wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Are there Trac and Phab tickets for something like this? Perhaps a <MiniMapIcon>*.png</MiniMapIcon> tag in the <Identity> component? Edited October 9, 2021 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'm sure not. I made suggestion and searched for tickets related to this. Nobody takes the minimap seriously except for Nani. Btw I would like to have an extended version, called a tactical map with icons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, Lion.Kanzen said: I'm sure not. I made suggestion and searched for tickets related to this. Nobody takes the minimap seriously except for Nani. Btw I would like to have an extended version, called a tactical map with icons. I wouldn't say nobody takes the minimap seriously. There is a lot to do after all. @Langbart is who made the larger minimap patch for Delenda Est, and uses it in his own spectator mod. He does good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I wouldn't say nobody takes the minimap seriously. There is a lot to do after all. @Langbart is who made the larger minimap patch for Delenda Est, and uses it in his own spectator mod. He does good work. I'm talking about a decade, I'm not talking about so recent.(Trac) But yes, lately there is much more dynamics with the interface. I am not aware of what Lambart does, but it is full of exciting ideas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langbart Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Are there Trac and Phab tickets for something like this? Related ticket Adding icons/ pixel shapes to the minimap (16/Apr/21) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Langbart said: Related ticket Adding icons/ pixel shapes to the minimap (16/Apr/21) Thanks, Mr. Bart. It's a feature I think would benefit the base game as well as mods (I could imagine Hyrule Conquest making custom minimap icons, for sure). And with your larger minimap, the icons won't be as odious as they would be with the current smaller minimap. Edited October 9, 2021 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 @vladislavbelov said his recent refactorings might make it easier but that's still cpp changes. One has to know GLSL and ARB (Until we eventually drop it) to be able to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirceaKitsune Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 I for one love the way that looks, the minimap feels much more modern and complete this way! I also see the change being extremely useful, you can actually understand what's going on instead of having to guess from the little dots / squares currently used to represent buildings (I often confuse them with resources). For both reasons a big +1 from me, I'd be thrilled if this change made it into the next release! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 The wonder should have a star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: The wonder should have a star. In my example, the wonder is represented by the diamond, which was easier to make with pixel art. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirceaKitsune Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 Is the image from the first post from a mod, or visually edited? I feel that's by far the best design and icon style, if work was already done on it that's hopefully the graphics and implementation being worked on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, MirceaKitsune said: Is the image from the first post from a mod, or visually edited? I feel that's by far the best design and icon style, if work was already done on it that's hopefully the graphics and implementation being worked on. It's just Photoshop for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceres Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 @Gurken Khan asked for a better discernability of resources on the minimap, which I would also like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirceaKitsune Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 17 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: It's just Photoshop for now. I see. Are those icons free assets, or ones you can use if you created them? The general design is really good so I hope it can go in that direction. Doesn't sound like it has time to make it in 0.26 in any case, but hopefully at least 0.27 may have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, MirceaKitsune said: I see. Are those icons free assets, or ones you can use if you created them? The general design is really good so I hope it can go in that direction. Doesn't sound like it has time to make it in 0.26 in any case, but hopefully at least 0.27 may have it. I made them myself, yeah. Just simple 16x16 pixel art. I'll need to ask whoever decides to take the task what exactly they will need as far as icons go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Ceres said: @Gurken Khan asked for a better discernability of resources on the minimap, which I would also like. 2 things would be nice an expanded strategy map, and that the minimap can toggle between different visual options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micfild Posted October 24, 2021 Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said: would be nice an expanded strategy map Yeah, i've been thinking about that too. If it becomes too much of a hassle to put icons in the minimap, we could have an enlarged version that could be access thorugh some key (like Tab) and that would be like a snapshot of the minimap, (without units but with icons for resourses and CC. Similar to the Tab key in Age of Mythology. In the regular Minimap these are just dots, but when you expand the minimap they become icons. I don't know. I just thought it might be easier to implement than changing the minimap itself, given some of the posts i've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Micfild said: I just thought it might be easier to implement than changing the minimap itself, given some of the posts i've read. It really wouldn't be any easier, since it's the same code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 24, 2021 Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 here Nani expanded the minimap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micfild Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 11 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: It really wouldn't be any easier, since it's the same code. Sry, i think i didn't express myself correctly. What i thought was, since the minimap has to be updated regularly to represent the changes that are occuring in the map (new units, exhausted resources, etc) it seems to be harder to introduce icons in it. What i was thinking was, instead of expanding the existing minimap, we could take a picture of that moment and display it, enlarged and with icons. We wouldn't be actually enlarging the minimap itself, so it shouldn't change any of the existing code. The "enlarged" version wouldn't update itself. It's like this: Press Button to enlarge --> save state of the minimap --> enlarge the saved state --> replace dots with icons Press Button to exit "enlarge" --> discard the saved state. Again, i don't know how feasible this is, but i thought that by separating the two it would make it harder to break any existing code. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 So, I think the "temple" icon would be the Wonder. The "diamond" would be civic centers. In that image, you see an orange player civic center, a blue player civic center, and an unclaimed Gaia civic center. The gold square is metal ore, and the gray blocks are stone quarries. There will need to be some logic to prevent a bunch of overlapping stone and metal icons when the "small" mines are used on the map. So, a group of "small" metal mines are only represented by one icon; similarly a group of small stone outcrops would only be represented by one stone icon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 42 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: The gold square is metal ore The gold looks a lot like player yellow and the square isn't near as distinctive as the stone quarries; still it would be better than the status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gurken Khan said: The gold looks a lot like player yellow and the square isn't near as distinctive as the stone quarries; still it would be better than the status quo. Perhaps gold bricks, like the gray ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 @wowgetoffyourcellphone Yes, or could you maybe make a nugget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) On 30/10/2021 at 3:56 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Perhaps gold bricks, like the gray ones? The shade of yellow, the stone is also important,In fact, it is harder for me to find it than with metal. Edited February 9, 2022 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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