Lion.Kanzen Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 02/12/2021 at 11:35 AM, Stan` said: Do people think I am some kind of despotic person? LMAO. The people always have that perception of authority. In some cases it is true, in your case you are very relaxed, but pragmatic. @Yekaterina What are you doing? It is good that you are part of the team. Not the official team with its secret forums. But if one of those who help modders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reyhan Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 ... hmmm My smurfing started in July when I tried to test rated games in A25 svn. I made accounts and played rated games between each other to see if the rating bot still works. Then I logged into the real game (A24) with those accounts and people's reactions were funny, so I went along with it and uncovered many other smurfs. Then it became a funny thing to do in late A24 because everyone was bored by the OP archers and turtling meta, smurfing became a source of entertainment, and many people found it funny. This is when the family smurfs appeared In A25 as cavalry rush became OP, slightly higher rated players became the target. This is when smurf accounts became necessary. Another thing is, I still find it entertaining to create new accounts and see what people have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, Reyhan said: Another thing is, I still find it entertaining to create new accounts and see what people have to say. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyhan Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, m7600 said: Well, there's not much to say. Essentially, it boils down to the following points: 1) You're breaking the rules. 2) A lot of other people are also breaking the rules. 3) The lobby is chaotic. Precisely Many players above a certain rating are bored or they fear imbalanced games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alre Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 I agree the lobby is indeed chaotic. we are come to the point that I feel there are more smurfs than new players. no wonder hosts only accept known players. By the way cav rushes were already powerful in A23 and we didn't have all these smurfs. rushes don't make smurfing anyway necessary, pretending to be worse than you are so you can boom more safely is simply not honest. and I still don't get why you created the smurf account with 8 wins straight. was that just to make a point or was that for fun too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freagarach Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, seeh said: you all have the same opinion a little more or less Not very weird with smurfs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyhan Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 I got lucky with trinitrophenol. I didn't pick easy wins; most of the 8 games I played were against 1400-1700 players. I thought they were fair matches but many of them resigned at the first sight of my army... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Perhaps a good way to help players judge whether a player is smurf or not is a "date created" for the account. This could be found under "User Profile Lookup" thing in lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroder Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 So people seem to agree that smurfing is kinda dumb and makes it harder to balance team games, but that sometimes you just want a new account. So how about actually enforcing the "only one account rule" everyone accepted when joining the lobby, by deleting older account from the same IP/ machine? So every player would still be able to create new accounts, but would need to accept that every account before that (including the rating) is deleted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, maroder said: So how about actually enforcing the "only one account rule" everyone accepted when joining the lobby, by deleting older account from the same IP/ machine? Little bros and sisters... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroder Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, Stan` said: Little bros and sisters. Yeah edge case will always be there. But they could just use the same account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Not sure account sharing is any better than smurfs. Besides, they might want to play together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroder Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 46 minutes ago, Stan` said: Not sure account sharing is any better than smurfs. Besides, they might want to play together... The question is what is the ratio of multiple people playing in one household vs people using smurf accounts. From what is written in this thread I'm lead to believe that one is much rarer. And I guess those people could be granted the right to do so (maybe they would have to prove that they can indeed play at the same time to further reduce the chance of it being smurfs). But manual approval of multiple accounts seems to me a better approach than just "allowing"/tolerating it by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, maroder said: And I guess those people could be granted the right to do so (maybe they would have to prove that they can indeed play at the same time to further reduce the chance of it being smurfs). But manual approval of multiple accounts seems to me a better approach than just "allowing"/tolerating it by default. 1 hour ago, Stan` said: Not sure account sharing is any better than smurfs. Besides, they might want to play together.. meh, I have been banned from the lobby already. But, @Stan` and @user1 Please don't ban my real-life friends because they are innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroder Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Yekaterina said: meh, I have been banned from the lobby already Well my suggestion would not lead to people being banned for using multiple accounts, only to them actually only being able to use one account. You could ofc still being banned for other unwanted behavior. Edited December 23, 2021 by maroder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 It looks like an IP ban because when my dad tried to log in, he was also banned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetswaveaBook Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Yekaterina said: It looks like an IP ban because when my dad tried to log in, he was also banned... Your great looks didn't save you this time! Looks like a smurf has been banned. But honestly I also know of @gator303 having troubles logging in without apparent reason. Sadly I think he has not returned since. So maybe it is not a punishment for your smurfing actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, LetswaveaBook said: Your great looks didn't save you this time! Looks like a smurf has been banned. I have just been unbanned but I won't smurf again because whoever banned my did an OP cleansing job of all of my previous accounts and methods to generate new accounts. I can't think of any way to get around it and I won't bother thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 @user1 @Stan` @Wendy22 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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