more standard weapons found at that site. Gaisofluxo Frijot, are infact the most common troop type of the Sweboz. They are the freeman backbone of the Sweboz tribal groups. Only armed with simple simple bone and/or iron tipped spearheads and only protected by a simple wooden or wicker shield this unit is not very well equipped but what they lack in equipment they make up in experience and eagerness. Though lacking in the organized training of the war bands that serve in a more regular capacity, these men are veterans of the ritualized tribal warfare within the amalgamation of German tribes, and fight with a force and fury superior to their neighbors militia. This may be the last elite militia level for 0ad.

l Is suppose to be the mini faction have a settlement in some maps like skirmish and scenario.

interesting info to mod and developers to know when programming. Thank you.

The Dugunthiz (the "Trusted" or "Capable" ones) is a unit of proud and experienced, "proven" warriors steeled by years of constant warfare and veterans of numerous conflicts, mostly tribal, but some of a larger scale. These men are hardened for battle and unlikely to flee from conflict, and are trained through long experience to work in close or open formation, and even the shield wall. The early Dugunthiz is armed with a various selection of spears and javelins most would have a metal spear heads but a few bone spearheads are also still used. The sub-rectangular shield like the ones found at Hjortspring is the Dugunthiz only way of defense. Historically, the Jugunthiz (Youth) formed the front line of battle in order to act as a screen, taking losses to increase the odds of survival for more valuable "proven" warriors (Dugunthiz) who stood just behind. The Dugunthiz formed the bulk of any Germanic force and were very versatile warriors. They were renowned for their courage in melee combat and have earned their place through consummate skill with their well accustomed gaizaz (spear). Their weapon is a mark of freedom and honor, the gaizaz has a narrow and short head, so sharp and easy to wield that the same weapon served, depending on the circumstances, for both close quarter and long range combat. I found this... Interesting not? Source. http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/artists/303725547

First we need a settlement of each civilization. And civilization and faction is not same. acorddibg with Micheal Hafer. the Lead. now if are a group of artist or Programmer that wants to Contribute do it many things of this... you must feel free to start, is a long way to bring this feature.