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Bronze Lamellar Helmets. <Reserved> as we saw earlier, the Han dynasty, It conserved varied equipment from even 1000 years before... And that even the bronze helmets from the time of the Shang dynasty, They were still valid to use in the Han dynasty. Zhou whole piece bronze helmets (1046 - 771 BCE) Why Bronze and not Iron? Because China had low metallurgy skill and were technologically behind in comparison to the rest of the World. it take less time and effort to stamp out sheets of bent steel and joining it with studded or threads rather than forging one solid piece from bronze. "Iron" is also much more common and lighter than bronze. Lamelar is often more "breathable" and flexible than a solid construction used on Xia helmets. There were quite a few surviving examples of helmets and armors prior to the Eastern Han. However, after the Eastern Han and in particular during the Tang and Song, armors were not allowed to be buried with individuals and were strictly controlled by the state. And as the state fell, the armors were either destroyed by its enemies or remade into other objects. That's probably why most armors after the Eastern Han did not survive to this day, unfortunately. <Reserved> iron is more common and cheaper than bronze. It looks like the switch to the lamelar construction may have been cost. The Chinese made their iron first as cast iron, then converted it wrought iron if needed. (Cast iron is too brittle for weapons, and possibly weapons as well). The iron pieces may represent the typical unit size of the blocks of cast iron converted to wrought iron. To make a larger piece, like a single iron helment, you would have weld together smaller blocks of iron, which was more work than to switch together smaller blocks as they did. The cast iron helmet would be too brittle for combat, heavy too. We have actual surviving samples of Han period armors, and they are all forged steel. We also have Zhuge Liang's treatise on steel , forging all armors ten times as the standard practice. Han period steel armor making was a very labor intensive process. Keep in mind, the Chinese produced their iron first as cast iron, then converted it to wrought iron later if they needed to. For many applications, they could use cast iron directly. Base on what others have posted, it seems the Chinese add carbon back in to their wrought iron to produce steel, but it is possible they converted some of their cast iron to steel directly. You have to remove carbon from cast iron to produced steel, and remove even more carbon to make wrought iron. It is well known that cast iron is not suitable for making weapons, and a lot of tools, although some tools, like a rake, shovel, you can make out of cast iron, and the Chinese did. The same source also mentioned that there are low carbon steel scales with carbon content of .1-.12%, and medium carbon steel scales with two types of grains wielded together. The smaller grains have .2% carbon while the larger ones have .5% carbon. -Traditional Chinese Craftsmanship, Armor Recovery, p 216 - 217 Also, this was before the monopolization of iron and widespread expansion of blast furnaces owned by the state under Wudi. There should be a greater scale of production of steel later. Zhuge Liang's Instruction on making steel armor state that it was standard procedure to forge all steel armor five times. Also, the Roman armors are not carbon steel, they are mostly hardened wrought iron, there is a difference. Much of the carbon, manganese, sulfur, phosphorus, and silicon content in the wrought iron are in slag fibers within the wrought iron. This meant that its harder to heat treat than carbon steel.

We're going to focus on the archaeological references for standard and hero helmets. And I see that the Chinese influence is present in other cultures. Defining what is a hero helmet in 0 A.D? It would be defined as a helmet that craftsmanship goes beyond the standard design for a simple soldier. by the way, this art is of excellent detail, even the skin reflects the intensity that a soldier should be in the Han dynasty.his face is burned either by the sun or by the intense northern weather. https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?796470-Han-Dynasty-Era-Armor I will leave a link with a backup copy on the web. In case anyone wants to read more. http://dragonsarmory.blogspot.com/2016/08/han-armor.html?m=1 Mirror TWC thread. https://archive.is/Hbjxn a movie that has an acceptable visual reference is "Red Cliff" Until middle of Han period, there seemed to be a general lack of helmets for the massed infantry. Despite the fact that most of the Chinese are familiar with the legacy of bronze plate helmets from as early as the Shang Dynasty (1600BC-1040BC) One explanation was that due to the fact that the Han engaged in an endless struggle mainly with steppe nomads who wore little to no armor, as such most of the combat would be of skirmishing nature~ thus most of the incoming harm would come from arrows rather than blows of halberds and spears as it was in the ages before. Mid- Late Han Commanders. As chariots became obsolete by the 1st Century BC, the armor of the officers became more flexible and also more voluminous, as they are more and more expected to wade in and fight in cavalry melees. Elaborate scale aventails began to appear to protect the general's neck and chins, pauldrons became longer in conjuncture with mailed sleeves, plate helmets began to appear as well (though the Chinese always had plate helmet as early as the Shang dynasty.)

The design you sent looks pretty good, I'll look at it carefully tomorrow. I need to research the helmets, even by dynasties, I don't know much about Chinese culture or the evolution of metallurgy in their military equipment.

I will try tomorrow. I'm more worried about not having found a suitable helmet. We need make a new one.

luego voy a intentar eso, voy descansar.

interesting... i will take this as reference

was trying mixing both techniques, we could definitely have better results in complicated cases. estaba probando mezclar ambas técnicas, definitivamente podríamos tener mejores resultados en casos complicados.

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I use it as a color and shade reference, ideally combining both styles.

I made a sketch of what the composition should look like with the helmet.

someone should work on this.

I think that one is fine. maybe see what kind of clothes fit him best.

what about this composition? the cheekbones should be wider.

because this.

We should do the missing props first. ( Like the helmet of one of them). Even a version with more polygons.

@Stan` this for you because is of highly management, the people who think about the whole project.(you). Stan connects us, he is the center.

If the first time I played something made by WFG it was that mod. I downloaded many mods from there.

And Portuguese (Brazilian) Lopess and -Borg speak that language In addition, the rest of the usual ones. Wraitii and Stan speak French. I speak Spanish ( also Alexandermb, Trinketos and av93) Several speak German or some Germanic language. @Sundiata speak many languages

And a record d 2 videos.

Again I went on a trip to the exit of my city, I went to visit UNITEC (Universidad Tecnológica Centroamericana) and I saw several things in the landscape, several rocks and trees, and I took some photos of them.

Mention to 0 A.D has the end with bonus games. Min 35:39

Yes, that's what i'm thinking.

Actually the game feels better with that feature.